Sophmore Slump

[Chitown27Fan]

What is your opinion on this ? Is it a real thing ? Are we going to have it worse then other teams due to our need to move player to the the big club quicker then others ? Finally what is your real exspectations from guys like Neto, Ohoppe, Schanuel, Joyce ? Let us all know what you think and we can see if any of us was right at the end of the year.

[angelsnationtalk]

Those guys should perform better than their freshman year. That's the whole idea behind player development and adjusting to the league. 

If anything they needed a freshman 15....

[Angelsjunky]

Nolan Schanuel = Wade Boggs

Zach Neto = Dustin Pedroia

Logan O'Hoppe = Gary Carter

Ben Joyce = Eric Gagne

Mickey Moniak = Drug-free Josh Hamilton

Jo Adell = Hank Aaron

But in reality, Schanuel seems like a lock to hit .280+ with a high OBP. The question is whether he develops any power with that downward swing. The range seems like anything from .280/.370/.370 to .300+/.420+/.450+. So a poor man's Boggs. But he's a very unusual hitter, and is going to put up unique batting numbers. 

Neto is a poor man's Pedroia. He actually could be almost as good as Pedroia, but he's more like a .270 guy than a .300+ guy. Otherwise similar, but playing SS.

O'Hoppe is a poor man's Carter: Average plus catcher, hitting and defense. Like most such catchers, the key is health. 

Joyce is going to be one of those guys that makes some batters look silly, then walks the bases loaded and gives up a salami. 

Moniak is a platoon guy. He's weird, though. He was so hot for like a month, then absolutely terrible, then got good again. He's like the second coming of Taylor Ward, but without the walks.

We might all fully give up on Adell and then something clicks and he becomes a star. I don't know, though, he just doesn't seem to have "it." He reminds me of one of those gym guys that only works on his arms and chest and ends up being so top-heavy and lopsided, with no core strength or balance. Adell wanted to jump from toolsy prospect to superstar, yet missed the most important part in-between. It looked like he might have stepped back to make up some of that missed development, but then got hurt. He remains a wildcard: We could see more of the same, bouncing around several organizations for a few years then making a name for himself in Japan. Or he could burst out and hit .270 with 40 HR next year.

Anyhow, there's enough potential in that group plus Rengifo that with a bit of lucky, and unusual health from Trout, Rendon, Ward and Drury, and it could be a dynamic offense, even without Ohtani. Or it could be another disaster.

 

[Angelsjunky]

IMO, sophomore slumps are a mirage due to over-performing rookies coming back down to earth. They often improve from there. I don't see any of those guys fitting the category of "over-performing."

 

 

[Angels 1961]

56 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Nolan Schanuel = Wade Boggs

Zach Neto = Dustin Pedroia

Logan O'Hoppe = Gary Carter

Ben Joyce = Eric Gagne

Mickey Moniak = Drug-free Josh Hamilton

Jo Adell = Hank Aaron

But in reality, Schanuel seems like a lock to hit .280+ with a high OBP. The question is whether he develops any power with that downward swing. The range seems like anything from .280/.370/.370 to .300+/.420+/.450+. So a poor man's Boggs. But he's a very unusual hitter, and is going to put up unique batting numbers. 

Neto is a poor man's Pedroia. He actually could be almost as good as Pedroia, but he's more like a .270 guy than a .300+ guy. Otherwise similar, but playing SS.

O'Hoppe is a poor man's Carter: Average plus catcher, hitting and defense. Like most such catchers, the key is health. 

Joyce is going to be one of those guys that makes some batters look silly, then walks the bases loaded and gives up a salami. 

Moniak is a platoon guy. He's weird, though. He was so hot for like a month, then absolutely terrible, then got good again. He's like the second coming of Taylor Ward, but without the walks.

We might all fully give up on Adell and then something clicks and he becomes a star. I don't know, though, he just doesn't seem to have "it." He reminds me of one of those gym guys that only works on his arms and chest and ends up being so top-heavy and lopsided, with no core strength or balance. Adell wanted to jump from toolsy prospect to superstar, yet missed the most important part in-between. It looked like he might have stepped back to make up some of that missed development, but then got hurt. He remains a wildcard: We could see more of the same, bouncing around several organizations for a few years then making a name for himself in Japan. Or he could burst out and hit .270 with 40 HR next year.

Anyhow, there's enough potential in that group plus Rengifo that with a bit of lucky, and unusual health from Trout, Rendon, Ward and Drury, and it could be a dynamic offense, even without Ohtani. Or it could be another disaster.

 

Jo Adell is more like Justin Upton

[Stradling]

Just now, Angels 1961 said:

Jo Adell is more like Justin Upton

If he has Upton’s career then the Angels will be in a very good place. 

[Angels 1961]

In HS I avoided the sophomore slump. I just repeated my freshman year. 

[HaloBronco]

Here are my comps for the following players

Nolan Schanuel = Sean Casey

Zach Neto = Chase Utley 

Logan O'Hoppe = Lance Parrish

Ben Joyce = Todd Worrell

Mickey Moniak = Von Hayes

Jo Adell = Justin Upton (agree on that comp, if we're lucky)

[Inside Pitch]

15 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Jo Adell is more like Justin Upton

I wish.  Justin Upton was good to really good for a over a decade.

[Angels 1961]

12 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I wish.  Justin Upton was good to really good for a over a decade.

I'm big fan of his talent he needs to play everyday. I hope he gets a shot this year.

[Chitown27Fan]

If we have a young Sean Casey, Chase Utly, Justin Upton, and Todd Worell on the team the moon and stars are shining bright over the Halo.