Reading Tom Sawyer to a 9 YO

[Adam]

Would you replace the "n" word or read it as Twain intended?

[Tank]

does he know the word already? do you want him to know the word if he doesn't? is he in the car when your wife uses it while driving?

[St1ck]

At 9 shouldn't they be reading it theirself? 

[Adam]

39 minutes ago, St1ck said:

At 9 shouldn't they be reading it theirself? 

He reads a lot. We read to our kids at night. It's helpful to their own development as readers to hear others read aloud. 

43 minutes ago, Tank said:

does he know the word already? do you want him to know the word if he doesn't? is he in the car when your wife uses it while driving?

He does. I read the text verbatim. I had a talk with him to avoid using that word in any context around white women in yoga pants.

2 minutes ago, cals said:

I don’t think I need to tell you what my position is on this.

It was clearly a rhetorical question

[Tank]

1 minute ago, Adam said:

He does. I read the text verbatim. I had a talk with him to avoid using that word in any context around white women in yoga pants.

i was 5 years old when the Watts riots happened. I very clearly remember my dad telling me not to use the N word around black people. It was apparently okay in his thinking to use it anywhere else, however, because he often did.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

 

[Adam]

Just now, Tank said:

i was 5 years old when the Watts riots happened. I very clearly remember my dad telling me not to use the N word around black people. It was apparently okay in his thinking to use it anywhere else, however, because he often did.

In all honesty, I'm pretty transparent with my son. He has a good grasp for what is and isn't appropriate. I hope my daughter never learns that word.

[T.G.]

What is wrong with you people?

You don't READ Tom Sawyer...

You LISTEN to it...

 

[arch stanton]

My mom read this with me almost 50 years ago and I read with my daughter. What my mom did and what I did was to explain that the word is used often and that at the time the book was written it was common language but today it’s considered insulting so as we read we’ll replace that word with “folks” so it doesn’t become too familiar to use

[St1ck]

Just don't use the hard R and you should be good. 

 

[Adam]

39 minutes ago, St1ck said:

Just don't use the hard R and you should be good. 

 

If the Angels could add one relief pitcher as good at pitching as Bill Burr is at stand up, we'd be in first place.

[St1ck]

16 minutes ago, Adam said:

If the Angels could add one relief pitcher as good at pitching as Bill Burr is at stand up, we'd be in first place.

He just passes it over to the next white guy like it was hot potato. 

[Brandon]

Sounds like you eased him into it with some Eazy E. That's what I would have done, too.

[Taylor]

Definitely a good dilemma for a bunch of white dudes to solve.

[Blarg]

On 8/23/2021 at 9:38 AM, Adam said:

Would you replace the "n" word or read it as Twain intended?

In school copies the N word is redacted. 

[Adam]

6 minutes ago, Blarg said:

In school copies the N word is redacted. 

Love censorship. So cool

[Blarg]

Over the Spring they had sensitivity course on zoom for employees that I was unable to attend because of deadlines and couldn't stop down for these 6 hours classes that were scheduled for one. You think the lessons would have sunk in but we just had to replace a shot in the opening maintitle because the "Hero" shot they chose of one of the cast members was that of an incredibly ripped black man crushing a watermellon against his chest. 

I told my co-online editor he needed to replace the same shot in his show and he asked why? Rather awkward moment telling a black man that watermellons are racist. It toook him completely by surprise and then he laughed at not knowing a racial stereotype when he color corrects one. 

[Blarg]

6 minutes ago, Adam said:

Love censorship. So cool

“The difference between the almost right word and the right word is really a large matter. ’tis the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning.”

― Mark Twain, The Wit and Wisdom of Mark Twain

 

By replacing a specifc word in his writing, editors decided bugs are less scary.  

[tdawg87]

No need to censor it. He's going to hear it anyway when you're drunk and Upton K's with the bases loaded. 

[Blarg]

6 hours ago, cals said:

Do you see the irony for you to take a position against censorship?

No. Why would that seem like a conflict? There are community standards that override individual(s) right to speech that can be considered inflammatory in a open forum. Tom Sawyer is literature, not public forum discourse. There is a delineation to be found between the two. 

[Blarg]

You didn't read my post, it's why yours were an example for delineation.  

[Don]

I first read this book with my third grade teacher who was a 60-ish year old black woman from Louisiana. One of my favorite teachers ever as a kid. That woman legit gave a shit and loved the hell out of her kids. She used the words. She also explained her youth in Louisiana to us and what those words meant in her experience. No BS about it. She explained they were words of hate, but it was part of how people talked at the time, and we were not to say that ever now. Fascinating woman really. 

[Blarg]

Sounds like a teacher and not a politician. 

[cysomeawfulpitcher]

On 8/23/2021 at 12:01 PM, True Grich said:

What is wrong with you people?

You don't READ Tom Sawyer...

You LISTEN to it...

 

I hope Peart and Watts are jamming right now.