AngelsWin Podcast - Episode 27

[Chuck]

In episode 27 Victor Rojas rejoins Chuck and Geoff to discuss Shohei Ohtani's departure, the front office's mistakes in terms of not trading the unicorn ahead of the trade deadline and not adding legit names to both the coaching staff and front office, and what moves make the most sense next. The guys shift gears and then share their Christmas traditions to wrap up #27.

 

[Chuck]

 

[halomatt]

Hahaha..."this is...this is a shit show!" 

Truer words, gents. 

Everything that was talked about was on the spot, in my opinion.  I realllllyyyyyy hope Moreno's preparing to put the team on the market again.  Hopefully, he has the stones to finish the deal this time. 

[oldguy]

I WOULD like to thank Chuck, Geoff, and Victor for all their hard work bringing us these podcasts, but this last podcast regarding the "this is where players go to die" was just both too true and too depressing.  What was even more depressing was when Geoff said that any free agent we sign probably doesn't want to win, otherwise they wouldn't come to Anaheim. 

Merry Christmas to the crew, I'm just gonna skip it this year.

[Chuck]

18 hours ago, halomatt said:

Hahaha..."this is...this is a shit show!" 

Truer words, gents. 

Everything that was talked about was on the spot, in my opinion.  I realllllyyyyyy hope Moreno's preparing to put the team on the market again.  Hopefully, he has the stones to finish the deal this time. 

 

12 hours ago, oldguy said:

I WOULD like to thank Chuck, Geoff, and Victor for all their hard work bringing us these podcasts, but this last podcast regarding the "this is where players go to die" was just both too true and too depressing.  What was even more depressing was when Geoff said that any free agent we sign probably doesn't want to win, otherwise they wouldn't come to Anaheim. 

Merry Christmas to the crew, I'm just gonna skip it this year.

Thank you @halomatt & @oldguy. We have always tried to keep it real on our shows all while trying to provide reasons for optimism as well. 

This turd was hard to polish and when Victor said he talked to people in the baseball industry and echoed what @Spirit said about players not wanting to come here in free agency, the mood took a turn for the worse. 

Thankfully we ended on a cheery note with our Christmas traditions. 

Here's hoping Perry and Arte change the perception of playing for the Angels. I'm hopeful Ron Washington plays a big part in that.

[Ron Mexico]

2 hours ago, Chuck said:

 

Thank you @halomatt & @oldguy. We have always tried to keep it real on our shows all while trying to provide reasons for optimism as well. 

This turd was hard to polish and when Victor said he talked to people in the baseball industry and echoed what @Spirit said about players not wanting to come here in free agency, the mood took a turn for the worse. 

Thankfully we ended on a cheery note with our Christmas traditions. 

Here's hoping Perry and Arte change the perception of playing for the Angels. I'm hopeful Ron Washington plays a big part in that.

What would be the reason why the players don't wanna come Chuck ?

[Chuck]

6 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

What would be the reason why the players don't wanna come Chuck ?

We go over it a little bit in this episode.

[Chuck]

If you can kindly do the needful.

[Slegnaac]

11 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

What would be the reason why the players don't wanna come Chuck ?

Players want to have a winning experience.

[HBAngel13]

Another great episode Chuck!  Keep ‘em coming!

[Swordsman78]

Good podcast.   You guys are starting to see what I saw at the end of last year.  Complete dysfunction and zero plan.  Making scapegoat changes because we "had to do something", etc.   Trout must be very disillusioned by now.   The ship is taking on water, and the fortunate guys are the ones who are no longer here.  But hey, we still got Rendon. 

Edited December 23, 2023 by Swordsman78

[Spirit]

2 hours ago, Ron Mexico said:

What would be the reason why the players don't wanna come Chuck ?

 

Every player would have their own reasons.  But you know what kind of FAs we would get? 

 

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, Swordsman78 said:

Good podcast.   You guys are starting to see what I saw at the end of last year.  Complete dysfunction and zero plan.  Making scapegoat changes because we "had to do something", etc.   Trout must be very disillusioned by now.   The ship is taking on water, and the fortunate guys are the ones who are no longer here.  But hey, we still got Rendon. 

Congrats @Chuck and @Spirit.  You and the sword see eye to eye.  

[Stradling]

Imagine if all athletes saw things through the same lens as a weak fan.  Even the worst athlete has more tenacity than a lot of fans.  

[Blarg]

4 hours ago, Swordsman78 said:

Good podcast.   You guys are starting to see what I saw at the end of last year.  Complete dysfunction and zero plan.  Making scapegoat changes because we "had to do something", etc.   Trout must be very disillusioned by now.   The ship is taking on water, and the fortunate guys are the ones who are no longer here.  But hey, we still got Rendon. 

Nevin was incompetent. 

[Blarg]

6 hours ago, Ron Mexico said:

What would be the reason why the players don't wanna come Chuck ?

The Angels are on their 4th manager in 8 years.

They have an ever changing game management plan coupled with linchpins on the roster missing too many games to be effective or stable.

No quality minor league depth ready to support the parent club.

The underpinnings of their minor league system has been derided for being one of the worst in baseball by scouts and journalists.

The owner won't invest in front office staffing that has baseball as their primary background. 

The positives? The weather. 

[Slegnaac]

46 minutes ago, Blarg said:

The Angels are on their 4th manager in 8 years.

And they will have a new manager in 2026.

[Tank]

On 12/23/2023 at 11:45 AM, Swordsman78 said:

Good podcast.   You guys are starting to see what I saw at the end of last year.

don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for something all of us saw.

[Swordsman78]

1 minute ago, Tank said:

don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for something all of us saw.

Merry Christmas Tank!   Hope your day is blessed!

[Tank]

Just now, Swordsman78 said:

Merry Christmas Tank!   Hope your day is blessed!

Merry Christmas, sword man. Enjoy the time with your family.

[Torridd]

On 12/22/2023 at 12:00 PM, Chuck said:

In episode 27 Victor Rojas rejoins Chuck and Geoff to discuss Shohei Ohtani's departure, the front office's mistakes in terms of not trading the unicorn ahead of the trade deadline and not adding legit names to both the coaching staff and front office, and what moves make the most sense next. The guys shift gears and then share their Christmas traditions to wrap up #27.

 

But if Shohei didn't want to be traded, doesn't that send a message to the club that he wanted to stay long-term?

[Torridd]

On 12/22/2023 at 3:55 PM, halomatt said:

Hahaha..."this is...this is a shit show!" 

Truer words, gents. 

Everything that was talked about was on the spot, in my opinion.  I realllllyyyyyy hope Moreno's preparing to put the team on the market again.  Hopefully, he has the stones to finish the deal this time. 

This was a good show but it definitely had a "humbug Scrooge" feel. Unfortunately, this is the reality of the club. 

[Chuck]

22 hours ago, Torridd said:

This was a good show but it definitely had a "humbug Scrooge" feel. Unfortunately, this is the reality of the club. 

Yeah, it was pretty much a debbie downer of a show if I'm being honest, but a whole bunch of truths spoken.