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Why would Marsh not be playing center? Just piss poor decision making

Stroman and Stassi
Stroman is the last FA option that would make our starting rotation respectable.

$43M a year for a guy's age 37-39 years? No thanks. Scherzer is great, but I'd be a bit worried about that "dead arm."
Also, I'd rather have Gausman, Ray, or Stroman for half as much per year.

Have a better record than the Angels.
it pisses me off but it is a reality

Nothing but risks being taken this off-season by a team that needs sure things. Good lord

I understand the upside to this move, but 21 million for a guy who has thrown 2 innings the last 2 seasons combined and had a 4.24 ERA in 2019 seems very steep to me. He hasn’t been a great pitcher since 2018. Hope he can find that form

I understand the upside to this move, but 21 million for a guy who has thrown 2 innings the last 2 seasons combined and had a 4.24 ERA in 2019 seems very steep to me. He hasn’t been a great pitcher since 2018. Hope he can find that form

Not at all. I could see him in the Majors late next year and definitely see him there to start 2023. He’s on the Detmers track

Not at all. I could see him in the Majors late next year and definitely see him there to start 2023. He’s on the Detmers track

Gonna need a lot more than that...
Warren, Wantz, Marte should be seen as a group that fills maybe one or two spots in the bullpen at this stage in their careers, not a full-season role. Too early still. That should be seen as three names for one spot, maybe two. Bachman as well, but his prospect status might give him a leg up and his own spot if production merits it. 
I'd build it like:
Closer: hopefully Iglesias Set-up 1: Need to try and lock in one more good high-lev arm, either by trade or FA. I guess Bachman could ascend here quickly. Set-up 2: ???? Mayers??? shit. Steady vet RP: FA/trade, though Mayers might fill this role if we can get another ahead of him. LHRP: Quijada? Naughton? for now. Not a necessity either, could be lumped in to rotation of next role below. Could also short-term someone like Suarez or Rodriguez if there's another lefty in the pen. Rotating live arms (1 or 2): Warren, Wantz, Marte, maybe Ortega, Higgins, Junk, Pina, Yan Long-relief: a Noe/Guerra/Slegers-type. Not ideal, but could be Barria, Suarez, Bachman, or CRod depending on the complexion of the team - less of a mop-up, more of a tandem-SP/mult-inning RP role. We have sooo many R5 eligible relievers coming up this winter, I'd hope they actually package one or two of them together for a more legitimate MLB arm, maybe someone with a couple years of control starting to go into arbitration for a frugal team like Miami, Baltimore, Pittsburgh...a team that'd happily trade off production now for more payroll/roster flexibility.

Oh well. There has never been a season in my adult life in which I have cared less about the team. 

He's a me-me player. Was too ignorant to have a different approach at the plate once teams started shifting on him. Just another garbage player who suited up for the Angels and was a big reason why the Trout era was wasted in the 2010s. 

Like how we never hear about Dipoto anymore? 

That delivery is funky. A little Johnny Cueto vibe

I know this isn't necessarily the be all end all but the Giants have extremely smart people running their organization right now. I'm guessing they wouldn't have cut him if he was good

I know this isn't necessarily the be all end all but the Giants have extremely smart people running their organization right now. I'm guessing they wouldn't have cut him if he was good

The Giants just picked up Shoemaker and Chatwood, dropped this guy. Some might call that a red flag.

Massive upgrade to Sutton, who was just flat out terrible imo. 

That delivery is funky. A little Johnny Cueto vibe

Massive upgrade to Sutton, who was just flat out terrible imo. 

That delivery is funky. A little Johnny Cueto vibe

Massive upgrade to Sutton, who was just flat out terrible imo. 

Adell is battling up there. He was an automatic strikeout a year ago. Not a finished product but a huge improvement is nice to see

In your opinion....is it anything wrong finding out during a failed season?

Adell is battling up there. He was an automatic strikeout a year ago. Not a finished product but a huge improvement is nice to see