mulwin444

10 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I didn't think the Astros could look any worse.  I was wrong.   

Crane ... Holy shit...

Yeah, they should have just not done anything at this point.  

10 minutes ago, yk9001 said:

Trout isn't capable of being a vocal superstar, so i wouldn't expect it.  It wouldn't be hard for even Trout to do more than nothing.

This would be a perfect example of him taking an active leadership role in the sport he plays.  It would be a perfect time to create any kind of national persona except "best player to never win a playoff game".  Or "Eagles season ticket holder".

 

I'm sorry he isn't what you want him to be.

I guess we'll just have to settle for having the acknowledged "best player in baseball" on our team and hope we aren't docked wins for him not being more outspoken and tiresome.

10 hours ago, calscuf said:

We must consult with audidriver!

I see you are a man of culture as well...

Was Arte an assbirth?

Just now, Chuckster70 said:

Much respect. Go get em, Heaney. 

 

 

(Stassi pretends to look busy in another part of the clubhouse..."Now where did I put that fungo?")

5 minutes ago, SoPas Angel said:

Fletcher has pointed out more than once that if ever there was an opportunity to manipulate service time, it was with Ohtani two years ago. No one would have blinked if he had started the season in AAA.

While I don't expect Adell to be ready yet, if he hits "15 homers" in ST and doesn't break camp with the team, I will be disgusted. 

They could have done it with Trout as well...the only reason he started 2012 late with the team was due to illness:

"Mike Trout showed up in spring training in 2012 with a mysterious illness. He had lost 15 pounds and was too weak to play in the initial Cactus League games. The Angels described the illness as a type of flu bug or virus. Trout was taking medication although doctors could not pinpoint the exact condition, after ruling out a thyroid disorder or Valley Fever. The result was that his chances of making the big league team shrank to nothing, and he was assigned to the AAA Salt Lake Bees to start the season."

https://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Mike_Trout 

9 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Huh.  I never heard him say that.  Well that’s interesting.  My feedback is they are dumb to not play the game.  An extra year versus a few weeks?  That’s a bad deal for the team and the fans.

Okay

5 minutes ago, nate said:

Angels won't bring him up until May to avoid starting the clock early on him.

Fletcher has said on numerous occasions that the Angels don't try to manipulate service time...

Man, that's disappointing.  What he really needs to say is:

"Phew, I am desperate for starting pitching!  Des-per-ate!  I'm working those phones and talking to anyone who will listen 'Have you seen my rotation?! I needs help, yo! Won't someone help a man out?!' I've got my knee pads on and I am ready and am willing to do what it takes."

It's professional and it shows he's really, really trying...

Really..

3/13/2020 at 5:32 PM EST

25 minutes ago, failos said:

oh look it's @Stradling, @Lou, and @mulwin444

This is me losing my mind (...)

14 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

How to say nothing in 52 words.

Well, considering Rosenthal, Heyman, Passan, etc have been putting words in the Angels' mouth the past couple of weeks the Angels front office apparently had little left they needed to say.

3 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

 I'm just saying I can at least understand people being upset about this given what little info is out there.   

Yeah, agreed, it sucks...I'd have love to have had Stripling and Pederson on this team, especially with 3 years of control for Stripling

Either way, it tells me Eppler is still working and trying to find out-of-the-box ways to improve the starting pitching so I don't think we are done.

22 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Meh..  I dont blame anyone for having an emotional reaction to news that Arte may have had an emotional reaction.  But, I am curious to see how anyone would think that this year's pitching staff projects to give up 875 runs ...   The math doesn't jive for me.

I just have trouble getting too emotional about something I have very little info about other than we heard something vague about Arte "getting emotional".

Seems to me there was a deal in place, Boston was caught off guard by their fans extremely negative reaction, their asses puckered so they started "hmm"-ing about some medical records as the reason for the delay while going back to the Dodgers saying "we need more", so Dodgers go back to the Angels and say "agreed to terms have changed, we now need ____", and then Arte said "eat a dick"

Should he have said "eat a dick" and just agreed to the changed terms?  Don't have an opinion until I know the terms.  I just know the people that usually like being angry at Arte are now enjoying their moment being angry at Arte...so, good for them.

I'm going to go with "Eppler will continue to try to improve the team up until 07/31/2020".

Just now, Inside Pitch said:

And that makes them worse how?   

Because Arte is bad...

15 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

Is this the same Skaggs that you said it would stupid to sell high on after his solid first half in 2018?

 

Maybe?  In 2018, he wasn't dead so I was likely giving him the benefit of the doubt...

3 minutes ago, nate said:

Tehran is the only improvement on that list.

Factor for a 6 man rotation when Ohtani comes back, no more Skaggs and other than Tehran and Bundy a bunch of guys that are always injured.

Skaggs accounted for only 79 innings last season and averaged less than 100.0 IP per season for the last 4 seasons...yeah, tough to replace that.

1 minute ago, nate said:

Cool, so the Angels can lose games 10-5 instead of 10-4

So, with the additions of Teheran, Bundy, and Andriese our pitching didn't improve?  Weird...

Just now, nate said:

It is pretty clear that Arte is the reason the deal died.

The off season is a failure because the pitching is potentially the worst in baseball, if not very close to.

Yeah, the pitching is none of that but do go on....

57 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

This entire clusterf*ck of a trade summed up this failed offseason perfectly.

Arte’s emotions continue to handcuff this organization. 

Hopefully Eppler can pull a miracle out of his ass and get something else done but at this point I highly doubt it. Joc and Stripling would’ve been very nice additions to this roster. A real shame this didn’t go down as planned. 

"Failed offseason" haha

Also find it a bit silly when I see comments like "why aren't the Angels/Arte/Eppler/the front office saying something about the trade?" when, you know, what if they didn't leak anything about the trade, would have preferred they kept it under wraps but now have this nonsense distraction.  Eppler seems to work in stealth and, while you give up some control when your plan involves 4 teams, two of which are the biggest in baseball in terms of fish wrap hype, I don't think it was his style or goal to have it out in the wild.  Or, to put it another way, why address anything when you can just shrug and say, "Ya got me, ask the Dodgers".

1 minute ago, Angels_Fan said:

All the Angels had to do was give up Rengifo (who is very much redundant).

If that's ALL they had to do, then it would've been done...

Just now, Stradling said:

If indeed this deal has fallen apart my guess is this is what happened.

The Dodgers ended up giving up more than they were going to in the original deal, so they asked the Angels to alter the deal, and they refused to give up more.  

Yeah, pretty likely...

Dodgers-Red Sox terms change...so do Angels-Dodgers terms, likely less favorable for the Angels.

I'll sure it will leak at some point.

Just now, calscuf said:

We are reading tweets from people who might know!

Ah, so speculation and anger at Arte and Eppler...for reasons.  Seems about right...