2022 Non-tender deadline

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Friday at 5 PT.  Who do you expect the Angels to non-tender?

[Stradling]

Barria and Thaiss are the only real options to be non tendered I would think. Walsh has an injury but he also has an option. Rengifo has no options left but turned the corner, same with Suarez. Am I missing anyone?  

[angelsnationtalk]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Barria and Thaiss are the only real options to be non tendered I would think. Walsh has an injury but he also has an option. Rengifo has no options left but turned the corner, same with Suarez. Am I missing anyone?  

I really like Barria as a multi-innings reliever from the bullpen. He did good last year considering he was in a strange place with the pitching staff.

[Stradling]

28 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

I really like Barria as a multi-innings reliever from the bullpen. He did good last year considering he was in a strange place with the pitching staff.

Yea I wasn’t saying either should be non-tendered but we don’t have a lot of options when it comes to the question of who won’t get tendered a contract. 

[Angels 1961]

Brewers have 18 players headed to arbitration. Wonder if any deals from them. Sandoval also plus Canning arbitration this year.

[Jeff Fletcher]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

Barria and Thaiss are the only real options to be non tendered I would think. Walsh has an injury but he also has an option. Rengifo has no options left but turned the corner, same with Suarez. Am I missing anyone?  

It’s the deadline for tendering arbitration eligible players. Anyone else can be released or DFA’d any time. 

[T.G.]

Strad is having a bad week.

Take the next two days off,  buddy.

[Angels 1961]

18 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

It’s the deadline for tendering arbitration eligible players. Anyone else can be released or DFA’d any time. 

Jeff, you think Bellinger is a non-tender?

[BTH]

40 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

It’s the deadline for tendering arbitration eligible players. Anyone else can be released or DFA’d any time. 

But, IIRC, there is a loophole at the non-tender deadline where a team can non-tender a player, making them a free agent, and then re-sign them to a minor league deal without them needing to clear waivers.

So maybe the Angels do that with someone they want to keep on a minor league deal like Diaz, Rosenberg, or Weiss.

[BTH]

Non-tender candidates would be Barría and Walsh.

Canning might’ve been one if his injury prognosis was bad, but I think it’s an easy call to keep him now that he’s throwing again.

If they don’t like Barría stuff and potential arbitration award due to his low ERA (despite bad peripherals) they could non-tender him.

Only way I see them non-tendering Walsh is if there’s a bad prognosis on his recovery from surgery.

[DMVol]

1 minute ago, Trendon said:

Non-tender candidates would be Barría and Walsh.

Canning might’ve been one if his injury prognosis was bad, but I think it’s an easy call to keep him now that he’s throwing again.

If they don’t like Barría stuff and potential arbitration award due to his low ERA (despite bad peripherals) they could non-tender him.

Only way I see them non-tendering Walsh is if there’s a bad prognosis on his recovery from surgery.

I just can't see either being non-tendered.....though it isn't a high profile role, Barria was lights out in long relief this past year and he has been pretty good overall in his big league career, not great but pretty productive....he can also be a spot starter or the opener in a bullpen game....I think you have to give Walsh a chance to show what he can do when healthy, after what he did in 20 and 21....prognosis seemed to be pretty good but I guess the club knows more than I do....

[totdprods]

I don’t know that he’s a non-tender, but I want the Angels to get Isaiah Kiner-Falefa to add to the SS mix. Even if he just settles in as a UT IF, it’d be a much more appealing option that 4A waiver claim types.

[BTH]

15 minutes ago, DMVol said:

I just can't see either being non-tendered.....though it isn't a high profile role, Barria was lights out in long relief this past year and he has been pretty good overall in his big league career, not great but pretty productive....he can also be a spot starter or the opener in a bullpen game....I think you have to give Walsh a chance to show what he can do when healthy, after what he did in 20 and 21....prognosis seemed to be pretty good but I guess the club knows more than I do....

I agree that I don’t think either get non-tendered, but I was just outlining the scenarios in which they might.

[BTH]

12 minutes ago, totdprods said:

I don’t know that he’s a non-tender, but I want the Angels to get Isaiah Kiner-Falefa to add to the SS mix. Even if he just settles in as a UT IF, it’d be a much more appealing option that 4A waiver claim types.

He’s projected to make $6.5M in arb.

I don’t seem them paying that much for a utility infielder. If they see him as a starting SS, then I think they might pay him that.

[totdprods]

1 minute ago, Trendon said:

He’s projected to make $6.5M in arb.

I don’t seem them paying that much for a utility infielder. If they see him as a starting SS, then I think they might pay him that.

Yeah, I wouldn’t get him with the intent of him being the UT IF…just that if he was relegated to that (such as Fletcher and Rengifo pushing him down) it would be great to have him as depth, even if that’s all he was.

I like what he offers though as a starting option, especially if OF and RP are upgraded.

[Angelsfan1984]

2 hours ago, Trendon said:

He’s projected to make $6.5M in arb.

I don’t seem them paying that much for a utility infielder. If they see him as a starting SS, then I think they might pay him that.

Arent they paying that to Fletcher which he ultimately ends up being if they sign a SS?

[Angels 1961]

3 hours ago, Trendon said:

But, IIRC, there is a loophole at the non-tender deadline where a team can non-tender a player, making them a free agent, and then re-sign them to a minor league deal without them needing to clear waivers.

So maybe the Angels do that with someone they want to keep on a minor league deal like Diaz, Rosenberg, or Weiss.

Or maybe those 3 choose to be free agents and can deal with all 30 clubs.

[Angelsfan1984]

11 minutes ago, Trendon said:

Yes, so why would they pay Fletcher AND Kinfer-Falefa each ~$5M-6M to be utility infielders.

I'm agreeing with you. Not sure the disconnect lol.

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[m0nkey]

Surprised they're bringing him back

[BTH]

22 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

Surprised they're bringing him back

Probably holding onto him as a trade chip after all the free agent SS sign and a team gets desperate.

[totdprods]

I like Urshela as much if not more than Kiner-Falefa, and for similar reasons from each player, so pretty happy the way this played out.

Edited November 18, 2022 by totdprods

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[Lou]

Just now, mmc said:

 

So much for Oakland turning our crappy players into all-stars.

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