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No hes just bringing up a years old argument where he felt he had the right to define what moderate means to other people... nothing to see. 

For this to be true they have to resolve the issues in like the next two weeks and they arent even talking.  I wish I shared the optimism, but i dont right now.  I hope im wrong.  

The guy was throwing total wiffle balls that day, hope to see more of it...
 
 

The guy was throwing total wiffle balls that day, hope to see more of it...
 
 

The guy was throwing total wiffle balls that day, hope to see more of it...
 
 

my first thought was, no, next.... but i did a little more looking and i have to say the numbers do make a crap ton of sense in comparison to Gwynn.
On tyop of the above he had a higher career OBP, SLG, and OPS, but of course didnt have Gwynn's AVG, but was only 4 pts behind on OPS+.  
What it comes down to is simply that Gwynn was a hitter, Abreu was more of a moneyball type. having over twice the walks as Gwynn, but also about 4 times the Ks. 
This to me is the separator.. Gwynn likely forgot more about actually hitting than Abreu ever knew by the standards of their day.  But when you look at it thru todays lens, the gap closes. 
BUT, in all fairness, if Gwynns numbers were hall worthy, Abreu has to at least be in the conversation statistically.
Youre right though, the vets committees will have a lot of conversations on this one im sure. 

Fantastic article as always @Jeff Fletcher

I agree 100% with the character/moving target stuff, as you say, it's about baseball, not popularity or other stuff. 

Its a given there are already poor character in the hall, Ty Cobb by all accounts was a flat our miserable human being, but that takes nothing away from his on field achievement.  Also as you say if the hall want that considered it should prune the list before handing it out for votes, they do not.

The hall cant be about comparing players to every historical great.  In the past you weren't making the hall hitting 250ish, only three players have made it in hitting less than 260 as far as i know in quick research, but in todays game, thats been rendered moot in favor of OPS/OBP.  In the moneyball era, its bound to happen.
As far as those borderline guys, for me it comes down to this, if i think of the best players of that time, not compared to other eras, or the past, or changing stat concerns were they the best in their day compared to their peers.  If i have to hesitate to say yes, then they probably dont belong.  Does Helton meet that criteria, i think i would hesitate but i wouldn't be disappointed either.   For me hes the epitome of that border.

Re steroids, well, in my opinion MLB and to a certain degree the BBWAA were duplicit in it, there is no way they didnt know, and took full advantage of it to raise the game in terms of popularity, who can forget "chicks dig the long ball" after all.  I find holding guys out on the basis of that silly.  Bonds, Clemons and such by all accounts were hall bound long before they ever met Balco or whoever they were involved with.  If were talking about a guy who would never have been in that conversation without them, then sure, its a no.

That depends on how/why they left, where they went, and what if anything filled the void.\
I was a Rams season ticket holder, when they left like they did, ive never rooted for them again.  At this point i no longer even watch the NFL. 
If they moved with reason, such as CAs bullshit going on now, id probably remain a fan.  If they went across the country to like Tennessee that interest would probably wane a bit due to lack of being able to attend anything, but if closer such as Vegas that i could still go to a few games it probably wouldnt change.
But if someone else came in and filled that void i would try to support them as well.
Im a fan of the game as well as the team.  The Angels are and have been my fav team since the late 70s, but not the only team ill watch play the game. 

MLB will raise the cost of tickets and concessions at minor league stadiums to pay for those fines. 

If I had to choose to trade Marsh or Adell I’d trade Adams. 

It would be awful to trade Marsh for Gray. 

The thing i find most frustrating about this, is not the current status as we have graduated some very good players, but for years all the talk was about a sustainable farm and all that, and yet after these graduations its looking bleak.  I expected the opposite.  Thats disheartening that we were so average for so long making no moves, to end up more or less back where we started. 

I actually love this idea.
Legit 5 tool player, plus arm, gold glove, actual RF, patient approach... whats not to love.
Opens up possibility to make deals for young OF.
Its the kind of creativity we need out of this front office right now.
Is it likely, probably not, but i wouldn't be disappointed at all.

The thing i find most frustrating about this, is not the current status as we have graduated some very good players, but for years all the talk was about a sustainable farm and all that, and yet after these graduations its looking bleak.  I expected the opposite.  Thats disheartening that we were so average for so long making no moves, to end up more or less back where we started. 

SC:  100M floor is a great idea, the cap isnt.  implement the floor and leave the tax system as is, whats the problem?  

My concerns now:
SS
Bullpen
Starting pitcher
Bullpen
Back up Catcher

This is the list i think im most concerned with.
We still need at least one more top bullpen arm in my opinion. 
There is a lot of help on this list to be had.  
Heck even Cishek didn't pitch poorly overall and finished way better than he started. 

the team is incomplete.  
they need a SS
they probably need another starter
they could use another pen arm, a backup C and MIF depth on top of a SS.  

Too high a price to pay, at some point giving up young arms to get young arms becomes a lateral move.
No im not suggesting they are as good as he, but Detmers could be close enough so why give up the rest?
AS others have said, one of the OF, a young pitcher not in our top 3, and whatever else... lets not forget Castillo only has two years left. 

Of course we can, there is zero evidence to suggest otherwise considering the organizations other recent purchases of the land around the stadium and such, were clearly not hurting.
The question isnt can we, but will ownership allow it.

Of course we can, there is zero evidence to suggest otherwise considering the organizations other recent purchases of the land around the stadium and such, were clearly not hurting.
The question isnt can we, but will ownership allow it.

I think a lot of teams are going to spend money this off-season. I expect the Dodgers, Angels, Giants, Rangers, Mariners, Red Sox, Tigers, Mets, and maybe Phillies to all spend somewhat big. It’s going to be an exciting off season.  

This would obviously be our highest hopes... i like the idea of short term deals to buy time for the kids as well.
This was a good signing on every level in my view.   Yes it has risk, but its a lower risk than others and sends the right message.

This would obviously be our highest hopes... i like the idea of short term deals to buy time for the kids as well.
This was a good signing on every level in my view.   Yes it has risk, but its a lower risk than others and sends the right message.

I like it, dont really care about the draft pick right now this club needs to win at the ML level, now.
The only question i have is whether this is the beginning, or the end?  Is he the piece, or the compliment.
Will we still either go out and sign another to a longer term deal such as a Stroman, or make a trade for one such as the rumored Mia or Cin options.
If i had to guess right now, i think more likely a trade is coming as we still have other issues to address.
But this is definitely an encouraging start, i hope 🙂