Don

That would definitely make them think twice about throwing at one of our guys again.

Yeah. We should've brushed someone back in the tenth to send a message.

That would definitely make them think twice about throwing at one of our guys again.

That would definitely make them think twice about throwing at one of our guys again.

Yeah. We should've brushed someone back in the tenth to send a message.

You guys are reading way too much into this.  The attitude of the team isn’t because Maddon gives some bullshit quote.  The team isn’t losing because of some laid back attitude. They are losing because the pitching has sucked.  This team isn’t motivation or intensity away from being good.  They are good pitching away from being good.  Also that edge that teams have isn’t because of the manager, it is because of players that have an edge.  We don’t have that.  If Trout would have charged the mound the team would have followed.   He didn’t, they didn’t.  It isn’t a Maddon personality thing, it’s a personnel thing.  I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this escalates tomorrow or Thursday when the Angels are pitching.  

For the longest time I could put down anything with zero problems. Like an iron stomach situation. Then like a year and a half ago I got what I believe to be Norovirus (basically puked and sprayed stuff out the other end for like 10 hours, followed by another like 8 hours of horrific stomach cramps). Ever since then certain foods (including but not limited to really spicy things) cause an intense pain in my stomach that lasts for like 20 seconds then goes away. It’s freaking weird.

This thread took a dark turn.

Glad you’re back @ten ocho recon scout. You’re a good dude and you make this board a better place.

Glad you’re back @ten ocho recon scout. You’re a good dude and you make this board a better place.

@Lou Lolz. Love that meme/gif.

Glad you’re back @ten ocho recon scout. You’re a good dude and you make this board a better place.

Glad you’re back @ten ocho recon scout. You’re a good dude and you make this board a better place.

Outside the Strike Zone: What Is a Flexor Mass Strain?
By Robert Najarian | September 19, 2016  
Robert G. Najarian, MD, is board certified in orthopaedic sports medicine and orthopaedic surgery. He is a member of Inova Sports Medicine, the official sports medicine partner of the Washington Nationals and Washington Redskins. He has particular interest in treating injuries and disorders of the knee, shoulder and elbow. Read Dr. Najarian’s profile.
Every now and then, a little-known sports injury pops into public awareness. This week, sports fans are standing around the water cooler talking about something called “flexor mass strain.”
So, what is it? The flexor mass is a collection of muscles and tendons that all come together in the forearm near the elbow. They allow you to flex and pronate (turn) your wrist.
The flexor mass can become strained when it is stretched or slightly torn. This type of injury can be acute—that is, a sudden injury that occurs during a single event, such as a baseball pitch gone wrong. Or, it can develop over time through overuse.
A flexor mass strain isn’t exactly rare, but it’s not a terribly common injury. When we do see it, it’s usually in professional pitchers—a result of the repetitiveness and extreme velocity of their throws.

Diagnosis: Listen and Learn
A lot of things can go wrong in the arm of a pitcher, and diagnosing injuries like flexor mass strains can be an interesting challenge.
Often, high-level pitchers have a variety of muscle and tendon changes due to overuse. Those changes aren’t necessarily problematic, but they can make it hard to see what’s going on in an MRI.
Doctors hone in on the problem with a physical exam that stresses various muscles in the arm. But with these types of injuries, it’s also critical to listen carefully to the athlete’s description of the problem.
With flexor mass strains, pitchers usually don’t feel pain until the follow-through phase of the pitch. That’s when you need the flexor mass to snap the wrist to get the ball in the strike zone. When the flexor mass is injured, the ball often ends high and pitchers can have problems locating their pitch.
Rest and Recover
Sports injuries are always frustrating for players and fans, but flexor mass strains aren’t usually among the worst-case scenarios. We typically treat them with rest, anti-inflammatory medications and a rehab/strengthening program. Rarely do they require surgery.
Still, it’s impossible to predict how long any given player might take to recover. It depends on the player and the severity of the strain. Some players are back on the field after 2 weeks of rest; for others it can take 6 to 8 weeks.
The important thing with flexor mass strains—and indeed, all sports injuries—is not to do too much too soon. Playing before an injury has healed can create a bigger problem, such as a tendon tear or ligament injury. It could also expose nearby structures to injury. That’s always an outcome we strive to avoid.
At Inova Sports Medicine, we treat patients of all age and activity levels, providing personalized care to get you back to the games and activities you love. To make an appointment, call 703-970-6464.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15466738/
Hopefully the grade 1/2 is the silver lining 

I have one child. 
I don’t understand why a guy having his first child and missing a few games because of it is a deal-breaker for you. I don’t find that to be a reasonable position.
i have no idea what kind of father you are and make no assumptions about it based on what you’ve posted here. I would assume you’re a good dad, just like I’d assume that for anyone here.*
 
*exception noted for HaloThunder

Calling a Ward walk off bomb.

I go away for 1 inning and all hell breaks loose.
 

I’m not ready to give up on him as a starter; but I do wonder if with his stuff he may be better suited as a hitter / RP. 
 
either way, hopefully he looks better next Sunday. 

You’ve gotta admit that watching his FB velocity drop like a rock toward the end there was worrying. I mean 40+ pitches in an inning might have a lot to do with that, but it’s still not a good sign.

Defense couldn't be worse than Upton's, and for that matter it's not like Goodwin is good defensively either. This is just them taking advantage of CBA with service time manipulation. Every team does it.

Oh I'm pretty sure his followers don't care. Neither does the GOP. It's just another Friday.

Parades are terrible.  The only things that makes the HB one tolerable are alcohol and women dressed for summer.  Unless you have young kids, are out there getting sloshed or both I don't see the appeal because it's been the same thing every year I've gone. 

Solid movie for sure. The pacing is great.

Blood Diamond with Leonardo DiCaprio and the beautiful Jennifer Connelly. I liked it.