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one demerit, chuck.
 
what other response could you have given? you're almost as plugged into the angels inner workings as roger lodge.

...and water is wet.

one demerit, chuck.
 
what other response could you have given? you're almost as plugged into the angels inner workings as roger lodge.

...and water is wet.

...and water is wet.

one demerit, chuck.
 
what other response could you have given? you're almost as plugged into the angels inner workings as roger lodge.

i mean this with all seriousness, even absolving dipoto of the blame, but has there ever been a worse crop of free agent acquisitions? i know there's been more expensive and, individually, others have performed worse, but the angels signed four pitchers and none of them helped the angels.

we need some santiago go dancers in the stadium.
 
70's night, when hector pitches, they will come.

i mean this with all seriousness, even absolving dipoto of the blame, but has there ever been a worse crop of free agent acquisitions? i know there's been more expensive and, individually, others have performed worse, but the angels signed four pitchers and none of them helped the angels.

argh, misleading title. i can live with a report from a writer or something, but a poster's imagination should have something in the title.

argh, misleading title. i can live with a report from a writer or something, but a poster's imagination should have something in the title.

argh, misleading title. i can live with a report from a writer or something, but a poster's imagination should have something in the title.

argh, misleading title. i can live with a report from a writer or something, but a poster's imagination should have something in the title.

argh, misleading title. i can live with a report from a writer or something, but a poster's imagination should have something in the title.

i pretty much disagree with almost everyone in this thread. harper is great and age does matter when he's so young. ellsbury is also a great player, i'm not sure how he can be overrated.
 
i'd say someone like justin upton is probably my vote, only because he fits the bill of being highly regarded, but only really delivering in hot outbursts. however, i'd still like him on the angels.

i would, as long as it was the contract and all. i think the angels would too, but would never publicly say that, understandably.

i'm gonna say no because there are baseball writers everywhere and when one of them saw him pitching from the far right side of the rubber, then one of them probably would have asked about it, maybe write about it, and so on.
 
edit: i'm gonna add that if you are in the midst of a 2-14, 6.04 era season, then maybe go ahead and work on some new things in season. you know, get crazy.

it's going to be nobody, but if it's anybody, then somebody's getting fired.

i'm gonna say no because there are baseball writers everywhere and when one of them saw him pitching from the far right side of the rubber, then one of them probably would have asked about it, maybe write about it, and so on.
 
edit: i'm gonna add that if you are in the midst of a 2-14, 6.04 era season, then maybe go ahead and work on some new things in season. you know, get crazy.

i'll start knocking on weaver when his results are no longer there after consecutive seasons, but until then homeboy gets the benefit of any doubt.
 
when it comes to pitching it's all about results, if the team wins when he pitches, then i'm cool.

i suppose without trying to look anything up, as i don't know what stats would be available to measure a manager metrically, i'll go with low payroll team, toughest division most years, and wins. maddon has seemed to get the most out of a weaker team against the biggest powerhouses in mlb. 
 
once again, i don't think maddon is a god, but he's doing more with less. that would also explain his "constant" lineup changes that some are wanting to use as evidence against him. he's got one legit middle of the order bat and that's longoria. 

i don't accept the characterization of absolutes. i don't live within an absolute mentality.
 
i don't think mike is a bad manager. i do think he has grown lazy with the angels and doesn't get his coaches and his players properly prepared and focused on a single goal. i would have fired mike after last season and probably the season before, although that's debatable. 
 
joe maddon is not a god, and i don't hold him to that standard. i am aware that he has embraced the front office strategies and is an innovative manager. he innovates out of necessity because he manages the low payroll rays in the AL east. 
 
at this point in their respective careers, maddon is a far superior manager. having said all of that, emotionally i would love for mike to win another title with the angels, but intellectually i don't believe he will. the duality of intellectual reality vs. emotional want is neither lost nor wasted on a sports fan's psyche.
 
now eric or someone can reply with how i'm a chicken little, or pessimistic, etc.

this conversation is circuitous. eric is never going to get what you guys are trying to say because he thinks it's "negative", you're just being "eyores", etc. let it go and move on. we built absolutely no contingency plan for our starting staff, it doesn't matter that we actually should have signed three more guys with major league success of some variety.
 
at the end of the season, if it hasn't worked out, then people are going to get fired and it will be well deserved.

if the angels give up their 1st round pick for anybody, much less to reacquire a player one year after letting him leave due to ineffectiveness, then i will personally go up to anaheim and find dipoto. i'm not saying what i'd do, but he wouldn't be happy to see me and neither would his rectum.
 
edit: what the f* is wrong with you people that you even want to acquire santana, much less give up a first round pick?  have we forgotten how much he sucked? 50-60 million?

isn't that the opposite of what he asked? he's talking about the next eight.