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I agree, Jason - but there's enough of a chance (say, 10%?) that its worth mentioning.
 
With 20 games left, Trout's at .338. 20 games ago he was at .330, so that's an 8-point gain.
 
The Tigers have 19 games left and Cabrera's at .353. 19 games ago he was at .360, so that's a 7-point loss.
 
.338 + .008 = .346
 
.353 - .007 = .346
 
Unlikely - probably very unlikely - but possible.

I think AJ was the first to say exactly what I was looking for in this thread.  Is Trumbo more valuable than Calhoun?  Because for measuring purposes, Kole Calhoun would effectively be considered his replacement given that he plays 1B and the corner OF.  You also have to consider the circumstances.  How valuable are HR's to this team vs. OBP?  
 
If every player had a high OBP but only moderate power, then Calhoun would hold practically no value.  Conversely, if every player on the team was a power hitter with a low OBP then Trumbo would hold little value.  So how do these guys measure up with comparison to their team?  Well in terms of power, the Angels have Hamilton, Pujols and Trout.  In terms of OBP the Angels have Trout and Iannetta.
 
BA - Calhoun would likely hit 20-30 points higher in any given season.
OBP - Calhoun's OBP would be 50 points higher on average. 
HR's - Trumbo should hit 20 more HR's yearly.
SB - Calhoun should take 5-10 extra bases a year. 
Defense - Despite the results lately, Calhoun is a better defender in the OF than Trumbo while Trumbo's better at 1B. 
 
Finally, there are two more aspects to consider.  1-If Trumbo's the better defender at 1B, do we have a replacement?  Yes, Pujols or Calhoun.  2- Monetary consideration.  Calhoun will be playing for the league minimum for another two years.  Over the next two years, you can expect Trumbo to earn at least 7 million.  
 
In conclusion, I think Calhoun is a slightly more valuable player given the climate of the Angels and his skill set. Not only does he contribute in more aspects, the idea that Trumbo's DH and backup corner OF limits his value on a team that has Pujols and Hamilton, both of whom will need considerable time at DH. 

As far as player development goes, I think I like Tim Bogar the best of all the Angels coaches and scouts.  If he stays at AA, your idea of keeping Grichuk where he is may make more sense from that standpoint, but we'll see.  I'm not alone is believing major shake ups are on the way this winter.  Who knows, Bogar himself may end up being the Angels manager in 2014. 

I think AJ was the first to say exactly what I was looking for in this thread.  Is Trumbo more valuable than Calhoun?  Because for measuring purposes, Kole Calhoun would effectively be considered his replacement given that he plays 1B and the corner OF.  You also have to consider the circumstances.  How valuable are HR's to this team vs. OBP?  
 
If every player had a high OBP but only moderate power, then Calhoun would hold practically no value.  Conversely, if every player on the team was a power hitter with a low OBP then Trumbo would hold little value.  So how do these guys measure up with comparison to their team?  Well in terms of power, the Angels have Hamilton, Pujols and Trout.  In terms of OBP the Angels have Trout and Iannetta.
 
BA - Calhoun would likely hit 20-30 points higher in any given season.
OBP - Calhoun's OBP would be 50 points higher on average. 
HR's - Trumbo should hit 20 more HR's yearly.
SB - Calhoun should take 5-10 extra bases a year. 
Defense - Despite the results lately, Calhoun is a better defender in the OF than Trumbo while Trumbo's better at 1B. 
 
Finally, there are two more aspects to consider.  1-If Trumbo's the better defender at 1B, do we have a replacement?  Yes, Pujols or Calhoun.  2- Monetary consideration.  Calhoun will be playing for the league minimum for another two years.  Over the next two years, you can expect Trumbo to earn at least 7 million.  
 
In conclusion, I think Calhoun is a slightly more valuable player given the climate of the Angels and his skill set. Not only does he contribute in more aspects, the idea that Trumbo's DH and backup corner OF limits his value on a team that has Pujols and Hamilton, both of whom will need considerable time at DH. 

Define "Rebound". 
 
If by rebound, do I think Pujols will play more games in 2014 and thus put up better numbers by virtue of getting into more of a groove, yes.  Will Pujols be as good as he was before?  No.  But .270 40 DB 25 HR's would be a rebound of sorts.
 
At the same time, Hamilton's got nowhere to go but up.  His pitch recognition this year is so bad it doesn't seem like the type he'll ever recover from. But he'll have to be a little better, with perhaps a little less pressure.  .250 and 25 HR's would also be a rebound.  
 
I think Pujols and Hamilton will both be about as valuable as I expect Kole Calhoun to be next year.  All will be solid players.  But only Calhoun will be worth his paycheck. 

I think AJ was the first to say exactly what I was looking for in this thread.  Is Trumbo more valuable than Calhoun?  Because for measuring purposes, Kole Calhoun would effectively be considered his replacement given that he plays 1B and the corner OF.  You also have to consider the circumstances.  How valuable are HR's to this team vs. OBP?  
 
If every player had a high OBP but only moderate power, then Calhoun would hold practically no value.  Conversely, if every player on the team was a power hitter with a low OBP then Trumbo would hold little value.  So how do these guys measure up with comparison to their team?  Well in terms of power, the Angels have Hamilton, Pujols and Trout.  In terms of OBP the Angels have Trout and Iannetta.
 
BA - Calhoun would likely hit 20-30 points higher in any given season.
OBP - Calhoun's OBP would be 50 points higher on average. 
HR's - Trumbo should hit 20 more HR's yearly.
SB - Calhoun should take 5-10 extra bases a year. 
Defense - Despite the results lately, Calhoun is a better defender in the OF than Trumbo while Trumbo's better at 1B. 
 
Finally, there are two more aspects to consider.  1-If Trumbo's the better defender at 1B, do we have a replacement?  Yes, Pujols or Calhoun.  2- Monetary consideration.  Calhoun will be playing for the league minimum for another two years.  Over the next two years, you can expect Trumbo to earn at least 7 million.  
 
In conclusion, I think Calhoun is a slightly more valuable player given the climate of the Angels and his skill set. Not only does he contribute in more aspects, the idea that Trumbo's DH and backup corner OF limits his value on a team that has Pujols and Hamilton, both of whom will need considerable time at DH. 

That's what my choice would be. That said, I don't necessarily see Bourjos on the Angels long-term. If Cron, Grichuk or even Borenstein hit well then Bourjos can be traded after next year and Calhoun inserted in LF, with Trout back in CF.

I think AJ was the first to say exactly what I was looking for in this thread.  Is Trumbo more valuable than Calhoun?  Because for measuring purposes, Kole Calhoun would effectively be considered his replacement given that he plays 1B and the corner OF.  You also have to consider the circumstances.  How valuable are HR's to this team vs. OBP?  
 
If every player had a high OBP but only moderate power, then Calhoun would hold practically no value.  Conversely, if every player on the team was a power hitter with a low OBP then Trumbo would hold little value.  So how do these guys measure up with comparison to their team?  Well in terms of power, the Angels have Hamilton, Pujols and Trout.  In terms of OBP the Angels have Trout and Iannetta.
 
BA - Calhoun would likely hit 20-30 points higher in any given season.
OBP - Calhoun's OBP would be 50 points higher on average. 
HR's - Trumbo should hit 20 more HR's yearly.
SB - Calhoun should take 5-10 extra bases a year. 
Defense - Despite the results lately, Calhoun is a better defender in the OF than Trumbo while Trumbo's better at 1B. 
 
Finally, there are two more aspects to consider.  1-If Trumbo's the better defender at 1B, do we have a replacement?  Yes, Pujols or Calhoun.  2- Monetary consideration.  Calhoun will be playing for the league minimum for another two years.  Over the next two years, you can expect Trumbo to earn at least 7 million.  
 
In conclusion, I think Calhoun is a slightly more valuable player given the climate of the Angels and his skill set. Not only does he contribute in more aspects, the idea that Trumbo's DH and backup corner OF limits his value on a team that has Pujols and Hamilton, both of whom will need considerable time at DH. 

Trumbo is finishing up his third full season, all of which are very similar. Check out his fWAR: 2.1, 2.2, 1.9. Its probably safe to say that his 1.9 fWAR this year will increase a bit to be right there with 2011 and '12.
 
Chances are he's not getting much better - he's just been too consistent. His walk rate has improved slightly each year, but at the expense of striking out more. His BABIP is down this year at .272 from .316 last year, but it was .274 in 2011 so it could be that this year is more indicative of his true talent level than last.
 
If we want to be a bit optimistic we can hope that his modest defensive gains will remain and his BABIP will stabilize around .300. That means next year he could hit around .260/.320/.500 with 35 HR, which with his averagish defense would be good for about 3 fWAR, I think. I think that's the best we can reasonably hope for, although it is certainly possible that he has a career year at some point and hits .280 with 40 HR and a 4-5 fWAR. I wouldn't expect that to happen more than once, though. .260/.800 seems more indicative of an optimized true talent level.
 
Calhoun, on the other hand, seems capable of hitting about .280/.350/.450 with 15-20 HR as a major leaguer - or that would be my guess. If his defense is average he should be a 3-4 fWAR player, and thus better than Trumbo.
 
Given that Peter Bourjos likely won't be traded because of declined trade value, it seems probably that one of Trumbo and Calhoun get traded, possibly along with Howie Kendrick. I'd much rather see Trumbo go as I think he has a bit more trade value - those 90+ HR over the last three years are enticing - but at the same time I think Calhoun will be a bit better.

I mostly don't like the idea of a Garza investment because he's a chauvinistic d-bag and I don't want to root for him.  Get someone easier to cheer for and like.  

Both have shown that their bat is good enough to play in the big leagues.  Conger has shown that he can be a mid .700 ops guy which is solid for an MLB catcher.
 
Calhoun is the only player, other than Trout, with an OPS over .800, which with his OBP, I think a .780 to .800 is pretty realistic possibility over the course of the season. 
 
I would be perfectly fine going into next season with these two guys penciled in as starters.  I like Calhoun, he seems to bring some intensity and excitement to the clubhouse. 

Also playing in SLC can inflate his numbers and make him a more attractive trade target.

I bid him adieu and farewell.  Vladdy is a Hall of Famer in my book and one of the greatest Angels ever.  It's hard not to love the guy. 

I bid him adieu and farewell.  Vladdy is a Hall of Famer in my book and one of the greatest Angels ever.  It's hard not to love the guy. 

I bid him adieu and farewell.  Vladdy is a Hall of Famer in my book and one of the greatest Angels ever.  It's hard not to love the guy. 

I bid him adieu and farewell.  Vladdy is a Hall of Famer in my book and one of the greatest Angels ever.  It's hard not to love the guy. 

I bid him adieu and farewell.  Vladdy is a Hall of Famer in my book and one of the greatest Angels ever.  It's hard not to love the guy. 

I bid him adieu and farewell.  Vladdy is a Hall of Famer in my book and one of the greatest Angels ever.  It's hard not to love the guy. 

A.J. and Chuck,
 
I think it's pretty clear that Calhoun has ascended the depth chart and is no longer considered an option in AAA.  Before this season, I wouldn't have dreamt of trading Bourjos who is a personal favorite or Trumbo, who is a hometown favorite.  But the circumstances have made it abundantly clear that these trades are beginning to make more sense.  Calhoun fits every hole this team has.  Left-handed, patient, defensively versatile, can hit anywhere 1-9.  
 
My question for you two is, who do you trade, Bourjos, Trumbo or both and if so, what teams would be the most interested?  I could see both making some degree of sense in Tampa Bay, Kansas City or Pittsburgh. 

What I'd do - Weav, Wilson, Kuroda (perfect world he's available), Richards & Hughes.  
 
And even then, that's only fixing part of this equation which is plaguing the Angels.  I'd also want to go out there and sign two really good relievers and trade Kendrick for a couple of very good pitching prospects in AA or higher.
 
I'd really want to set the Angels up so that in two-three years they'd have Richards, Sappington and the two good young pitching prospects from the Kendrick deal in the rotation.  Kuroda and Hughes would be short term fixes and the down the road we can decide if we want to keep Weav and Wilson around any longer. 
 
The final part of the equation.  Make a decision on Scioscia and Dipoto.  Right now I honestly don't care.  trade one, fire the other, fire them both, or keep both for the long term.  Just remove the uncertainty so that we all can move past this. 

Can't see the Angels dealing Aybar unless they have a suitable replacement in mind.  I can speak for sure there were talks of trading Aybar back at the deadline, but from what I understand that was due diligence that grew into blatant consideration because of what was being offered.  Obviously the deal never came to fruition but it does leave me encouraged to know that Dipoto has his eye on the future and is willing to make sacrifices to bring in the young SP talent the club so desperately needs.  
 
It looks like Dipoto has his eye on a few more RIchards type of starters. I'd be more willing to part ways with Kendrick or Trumbo for that young talent, as SS isn't exactly a talent rich position right now and we can count on Aybar for a .280ish BA, good defense and 20ish SB every year.  That's better than what all but a handful of teams have. 

This must be a peace-treaty arranged marriage.   
 
1. Dipoto fires the first shot, trades Mathis (2012).
2. Scioscia fires back by benching the recently promoted Conger (2012). 
3. Dipoto comes right back and fires Hatcher (2012).
4. Scioscia starts using Jason Isringhausen and LaTroy Hawkins in clutch situations to make Dipoto look stupid (2012).
5. Dipoto figures Sosh will put awful pitchers in on a consistent basis, finds the worse pitcher available in Joe Blanton to make Scioscia look bad.
6. Move backfires and makes Dipoto look bad.  Then Scioscia just keep pitching him to rub salt on the wound.
7. Dipoto trades for Rasmus and tries to get him to marry Mathis to make amends.  Finds out Mathis isn't available, but sister is. Appeases Sosh. 
8. Sosh is currently planning to set Napoli up with Iannetta's sister as a backhanded peaceful gesture. 

They already have a name for their daughter.
Cera.

I'd ask the O's about Wei-Yin Chen. He is signed through the 2014 season with a club option for 2015. The O's probably wouldn't be willing to trade him, however they could definitely use a second baseman, at least until Jonathan Schoop is ready. I'd offer them something like Kendrick and Bourjos, and maybe Cron as well.

Mod Edit:
 
Scotty, you can knock off the crap in this thread.  It doesn't look really good for somebody who tries to post with authority about prospects to show bias or have personal agendas against certain prospects.
 
Stop posting in this thread if you can't behave like an adult.