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I have been thinking this too, and I don’t think it would be a bad thing. It would give us yet another league average bat at a questionable position - more depth. 

I think they challenge the Dodgers for the division. The Dodgers lost so much talent that they failed to replace. I could see them dropping to 90-95 wins, and that might be where the Padres end up as well. 

But also a reason for hope for 2023.

It doesn’t make a lot of sense to grab another starter at this point. The only options - a guy like Wacha, for example - won’t move the needle much beyond the internal options. The money would be better spent on getting two of the available pen arms. 

It doesn’t make a lot of sense to grab another starter at this point. The only options - a guy like Wacha, for example - won’t move the needle much beyond the internal options. The money would be better spent on getting two of the available pen arms. 

It doesn’t make a lot of sense to grab another starter at this point. The only options - a guy like Wacha, for example - won’t move the needle much beyond the internal options. The money would be better spent on getting two of the available pen arms. 

I am confident Perry gets another arm in the next few weeks. And a guy like Chafin or Moore would go a long way toward improving the pen. 

I know I get called a pessimist for this, but the Angels as currently constructed, appear to be an 85 win team. When the trade deadline comes, they'll be too good to sell off pieces, not good enough to emerge as a clear buyer. So I think they'll do little of consequence. 
85 wins won't be enough to get them into the post season, and after the year, Ohtani is going to sign a 500 million dollar mega deal to play with either the Padres, Mets, Giants or Mariners, and the Angels will get nothing in compensation that makes it even remotely palatable. However, at the end of the day, are you really sure paying one player 500 million for his 30's is the right move to make? 
It'll sting at first, but the Angels will have dodged a bullet long term because he's not going to be doing the two way thing will at age 35, let alone 40. 
Of course, the winter isn't over yet. The Angels may still get another starter and reliever, in which case depending on the quality of those, this could be closer to a 90 win team and that could change things entirely. 

This honestly doesn’t bother me all that much. The devil you know. And at least this one spends money. 

I look at the longview buddy.
He was one of the most beloved owners and quite successful during his first decade as owner of the Angels. 
During Arte's 8-year slump in missing out on the playoffs he signed Trout to two extensions, the last one for life. Signed the World Series MVP Anthony Rendon. Earned the trust of Shohei Ohtani to sign with the Angels. He just pushed the payroll up to a franchise record this offseason. 
If he signs Ohtani to an extension and the Angels are competitive this season and make the playoffs, will you give Arte credit where it's due @Taylor? 

and if he extends Ohtani are you still going to feel the same way? 
I wouldn't be able to wrap my mind around this owner extending two generational players during his ownership, in addition to signing two Hall of Famers in Vladimir Guerrero and Albert Pujols. We all feel the same way about Pujols now, but when Arte signed him he was regarded as the best owner in the game. 

Does this upset you as much as it upsets me? What a stupid decision to discontinue that thing. My Del taco consumption has dropped like 80 percent the last six months. 

This honestly doesn’t bother me all that much. The devil you know. And at least this one spends money. 

This honestly doesn’t bother me all that much. The devil you know. And at least this one spends money. 

This honestly doesn’t bother me all that much. The devil you know. And at least this one spends money. 

This honestly doesn’t bother me all that much. The devil you know. And at least this one spends money. 

Does this upset you as much as it upsets me? What a stupid decision to discontinue that thing. My Del taco consumption has dropped like 80 percent the last six months. 

If you spent more than a minute on Twitter following Angels fans you’d come to the conclusion that Arte is the cheapest owner in MLB and he’s the devil himself. 
 
 

This honestly doesn’t bother me all that much. The devil you know. And at least this one spends money. 

This honestly doesn’t bother me all that much. The devil you know. And at least this one spends money. 

I predict this will go down as the greatest thread in AngelsWin history

This is a brilliant post. I’m not sure you get the credit you deserve. If you were a baseball player, you’d be Stan Musial. Nobody every really talks about Stan, but he is 11th in all time WAR. Quietly, you get the job done day in and day out. 

Absolutely, but why would the Red Sox give any consideration to something like this? I have to assume Houck’s trade value is far more than Rengifo’s. 

Absolutely, but why would the Red Sox give any consideration to something like this? I have to assume Houck’s trade value is far more than Rengifo’s.