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I completely disagree with you chuck.

Not caring about the draft picks is what has plunged this team into high payroll/low performance results.
The Angels need to step away from the mortgage the future practices since they have already blown several drafts in a row. Ulbaldo is nottgat player that a team with a weak minor leagues should be giving up a midfle pick in the first round. He just doesn't have the stable resume.
The Angels need to give Vargas a qualifying offer and quit fing around with worrying if he accepts. If he does you have at least a one year rental at the league going price. You may be able to get a lower overall number with a three year deal or if he bolts you have a draft pick instead of giving him away for free.
F no for dealing away too much talent for Price and having 2 years of top arb money or even more if theytry a contract extension. Giving up Sappington will bite the Angels ass as much as Corbin or Skaggs. Price will bolt to the Yankees and we will be out two players still under club control and a young arm that is probably going to be MLB ready in two seasons.
Stop the madness.

I wouldn't trust the defensive WAR metrics as much as I'd trust your eye IP.  Yeah, Green was an awful defensive 2B but he also showed that he can hit at the major league level.  .280 with gap power should be what he does.  The Angels also have some amazing infield instructors in Alfredo Griffin, Gary Disarcina and now Omar Vizquel.
 
Green's actually quite the athlete.  If he'd be able to grow into a passable defensive 2B or 3B anywhere you'd think it'd be here.  In all fairness, this is the organization that helped make Segura and Amarista into passable shortstops when their skill sets dictated they'd be 2B.  We've seen Erick Aybar win a gold glove, Kendrick grow into an average or above average defensive 2B, Callaspo grow into a good defensive 3B, Luis Jimenez has made huge strides at 3B over the past couple years and Mark Trumbo become a decent defensive 1B when he was downright awful in the minors.    

There really is no stopping the dodgers if they get him

Calhoun's value is at the highest it'll ever be right now. It probably makes sense to trade him if they can get a team to bite.

Wouldn't mind talking to the Dodgers about
Fife, Beckett, Billingsly

NFL lineman aren't all fat. But baseball players are all David Wells.

Well done.

I'm expecting 5/90 to sign him

And they succeed.
 
One can only hope.

People seriously don't give a **** about this farm system. It's the worst in baseball and will continue to be if they keep throwing away draft picks.
Throwing away picks and having horrible drafts every year is not how you build a competitive team.
 
The Angels need to do whatever it takes to get tanaka.

I think you guys are forgetting how dominating pitching was this year.
 
lincecum's 4.37 ERA in the NL this year is probably 4th or 5th starter quality.
 
The Angels would have to give up a draft pick for that? give me a break.

Well I think full range of motion is very important. How about just don't be embarrassed if you have to put up less weight because of your long arms. Start very low and work your way up.

I would definitely trade for him if he could be had for cheap. I think 17 million a year is a pretty good deal for him considering the going rate for players right now.
 
Hell hunter pence will be making more per year than braun.

Why does OC always get lumped in together? Santa Ana and Laguna Niguel might as well be on different continents. Are they aware the Orange County isn't a city? Should be kind of different comparing Westminster and Rancho Santa Margarita. 

Enough with this load of dung..   Bill Stoneman inherited a WORSE situation.  The big difference is he had a plan, he stuck to it and the players he added actually made the team better.  
 
Bil Stoneman didn't get to sign big name FA's his first few years on the job, he had to find role players that fit into his bigger picture.  He plucked a weak armed 2B with OBP skills off the discard pile and they made him into a starting MLB shortstop.  He traded Kimera Bartee for a speedy OFer with a glove that the team then used at every possible position and became the best lead-off hitter the team had seen since Tony Phillps.  He built a bullpen out of baling wire and tape, plucking guys with low walk rates and HR/9 rates off of waivers and independent leagues and put together one of the best bullpen units in baseball over a 5 year period.  Bill Stoneman got the Angels a young DH with a 30 HR season under his belt for Brian freaking Cooper.  He found a useful undervalued 2B and milked four seasons out of him at 1B.  He invested HEAVILY in the scouting department and crafted an international scouting department that had been dormant and went dormant once again after he was gone.  
 
Jerry Dipoto inherited a flawed team no doubt, but he's fallen well short of finding the sort of value that Stoneman was able to acquire for next to nothing -- this despite being spoken of as one of the more saber minded GM types in MLB.
 
I don't blame Dipoto for the state of the farm system even if he did trade away bits and pieces.  I blame him directly for signing two RPs who couldn't even throw a baseball and calling the bullpen done.  I blame him for taking a perfectly serviceable RP with 4 years of service time and trading him for a 4th year arbitration eligible pitcher who was A - oft injured and B - a 5 inning pitcher when he WAS healthy.  Blanton was an experiment that went wrong, fine..  Give him a mulligan on that if you want but other than Frieri, and possibly Schuck who is nothing more than a 4th OFer you can't really point to anything he's done as having made the team better and Frieri came at a cost significantly higher than anything Bill Stoneman did.  Edit: CJ has been what they expected.
 
Jerry Dipoto has become the Anti-Bill Bavasi in the sense that where Bavasi seemed to have people defend him because of the perception that Disney didn't allow him to spend, Dipoto gets a free pass cause all the mistakes are pawned off on a spend happy owner who is throwing money away.  Like Bavasi, JD is liked for his willingness to engage the press and fan base, they both said a lot of things that people wanted to hear and did a great job of painting a pretty picture but neither one of them seem capable of putting together a team who's skills meshed well.  Bill Stoneman was boring, tight lipped and not very personable but also knew how to build a team.  I still think Dipoto could do that -- but I'm finding it harder to just ignore what he HAS and hasn't done.  
 
For me, it's put up or shut up time.  This is his team now, whether or not he was the reason for Pujols and Hamilton, I really don't care, there are enough GOOD pieces he inherited in place for him to fill the gaps.  I'd like to see some semblance of a backbone out of JD, be that telling Arte he needs to accept going over the luxury cap or telling him he needs to fire MS and butt out of the baseball decisions.  But he needs to actually man up and become the final word on baseball matters -- you know, like he said he was in those interviews two years ago.

I think lack of depth, poor play, curious management, injuries, bad trades and all around suckitude are what sunk the Angels in 2013. 
 
I think there is enough blame to go all around.  Players, coaching staff, management and ownership all need to look in the mirror and understand that they pretty much sucked.

I think this might be the worst post I've seen all year.

.297/.405/.543 slash line, 152 wRC+, .407 wOBA and fantastic defender at many positions that year. 
 
Yeah there's a very good argument for him being the best American League player that year. He was an absolute beast that year. 

woa shut your mouth you douchebag. You're not a real fan like me!

woa shut your mouth you douchebag. You're not a real fan like me!

What I don't get is why people saying they aren't superfans are telling people there's a stupid or douchebaggery way to follow a team

Your superior fan shtick is getting old stradling.

B.S. Tinker and Evers hated each, didn't speak for several years, but were the best DP combo of their era....Bonds and Kent hated each other...everybody who played with Bonds hated him....good players have chemistry because they're good...
We were bad because DiPoto made bade decisions....if he keeps Torii and Santana, stays away from Blanton, Hanson, Madsen and Burnette, we're s lot better...Hamilton and Pujols were bad Arte decisions...

Your superior fan shtick is getting old stradling.