November 20: Reserve lists due (Rule 5)

[John Smith]

November 20: Reserve lists filed (Rule 5) for all Major and Minor League levels

 

Who do we protect from rule 5 draft? Definitely Grichuk.

 

Currently 39 on 40-man roster. Who goes?

[John Smith]

Eligible are:

18 & younger drafted in 2009 or earlier

19 & older drafted in 2010 or before

 

Some other names: Berg, Chaffee, Daniel Tillman, AJ Schugel, Kevin Johnson, Ty Kelly   

[Scott34]

The only guy I'm really worried about is Grichuk.  Berg would be my second choice.

[Second Base]

They'll of course protect Grichuk.  Berg, they've had so many opportunities already they're probably going to lose him and he's probably going to end up being a good middle reliever somewhere a la Darren O' Day (yes because they're both sidearm).

 

Tillman and Kelley I think you have to protect because of their upside, but I'm afraid the Angels won't. 

 

There is just a huge glut of players on the Angels 40-man right now that honestly don't need to be there.  Cowgill, Navarro, Field, Hester, Wall, Gutierrez, Carson.  The Angels may be at 39 players but as an organization it wouldn't hurt if they were down at 32. 

[jshep]

I do agree that there are 40-man spots that could be cleared fairly easily, but I don't know that guys like Kelley or Tillman(who, for all his upside is coming off back to back injury/severe case of walkitis-plagued 6+ ERA seasons) are guys even the Marlins or Astros would keep on their active rosters for an entire season.

 

Grichuk is an obvious call. Berg is probably worth protecting as well. Beyond that, meh.

Edited November 18, 2013 by jshep

[gotbeer]

If we lost Berg, I'd call the police to check up on AO.  

[YouthofToday]

If anything we might be adding guys via the Rule 5 draft.

[Brent Maguire]

Grichuk is the one guy I really hope they keep. Otherwise I wouldn't be too worried. 

[ettin]

If anything we might be adding guys via the Rule 5 draft.

 

This wouldn't surprise me at all YOT. Probably an easy way to add a relief arm.

[gotbeer]

If anything we might be adding guys via the Rule 5 draft.

 

 

Rule 5, if you add someone, they have to stay on your MLB roster for a full year before they become your property right?  If that's the case, I doubt that Angels add anyone.  We already have Blanton that's going to take up one spot.  I don't know if we can handle two spots.

[John Smith]

Rule 5 Sneak Peek: Deadline Looms For Clubs To Make 40-Man Additions

http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/watch-list-for-rule-5-protection/

 

"

Los Angeles Angels (39)

Extremely Likely Protections: OF Randall Grichuk.

Possible Protections: RHP A.J. Schugel, RHP Kevin Johnson.

Grichuk will likely never live down being the player taken with the pick immediately before Mike Trout, but he’s earned a spot on the 40-man roster in his own right. After a great 2012 season, Schugel would like to forget 2013. But he still has a plus fastball and an adequate changeup, and he generates swings and misses. Johnson generates plenty of groundballs with an average sinker."

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Rule 5, if you add someone, they have to stay on your MLB roster for a full year before they become your property right?  If that's the case, I doubt that Angels add anyone.  We already have Blanton that's going to take up one spot.  I don't know if we can handle two spots.

I agree that the Angels are unlikely to add any players through the Rule 5 Draft. The rules have been that way (the player added has to remain on on the  ML roster the entire season) for as long as I can remember. 

[Angel Oracle]

I'd keep Grichuk, Berg, Schugel, and possibly Kelley.

I'd take OFF of the 40 man:  Navarro, Hester, and Gutierrez.

 

That = a max of 40 players.

 

No more dumpster diving allowed on the 40 man roster!

[Angel Oracle]

And yes, I am asking again.

WTF does this org have against Berg?

How many orgs SHORT on pitching would fail to protect a guy with an ERA of 2.71 and a WHIP of 1.13 in the PCL in 2013? 

Is Dipoto anti-submariner?

 

What makes Wall and Carson so great, next to Berg?   Their stats in AAA weren't as good.

Edited November 20, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[jshep]

Grichuk added. No one else.

 

 

Alden Gonzalez ‏@Alden_Gonzalez

Others who are R5-eligible: Roberto Lopez, Matt Long, Jeremy Berg, David Carpenter, Rolando Gomez, Carlos Ramirez, Matt Oye, Mike Piazza.

 

Not David Carpenter!!!

Edited November 20, 2013 by jshep

[gotbeer]

So Roberto Lopez, Matt Long, Jeremy Berg, David Carpenter, Rolando Gomez, Carlos Ramirez, Matt Oye, Mike Piazza for Cliff Lee?

[Docwaukee]

So Roberto Lopez, Matt Long, Jeremy Berg, David Carpenter, Rolando Gomez, Carlos Ramirez, Matt Oye, Mike Piazza for Cliff Lee?

and cash from the phils.

[jshep]

So Roberto Lopez, Matt Long, Jeremy Berg, David Carpenter, Rolando Gomez, Carlos Ramirez, Matt Oye, Mike Piazza for Cliff Lee?

 

They can have Blanton too if they throw in Utley.

[Angel Oracle]

If Berg becomes another O'Day, ^$*%^$ you Dipoto!

 

I'm willing to bet that Wall and Carson don't make it past 2014 in this org.

Edited November 21, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[Second Base]

I'm not sure if I'll laugh or cry when Long, Carpenter and Berg are selected and go on to see wild success elsewhere.  As if there weren't enough people calling for Butcher's head already. 

[slcity]

I am completely baffled with this organization. What more do Berg and Long need to do to get a shot over others on the 40 man who I have seen and frankly, they are not up to either's talent. Here's hoping another team picks them up. The angels don't deserve them.