FBI out of control

[mtangelsfan]

Pretends to be Seattle Times

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/fake-seattle-times-news-story-created-by-fbi-provokes-outrage-at-newspaper/ar-BBbJSyH

 

They have no shame, no care for any kind of reprecussions.  They do whatever they want, whenever they want.

[nate]

Saw that earlier.  From 2007.  Amazing that they can do that without any legal challenge.

[gotbeer]

Judge should throw out the all the evidence it obtained.  

[Spirit]

Thanks Obama!!!

 

 

 

Wait ... 2007?

 

 

 

Thanks Bush!!!

[shellback]

eric holder has had an amazing run as attorney general. question for you guys: is it our apathy that allows the current out of control  governmental shennanigans to go on? i see little that can be done about it. yeah vote and all that, but the supreme court appointing a president has cured me of voting. how about it?

[mtangelsfan]

system is broken.  Two party system isn't working.  Lobbies own the government. 

 

I vote only Libertarian or if I actually know and like the person.

[nate]

Michael Mukasey was the AG in 2007

[shellback]

holder allows the same or worse bullshit to go on.

[nate]

Anyway this wasn't an AG issue.  It wasn't from a warrant.  This is a director of the FBI issue.  Robert Muller in 2007.

[mtangelsfan]

The article did say that they were assisted by the feds.  Whatever, the government has been out of control longer than the current administration has been around.  They sure haven't helped at all though.

[mtangelsfan]

You do know that the Libertarian foreign policy views are the exact opposite of your neo-con views, right?

 

LOL, what neo-con views do you think I have?

[Tank]

it used to be that law enforcement would work with entities to plant fake stories and such. if they've taken on that power on their own without working with, in this case for instance, the seattle times, then this really isn't any different than confiscating money when the deposits are less than $10k. it's the same kind of arrogance that says "we're going to do what we want because we want to, and we don't owe anyone an explanation."

[shellback]

this is alot of the problem. absolutely no accountability for the government and thier law enforcement entities.

no method of resonable redress for anyone of average means

absolutely no voice in government for 99% of individuals 

total government apathy towards functioning as a problem solving unit

 

ill stop. only because i dont see a solution or even a suggestion that i can provide.

[wopphil]

Yet, at least in California, we keep overwhelmingly electing a party that believes government should play an increasing role in peoples' lives. That same party believes the government should be allowed to exercise more and more power.

Edited October 29, 2014 by wopphil

[Tank]

wopphil for governor.

[nate]

Honestly we have mentioned it before but there really isn't a huge difference between the two parties in that regard.  One wants to subsidize the rich the other the poor and working class.  Both want to spy on us and take away our rights.

[shellback]

Honestly we have mentioned it before but there really isn't a huge difference between the two parties in that regard.  One wants to subsidize the rich the other the poor and working class.  Both want to spy on us and take away our rights.

imo the two partys are functionally the same. one party supports the supply side economics openly, while the other pretends not to but backs big business in an clandestine manner. as an example, federal subsidies for high speed rail by the current administration. purported to allow for high speed passenger or commuter rail traffic, these subsidies in the end result were nothing more than a federal government handout to big railroads for purposes of paying for thier capital maintenance costs (new 136lb rail) for years to come.

as another example obama care allows for the destitute to pay nothing for health care. increased costs are trickled down to consumers of private insurers. i could go on and on.

big banks bellied up to the federal government hog trough. next in line were the big insurance carriers.

in the end result, politicians of both partys are the same guys in different prada suits. and you're paying for it all.

[mtangelsfan]

ISIS.

 

What do you think my view is?  I am actually not for the bombing of them.

[nate]

I think he was talking about these cats.