Drellich: Season likely to start on time

[Pancake Bear]

Can't find the old thread, so I'll start a new one. 

Linking to mlbtraderumors since not everyone has The Athletic and they have a summary of it.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/01/no-delays-expected-for-start-of-spring-training-2021-season.html

[Angel Oracle]

So only six weeks to ST, with so many FAs unsigned?

[DMVol]

2 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

So only six weeks to ST, with so many FAs unsigned?

Will be an interesting and busy 6 weeks....

[tdawg87]

Hope this is true. Just keep everyone safe and wearing masks at the start. 

The owners can lick my nuts.

[Revad]

22 minutes ago, DMVol said:

Will be an interesting and busy 6 weeks....

I would have guessed mid-May so this is sweet!

[Second Base]

It's a little ridiculous that they were even considering not starting on time after the success of the NFL season, and particularly since Florida has embraced the freedom to remain open for a while now. If the games were being held in a state where they've shut everything down, I could understand because it would mean that rules are being enforced consistently, which is there right thing to do. But if states remain open, then the right thing to do is allow for Spring Training to occur.

No good reason to delay it. 

[tdawg87]

I have a good feeling about this thread.

[Pancake Bear]

2 minutes ago, Second Base said:

It's a little ridiculous that they were even considering not starting on time after the success of the NFL season, and particularly since Florida has embraced the freedom to remain open for a while now. If the games were being held in a state where they've shut everything down, I could understand because it would mean that rules are being enforced consistently, which is there right thing to do. But if states remain open, then the right thing to do is allow for Spring Training to occur.

No good reason to delay it. 

I think the owners would delay it if they could. Thing of it is, they're all about playing the PR game, and the optics of delaying would be nasty for them at this point. And given the CBA war coming at season's end, they want the fans on their side, not angry at them over refusing to let the players play so they can squeeze every last dollar out of the season that they can. 

[T.G.]

3 hours ago, Pancake Bear said:

I think the owners would delay it if they could.

Why?

[Pancake Bear]

12 minutes ago, T.G. said:

Why?

Millions of reasons, and they all have dollar signs. 

[Taylor]

Hopefully MLB will be in the BSOHL.

[T.G.]

8 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

Millions of reasons, and they all have dollar signs. 

I really don't understand why delaying the season would make them money.

[T.G.]

@Taylor!!

Welcome back! Happy New Year!

Edited January 4, 2021 by T.G.

[Pancake Bear]

10 minutes ago, T.G. said:

I really don't understand why delaying the season would make them money.

Each game played is money they pay to players. Each game played without fans is losing money.

They want to delay the season until the vaccine is widely available and in use so they can open up to fans, pro-rate contracts for less games, and make the most money they can.

[T.G.]

9 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

Each game played is money they pay to players. Each game played without fans is losing money.

They want to delay the season until the vaccine is widely available and in use so they can open up to fans, pro-rate contracts for less games, and make the most money they can.

Does it also mean less TV revenue? I really don't know.

[Inside Pitch]

3 hours ago, T.G. said:

I really don't understand why delaying the season would make them money.

The big money is in the postseason TV, those early games are just added salary, travel, and expenses.  

[Revad]

True but plenty of revenue is create while I’m scratching here and there and following on TV.  The owners have made plenty of money and need that tv audience.

[Inside Pitch]

5 hours ago, Revad said:

True but plenty of revenue is create while I’m scratching here and there and following on TV.  The owners have made plenty of money and need that tv audience.

Players don't earn a salary in the postseason, they stop getting paid at game 162.   So, anything that takes salaries away but retains or adds playoff TV revenue is a net win for ownership.

[Blarg]

31 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Players don't earn a salary in the postseason, they stop getting paid at game 162.   So, anything that takes salaries away but retains or adds playoff TV revenue is a net win for ownership.

Actually they do get paid for playoffs and world series, just probably much less last season because the formula is based on gate receipts, according to this article.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/29/the-red-sox-won-the-world-series-heres-how-much-money-theyll-earn.html

All players who compete in the postseason receive a playoff bonus, but the amount depends on how far their team advances. 

“The players’ pool” — which is divided among the 10 postseason clubs — “is formed from 50 percent of the gate receipts from the Wild Card Games; 60 percent of the gate receipts from the first three games of the Division Series; 60 percent of the gate receipts from the first four games of the League Championship Series; and 60 percent of the gate receipts from the first four games of the World Series,” according to the MLB.

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

Actually they do get paid for playoffs and world series, just probably much less last season because the formula is based on gate receipts, according to this article.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/29/the-red-sox-won-the-world-series-heres-how-much-money-theyll-earn.html

All players who compete in the postseason receive a playoff bonus, but the amount depends on how far their team advances. 

So, my statement that players stop earning a salary when the postseason starts is correct, right?   

Also, tell me how much the Angels players made from the playoffs last year?   Meanwhile Arte and every other owner that missed out on the postseason still got a chunk of those national TV deals.   Why do you think owners were all about expanded playoffs at the expense of the length of the season?

Hope that clears up what I was saying.

 

[Blarg]

Touchy are we? What I thought you were saying is playoff teams play for free. They don't. Their contracted salary ends but bonus pool money pays for their appearances.  Obviously the Angels players hot nothing, not being part of the playoffs.

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Touchy are we? What I thought you were saying is playoff teams play for free. They don't. Their contracted salary ends but bonus pool money pays for their appearances.  Obviously the Angels players hot nothing, not being part of the playoffs.

Easy with the touchy talk, maybe follow along with what's being said and why?

People asked why it was to the owners benefit that part of the season be cancelled -- I pointed out why.   Arte got his share, the Angels' players did not.   It's all good for the owners.

Also, there were ZERO gate receipts last year until the WS.    So you tell me.  Who stands to benefit?

[tdawg87]

Blarg isn't going to survive, is he.

[Inside Pitch]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

Blarg isn't going to survive, is he.

Nah, I get what he thought I meant.  I don't mind clarifying what I was saying, others may have read it the way he did too.    

 

[T.G.]

5 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

  So you tell me.  Who stands to benefit?

The Man.