Griffey's Corner

I guess I just do not care that much about position flexibility when they suck at all positions. I was thinking more of Marte as I type this.... but Cozart did not impress me at 3B.... I believe he is rated as one of the worst this year at 3B? I don't care about Cozart at SS because we have Simmons. As far as Kinsler he has been a stud on defense this year at 2B. 
 
If Cozart had not gotten hurt.... which also negates some of his value while we are comparing players..... if Cozart had not been injured i think he would have finished up the year with about 13 HR's.... while I think Kinsler is on pace for around 20 HR's..... 83 games played & 11 HR's. Also Kinsler has stolen 8 bases and provides speed on the basepaths. Cozart finished the year with 0 stolen bases
So in summation Kinsler was healthier this year, played much better D, more speed on the basepaths, and hits more HR's. And while as it stands now Kinsler is only barely above Cozart in BA.... I am thinking by the end of the year that Kinsler's average will be around .235. Don't get me wrong Kinsler has been crap. But I think Cozart so far has been diarrhea crap.
 
Oh and there is that moxie thing too.

No Sh.. Sherlock. Either your IQ is real low or you surround yourself all day talking to a bunch of idiots..... I am guessing the latter.
 
Question? Are you trying to say that since it was in 2017 that Eppler gets a pass for that?

But now I am starting to think maybe I am wrong about that? On the positive side I feel like help is on the way with Canning, and some of the younger players. But on the negative side everyone hits at Salt Lake, no Richards next year, Eppler keeps striking out with offensive acquisitions. The team is .500 now but honestly the way they are playing I don't think they will even finish this year at .500. 
 
Is Ohtani going to be a good hitter? Since the first 2-3 weeks he is probably hitting about .220 with 3 HR's. Can he hit MLB lefties?
 
Valbuena- Bad signing
Cozart- Bad signing
Kinsler- Bad Idea to I don't know.... he has been maybe okay?
Espinoza- Bad Idea
His track record on that side of things is very poor. Every year the team outspends the Athletics..... but here we are.
 
Mike Trout's 1st full season he hit .326 and stole 49 bases..... I want that Trout. He has never hit more than 41 HR's in a season. Maybe he never hits .340? Maybe he never hits 50 HR's a year like Griffey & Mantle, etc.
 
All the prospects that I am stoked about know one knows yet if any of them will amount to anything.
 
I still have confidence in Eppler. But this year has shaken it. The whole bullpen fiasco this winter.... I can see how some of it happened..... but still.
 
In reality the Offense sucks. And for next year we have massive holes in every area.... other than maybe average SP. We have one of the oldest rosters in baseball. Outside of Upton in LF. Trout in CF. Simmons at SS...... I see 6 holes in the Offense. Pujols will never go away. And Arte has made a crap load of money but he has proven he will spend a good amount... but never an obscene amount to fix a lot of the problems that he created.
 
We keep shedding bad contracts only to take on new bad contracts.
 
There is 3-4 components we look at. Offense= Sucks. BP= Sucks. SP= Below Average. Manager= a lot of people seem unhappy with him.
 
If we pay Trout $40,000,000 a year and get Pujols like playing in his 30's than we will be screwed for 10 years. In his 20's Pujols had one year where he hit .359 and still hit 43 HR's.
 
Are things getting worse?? Was I just kidding myself? F......!!!!!!
 
 

But now I am starting to think maybe I am wrong about that? On the positive side I feel like help is on the way with Canning, and some of the younger players. But on the negative side everyone hits at Salt Lake, no Richards next year, Eppler keeps striking out with offensive acquisitions. The team is .500 now but honestly the way they are playing I don't think they will even finish this year at .500. 
 
Is Ohtani going to be a good hitter? Since the first 2-3 weeks he is probably hitting about .220 with 3 HR's. Can he hit MLB lefties?
 
Valbuena- Bad signing
Cozart- Bad signing
Kinsler- Bad Idea to I don't know.... he has been maybe okay?
Espinoza- Bad Idea
His track record on that side of things is very poor. Every year the team outspends the Athletics..... but here we are.
 
Mike Trout's 1st full season he hit .326 and stole 49 bases..... I want that Trout. He has never hit more than 41 HR's in a season. Maybe he never hits .340? Maybe he never hits 50 HR's a year like Griffey & Mantle, etc.
 
All the prospects that I am stoked about know one knows yet if any of them will amount to anything.
 
I still have confidence in Eppler. But this year has shaken it. The whole bullpen fiasco this winter.... I can see how some of it happened..... but still.
 
In reality the Offense sucks. And for next year we have massive holes in every area.... other than maybe average SP. We have one of the oldest rosters in baseball. Outside of Upton in LF. Trout in CF. Simmons at SS...... I see 6 holes in the Offense. Pujols will never go away. And Arte has made a crap load of money but he has proven he will spend a good amount... but never an obscene amount to fix a lot of the problems that he created.
 
We keep shedding bad contracts only to take on new bad contracts.
 
There is 3-4 components we look at. Offense= Sucks. BP= Sucks. SP= Below Average. Manager= a lot of people seem unhappy with him.
 
If we pay Trout $40,000,000 a year and get Pujols like playing in his 30's than we will be screwed for 10 years. In his 20's Pujols had one year where he hit .359 and still hit 43 HR's.
 
Are things getting worse?? Was I just kidding myself? F......!!!!!!
 
 

To think that Richards will extend for cheap is laughable. Team friendly deal maybe he takes $60 million instead of $65 million over 4 years. The guy is healthy this year. Has a career ERA of 3.52 all in the AL. Has the pedigree of being a 1st round draft pick & has some of the best stuff in baseball.
 
Simple answer is trade him for a top 100 prospect. 

I am not saying what they should do. I was predicting what they will do.
 
If the Angels do not add ANY offensive firepower, from outside the organization, this winter than you can kiss Trout goodbye.
Trout staying or going is a lot like a heavily recruited high school football player. Most of those athletes do not pick a college at the end of there senior year. If the Angels plan is to be above average in 2019 if everything goes right than Trout is gone. By 2020 it will be too late.... if it's not already.
 
To assume that any of these prospects are going to come in and be good just because they played well at Salt Lake is not a great plan. The Angels need a LOT of offense. If they are basing next year on Thaiss, or Herm, or Blash than that is not a great plan.
 
Who knows if Marsh or Adell will be ready in 2020.... or if they ever will be ready. Most prospects do not amount to anything at all.
 
Don't get me wrong I love prospects. But if the Angels plan is to slowly & gradually bring in unproven talent than kiss Trout goodbye.
 
Trout is a winner and I am pretty sure he is getting tired of this losing crap.

Kole hitting .170 is good enough????

The Offense and the RP are both bad. I would say the Offense needs more help for 6 reasons.....
 
1. Everyone on Offense is healthy.... and this is what they are doing.
 
2. RP is volatile.... we can all agree on that.... next year they might be due to be better.
 
3. Some of the RP are injured and will be coming back at some point. 
 
4. A lot of the players on Offense there contracts are running out sooner. Valbuena, Kinsler, Trout, Calhoun.
 
5. I think the Angels brass feels more comfortable with the high minors RP than they do on solutions for Offense.
 
6. I think the Offense has been more offensive than the RP.

If you did not read the post than you have no business commenting on the post.

His .168 Batting Average and negative WAR will be missed.

His .168 Batting Average and negative WAR will be missed.

His .168 Batting Average and negative WAR will be missed.

If you guys want to act like jerks that's cool.... but at least bring some intelligence to the conversation. Tomko was nothing. The Mariners did not get a lot in return since Griffey would only consider a trade to the Reds. 
 
The point I was making is that one player in baseball does not define a team. With Mike trout in his 20's the Angels have never won a playoff game. What makes you think Trout will be better in his 30's. You guys whine & cry like a bunch of girls on here about Pujols imagine Trout getting paid twice as much. 
 
It's more about freeing up $40,000,000 in payroll than any number of prospects that come back to the Angels..... I would rather have 4 Simmons on the team & 2 Sean Newcomb than 1 Simmons & 1 Trout.
 
As I said above it's a bad combination to go through in life to be an ass & be stupid.
 
You think your funny when you post pictures because the sad thing is you have nothing intelligent to say. 

The bullpen has been bad. The bullpen has been terrible. The bullpen has sucked. 
 
The offense has sucked too. This thread is about the bullpen so that is probably why people are on here posting about the bullpen. There is lot's of other threads on angelswin talking about how crappy the offense is and certain individual offensive performances.
 
I have no doubt that certain members will come to your rescue. And I already understand that the Angels can do no wrong in your eyes. But seriously the bullpen has sucked.
 
 

Great post. 100% agree with the 2nd paragraph.

The bullpen has been bad. The bullpen has been terrible. The bullpen has sucked. 
 
The offense has sucked too. This thread is about the bullpen so that is probably why people are on here posting about the bullpen. There is lot's of other threads on angelswin talking about how crappy the offense is and certain individual offensive performances.
 
I have no doubt that certain members will come to your rescue. And I already understand that the Angels can do no wrong in your eyes. But seriously the bullpen has sucked.
 
 

I would be thrilled if the Angels were to be seller's.... instead of buyer's for example Greinke for Segura who is currently hitting .334 playing middle infield for the Mariners.
If we could get a decent return for Richards and get rid of some of the crappy contracts such as Valbuena or Calhoun or Cozart that would be awesome. Free up money and play the young guys and make a huge run in 2019.
 
Although if we can do a Upton or Simmons trade that would be cool.

I would be thrilled if the Angels were to be seller's.... instead of buyer's for example Greinke for Segura who is currently hitting .334 playing middle infield for the Mariners.
If we could get a decent return for Richards and get rid of some of the crappy contracts such as Valbuena or Calhoun or Cozart that would be awesome. Free up money and play the young guys and make a huge run in 2019.
 
Although if we can do a Upton or Simmons trade that would be cool.

I would be thrilled if the Angels were to be seller's.... instead of buyer's for example Greinke for Segura who is currently hitting .334 playing middle infield for the Mariners.
If we could get a decent return for Richards and get rid of some of the crappy contracts such as Valbuena or Calhoun or Cozart that would be awesome. Free up money and play the young guys and make a huge run in 2019.
 
Although if we can do a Upton or Simmons trade that would be cool.

I would be thrilled if the Angels were to be seller's.... instead of buyer's for example Greinke for Segura who is currently hitting .334 playing middle infield for the Mariners.
If we could get a decent return for Richards and get rid of some of the crappy contracts such as Valbuena or Calhoun or Cozart that would be awesome. Free up money and play the young guys and make a huge run in 2019.
 
Although if we can do a Upton or Simmons trade that would be cool.

It looks like a lot of fun. That is awesome of you to invite members from here.

It's funny but Valbuena has been performing in 2018 exactly like his whole career.  His lifetime batting average is .227. He has hit .216 this year. 2 extra seeing eye singles. Over his career he has averaged 3 HR's every 100 at bats.... same thing he is doing this year. As far as Eppler & company are concerned he is meeting expectations. He is exactly who they thought he was. Why would they cut him for that?
 
Now why he was ever signed for $8 million a year in the first place.... I will never know???
 
 

It looks like a lot of fun. That is awesome of you to invite members from here.

Lately I have been reading & not posting. There is 5-7 members on here that I can only handle in small doses. But from the reading I have done it seems like a lot of members are unhappy with this season. Even with all the injuries they are on pace for 86-76 season. Last year they only won 80. My prediction of 90-72 may not come to fruition. But if the team goes 90-72 misses the playoffs.... it does mean the Mariners get in..... but let's say they lose in the WC game. Are people happy? Chime in if you feel like it. I am curious if the 13-3 start raised the bar.
 
My vote is I would be happy.

It looks like a lot of fun. That is awesome of you to invite members from here.