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The Nation article poses bigly questions about Russian hack


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No one other than the perpetrators knows for sure who did it. An inside job is always a grave concern for IT security. Intelligence communities may have concluded it was the Russians who probably orchestrated the breach through non-technical intelligence (because they sure as hell didn't have anything useful in the post-incident forensics), it is hardly assured.  In a court of law it'd fall apart quicker than a soaked house of cards. That said this article is absurdly lacking anything useful besides meaningless speculation.

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8 minutes ago, Thomas said:

No one other than the perpetrators knows for sure who did it. An inside job is always a grave concern for IT security. Intelligence communities may have concluded it was the Russians who probably orchestrated the breach through non-technical intelligence (because they sure as hell didn't have anything useful in the post-incident forensics), it is hardly assured.  In a court of law it'd fall apart quicker than a soaked house of cards. That said this article is absurdly lacking anything useful besides meaningless speculation.

MAGA doesn't appreciate you brushing this off as you did.

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Just now, Make Angels Great Again said:

Ha.

Yeah, i'm assuming Thomas didn't actually read it. To call the article meaningless speculation is laughably false.

I read it completely. Please cite anything useful from the article.

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3 minutes ago, Thomas said:

I read it completely. Please cite anything useful from the article.

"Forensicator’s first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.

These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds.

Time stamps in the metadata indicate the download occurred somewhere on the East Coast of the United States—not Russia, Romania, or anywhere else outside the EDT zone.

What is the maximum achievable speed? Forensicator recently ran a test download of a comparable data volume (and using a server speed not available in 2016) 40 miles from his computer via a server 20 miles away and came up with a speed of 11.8 megabytes per second—half what the DNC operation would need were it a hack. Other investigators have built on this finding. Folden and Edward Loomis say a survey published August 3, 2016, by www.speedtest.net/reports is highly reliable and use it as their thumbnail index. It indicated that the highest average ISP speeds of first-half 2016 were achieved by Xfinity and Cox Communications. These speeds averaged 15.6 megabytes per second and 14.7 megabytes per second, respectively. Peak speeds at higher rates were recorded intermittently but still did not reach the required 22.7 megabytes per second.

“A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.”"

 

 

There's plenty more, i'm sure you can find it. Such as data being altered.

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2 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Oh the folks over at PC Master Race would have a field day. Anyone connected to a gigabit connection could have done this many times over. A botnet would have made this seem slow.

MAGA isn't going to like this post.

Furthermore, you have no solid background upon which to base your claims. 

FAKE NEWS.

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Furthermore, 22.7 MB/s works out to about 181 Mbps, according to this article that was written literally at the time this happened the average peak speed in Romania was  about 58.7 Mbps, with a small percentage of the population getting "extremely fast" speeds of 100 Mbps. And you never really get your full speed when downloading files over the internet.

http://www.dospeedtest.com/blog/romania-the-little-country-that-has-faster-internet-than-the-united-states/

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It's the same reason you can't be assured the Russians did it or not. If it was an external attack the attack would have almost assuredly come from compromised machines. A group of these machines could have been bonded together to expedite the data transfer. The opposite of a DDOS attack. (Suck instead of blow) The most likely bottleneck would have been the connection directly out of the DNC facility but the speed given is more than a reasonable upload.  (Insert sarcastic surprise the DNC didn't employ a competent Intrusion Prevention System that might have noticed a metric shit ton of data leaving the network all of a sudden) The attack would have gone through many compromised nodes until the trail would have become impossible to follow.  The conclusions from the article are laughable. Just as laughable as those that conclude for sure that the Russians did it.

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