Don

There was an article about the difference between the 2013/14 Angels today. And to your point, it basically pointed out how several "small" improvements can make a huge difference.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/los-angeles-angels-al-west-comeback-mike-trout-garrett-richards/

This is exactly where I see an issue. The Cleveland Indians name doesn't bother me, nor does the FSU Seminoles name. But Redskins? That's the literal equivalent of the US or Europe going into Somalia and starting a soccer team named the Mogadishu Darkies. I understand my post may get deleted because of that term, but it is the real equivalent.

Hmmm do you think the burning and looting of those stores affects peoples livelihoods? Do those protesting ever think about that?
I'm cool with people taking to the streets condemning what they see as injustice. Also condemn your own and put a stop to the injustice they are causing.

They're really digging themselves a hole in Ferguson tonight. Firing tear gas at people running AWAY from them, arresting reporters for no good reason, and drawing down on pretty much anyone walking the streets. It's almost a clinic in how to permanently destroy a relationship with a community.

Murdering someone with their fists doesn't help their public perception much either. Going back to Poozy's original point, I don't doubt that stories get twisted to fit a pre-determined narrative all the time. I think that's why it's important to get to the facts of any given situation to come to a solid understanding of what happened. That's why I hope more departments begin using the uniform-mounted Go Pros. It offers more protection to the public and to individual officers. It certainly would have helped clear up what happened in Ferguson, MO, which I really have no clue about regarding who was in the right or the wrong. The cop might lose his job or worse over a clean shoot, and he also might get away with murder. And to me it is extremely unproductive that this story is and will continue to be about race rather than about properly documenting interactions between police and civilians. The same thing happened in the Trayvon Martin case. It became about a white guy (who was actually Cuban) shooting a black teenager when it really should've been about why anyone ever thought Zimmerman was smart enough to carry a gun in public or participate in a neighborhood watch group.

Actually water collection is very real law and as been for longer than 1925, these go back to early settlers. My father has over 30 acres in Montana and his property rights include water allocation from a creek that is supplied by snow runoff. His allocation is based on a series of ownership rights that supersede where property boundaries exist.
 
He has had to go to court several times to get his neighbors in the lands above him with lesser water rights to quit diverting the creek for flood irrigation. He has 3rd rights to water while theirs are closer to 25th and they have at times shut off his water supply and the eventual access to the river, taking up to 3,000 times more water than they have apportioned to them.
 
If this guy is diverting water that feeds a river he is in violation of the law and should be required to follow the state and county guidelines. Claiming personal property rights is only going to get him more fines and jail time. His water rights are more than likely part of the county record and that is where he is in violation. Being a stubborn SOB claiming he is protecting his property rights for Americans makes for great theatrics but in the end he is no better than someone putting a fence on the wrong side of a property line and claiming more real estate for themselves.

He needs his own thread for shutting the Dodgers down tonight. He threw a great game and deserves some reactionary excitement and GIF-ing.

RIchards likes to pitch to Conger and it shows.........Conger looked pretty good behind the plate tonight......
 
so if he goes 0h for at the plate -- if he can call a Richards game like that......well.....I put him in there....

I think it was because of there being two outs. While hindsight is 20/20, I don't blame Scioscia for leaving him in.

I think they are doing what they should be doing. They'll have to do it again eventually too. That's the solution. For Israel, this is as good as it gets.

Good lord somebody take that shovel away from nate.

ha ha.  Nate is sticking to his guns.
 
Stalin killed jews in Russia.  Thousands upon thousands of jews in Russia.  He killed Poles, he killed Slavs, he killed anyone who got in his way.
 
The idea of who is "worse" is just dumb.  Bottom line is that evil men who are given power can do immeasurable damage.

So, Kubrick invented trolling?

I just don't see any reason to be involved at all beyond getting Americans out of the country ASAP. We installed a corrupt Shia government that has alienated a very large portion of its population and is now suffering the backlash. We can bomb Sunni militants (in this case ISIS) all we want, but it does nothing to solve a problem, it only delays the inevitable.We need to let these people start solving their own problems. It'll be a bloody, long, and complicated process, but western nations have been ****ing around with the borders and rulers in the Middle East for about a century now, and it obviously hasn't worked out. Who knows, maybe it's better for the Iraqi people if they end up divided into three separate nations, or maybe it's better if Iran annexes the Shia portion of Iraq. But I'm pretty certain it's not good if we forcibly prop up a failed government in a failed state just because we don't like admitting we ****ed up the dismount. Whatever happens, if we just leave them alone they'll eventually come to a better conclusion than any one we force on them.

Does anyone remember the "Half Measures" speech from Mike on Breaking Bad? That how I feel about US involvement in the Middle East. We need to stay out of everyone's business there or we need to conquer it. Anything in between is bound to fail.

So, Kubrick invented trolling?

So, Kubrick invented trolling?

This thread made more sense when I thought it was about Green Bay.

Great job by Hector and Rasmus and really the entire pen plus Weav.

This thread made more sense when I thought it was about Green Bay.

Well, I hope he doesn't actually pitch for us.

It's time for a rant. (Warning, long post ahead. Bring chips.)
 
If you follow me on Twitter, you would know I have grown up in Red Sawx nation. So I am accustomed to being surrounded by stupidity. But I would spend every night at Fenway if it meant I never had to come in contact with another Detroit Tigers fan, in person or online. Don't get me wrong, Sawx fans are obnoxious, self-righteous, and entitled and I despise them with every fiber of my being.
 
But let me make this clear: Tigers fans are the worst. Bar none. They are whiny, self-absorbed, and are possibly the most defensive fanbase in all of sports. If Freud were alive today, he would dedicate his entire life's work to the study of the inferiority complex that plagues the city of Detroit.
 
Now, I know what you are thinking. "tdawg, every fanbase has their share of idiots. It isn't fair to judge an entire fanbase based on a select few." And to that I say "shut the hell up you pubish imbecile". First off, I don't know every Tigers fan in existence, that would be impossible. But I grew up in a baseball neighborhood and have met hundreds of fans (mostly Red Sox fans) in person and online. The amount of stupidity that I have endured over the years would drive most men insane. However there has been one constant through all of it: I know a lot of good, intelligent fans. Yes, I know at least a dozen Red Sox fans who are actually pretty fun to talk baseball with. One of my best friends is a Yankees fan and he is one of the most knowledgeable baseball fans I know. I work with a Phillies fan as well, and while she is a casual fan, she is still knowledgeable of the game and their farm system, as well as other players around the league.
 
Admittedly, I don't personally know a fan of every team in baseball. I have however, spent a lot of time on message boards throughout the years, and blogs, and have talked with fans of every team from around the globe. I know a lot of intelligent baseball fans. Guess which fanbase has 0 of them?
 

Getting warmer!
 
I have never, in my 20 years of being a baseball fan, associated with an intelligent, unbiased, non-defensive Tigers fan. Once again, does that mean that the 30 or so fans I've associated with online over the past few years represent the millions of Tigers fans in the world? Yes, yes it does. With the help of HaloThunder, I have calculated that 1 online fan represents 100,000 people, give or take. So 30 x 100,000 = 3 million. That's at least 98% of their fanbase right there. Probably more if you count the hobos.
 
"But tdawg, you are just being silly. Hell, the Angels have their share of stupid fans! Just look at yourself!". This is true. This team has dumbass fans out the butt. But they also have a strong, albeit small, hardcore fanbase that is highly intelligent, rational, and not incredibly buttsore over every little thing. Now, you may be asking for some "evidence". And unfortunately finding evidence of stupid Tigers fans has proven to be extremely difficult.
 
Haha just kidding, it was easy as shit. From the ESPN article about the 2014 ASG comments section, may I provide you with your monthly dose of stupid:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
And my personal favorite:
 
 
This is the type of crap I'm talking about. This garbage plagues every ESPN article, every Yahoo article, and has even gotten some shit in Deapspin as well. These people have mental deficiencies that can't be cured. But why? How did this all begin?
 
Well, there's this:
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/We-hate-Jered-Weaver/102496893183670
 
Guess who started that page? It was started shortly after the Weaver throwing at Avila incident. I mean, how childish can you get? I talked to one guy who used to love Weaver, and he said that what he did was basically attempted murder. No joke. This incident was what I believe to be the downfall of this fanbase. They went from being stupid but just kind of there, to being stupid, and annoying and whiny and the biggest bunch of crybaby man-children to ever disgrace the entire planet. The entire city of Detroit and all of their fans went full retard on that day. Now don't get me wrong, Weaver was a dick during that whole fiasco, but really now? Really?
 
Then comes Trout, and Tigers' fans sphincters tightened up so much you could cut off the circulation of Adam's dick. OH NOES, a player who might dethrone their Miggy (the guy they traded for and didn't develop but act like they did) as the best in the game? The MVP debate the last few years has further shown the lack of intelligence from Detroit's fanbase. I have seen every excuse you could possibly imagine "Well Miggy went to 3rd and was selfless and it's a harder position to play than center so that's why his D isn't as good". "WAR is a completely useless stat and doesn't mean anything" (unless Verlander leads the league in WAR, of course). The list goes on.
 
I could post links to forums, blogs, (I'm pretty sure there's an anti-Weaver Twitter page as well created by the special people up North). But I'll save Chuck the bandwidth.
 
So there you have it. The Tigers have the dumbest, most obnoxiously ignorant fanbase in the majors. You are free to disagree, but I will leave you with one final gem before you hit that post button:
 
 
We are living in dark times people. Dark times.

It appears that Tony LaRussa is slowly turning into a Stephen King/John Denver hybrid.

also, man you guys bitch about jeter a lot. the guy was a great player and a HOF'er. sure he gets some accolades that he doesn't deserve, but that's only because of all the other incredible stuff he did.
 
pay respect to a HOF'er on his way out, the same way they should have done for gwynn, zimmer and fregosi tonight. it would have taken virtually no time at all.

Aybar in!