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    The Ghost of Bob Starr got a reaction from Tank in Salmon vs. Trout   
    Though I do not agree that he's the greatest Angel (I go with Ryan), I do give you thumbs up for including Ralston in your mention of All time greats.   But Split, I'm guessing you're someone who is 30 or younger.   You don't mention Ryan or Fregosi, or even Grich, Downing, or Baylor.   There were others who were good.   Tanana also gets little credit for being a decent pitcher as an Angel.   He was pretty young when they let him go.  26 or 27 maybe.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Tank in How do you define the Angels?   
    They are a team with historically lots of unfulfilled potential, save for one magical season.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to ettin in How do you define the Angels?   
    Players to me who define the team: Nolan Ryan, Brian Downing, Bobby Grich, Dick Schofield, Mike Witt, Mark Langston, Tim Salmon, Darin Erstad, Chili Davis, Vladimir Guerrero, and Jered Weaver to name a few. More recent players would include Trumbo, Bourjos, and Trout.
     
    Angels baseball is putting the work in. It's "salt-of-the-Earth", down and dirty playstyle. It's an enjoyable grind of hustle, grit, and diving for every ball. It's trying to play baseball the right way, every day. It's the arrival of Summer. It's keeping your eye on the ball. It's going for broke and taking the extra base. It's turning the routine double play. It's making the play at the plate. It's the crack of the bat as the ball hits off the barrel. It's a beautiful curve ball. It's watching yet another no-hitter by Nolan Ryan. It's a grand slam from Dicky Schofield. It's a perfect game from Mike Witt. It's a late inning rally capped by a Guerrero single that sucks the air out of the Fenway fans. It's a World Series Ring we weren't sure we'd ever get. It's watching a young man who loves to play baseball turning into possibly one of the greatest players in the history of the game.
     
    Angels baseball is family. You love them to death and live or die with every second of the game.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Capital_Dave in How do you define the Angels?   
    I'm an Angels fan because your character is best defined when you're cheering through adversity.  I was ecstatic -- then rather uncomfortable -- when the Angels won the World Series.  The prospect of winning another championship by turns thrills and terrifies me.  (I'll be uncomfortable again if the Angels are world champions.)  I define the Angels as a team that's fun to cheer for, through good times and bad... and for whom bad times seem to come easier than good times.  I couldn't live with myself if I was a fan of a team that always wins... that just seems too easy.  I'm happy and comfortable rooting for a team for whom winning is an aspiration; one that is within grasp, and one that will be sweeter to savor when it finally comes to pass.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr got a reaction from Hollyw00d in Fantasy golf   
    I'll enter and not really give a crap and still finish middle of pack.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Stradling in How do you define the Angels?   
    And that was just last year.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Angelsjunky in How do you define the Angels?   
    Loveable losers
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Stradling in Salmon vs. Trout   
    Actually Soto, Splint is in his 50's. My guess is he prefers Salmon to those guys because he started with the Angels and was here his entire career. I also know that Nolan is his all time favorite player.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Mark68 in Carlos Ramirez suspended 100 games   
    If not for weed being on the violations list, the Angels should explore trade options with the Rockies. After all, even the AAA team plays in Colorado...
     
    It's now 4:20 for 18 hrs a day here.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to mtangelsfan in Carlos Ramirez suspended 100 games   
    Common sense, who needs it.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to ELEVEN in Big Announcement - AngelsWin.com Celebrates 10 Years   
    My turn to poop
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr got a reaction from Vegas Halo Fan in This place has been quiet   
    Mathis
    That will add 10+ pages of drivel.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr got a reaction from Jimmag in Anyone want a XXL California Angels grey sweatshirt, free?   
    That's too small for most of the members here.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Second Base in Salmon vs. Trout   
    The use of WAR for Hall of Fame purposes is moronic in the first place. Trout's accumulated 20 WAR so far. At this pace, he could play 6 seasons, accumulate 60 WAR, call it quits and be a HOF candidate, all at age 26. By that measure, he could be in the HOF at age 31.
    Seriously?
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr got a reaction from SlappyUtilityMIF in Anyone want a XXL California Angels grey sweatshirt, free?   
    That's too small for most of the members here.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Angelsjunky in Salmon vs. Trout   
    It saddens me that Mike Trout has made some fans so jaded that a 40 WAR career becomes "mediocre." OK, it doesn't really sadden me, come on, dude.
     
    By the way, according to Fangraphs Salmon had 35.1 career WAR, so he's even worse than you thought.
     
    Anyhow, understand that Fangraphs follows these general guidelines:
    0-1 Scrub
    1-2 Role Player
    2-3 Solid Starter
    3-4 Good Player
    4-5 All-Star
    5-6 Superstar
    6+ MVP
     
    Now look at the same chart with number of years Salmon's accomplished the feat:
    0-1 Scrub (3)
    1-2 Role Player (2)
    2-3 Solid Starter (3)
    3-4 Good Player (2)
    4-5 All-Star (3)
    5-6 Superstar (1)
    6+ MVP (0)
     
    That's 14 seasons, but in three of them he played 76 or fewer games, and five 100 or fewer - so he really only has 9 full seasons and 5 partial seasons. But Salmon has had 4 All-Star or higher caliber seasons, and 6 Good or better, 9 in which he was solid (average) or better. In 1672 games he had 35.1 WAR, which is an average of 3.4 per 162 games.
     
    He's nowhere close to being a Hall of Famer, and I wouldn't say he had a great career in the larger scheme of things - but he had a very good one.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Taylor in For you anti-freese/dui people   
    Scott Spiezio?
     
    Oh wait.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Angel Oracle in For you anti-freese/dui people   
    A spit in the face of Nick Adenhart's memory
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Brent Maguire in How long have you been a fan?   
    Lol failos that story is hilarious. 
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Ordos in How long have you been a fan?   
    That was a lot of reading I skipped over.
    Welcome aboard!
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to red321 in Why I hate the Red Sox   
    I enjoy the one that says Ryan Dempster and Jonny Gomes...it's like reading some of the trade proposals on this board.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to eligrba in Why I hate the Red Sox   
    Mike Trout would be dead to me if he played for the Red Sox.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr got a reaction from Erstad Grit in Anyone want a XXL California Angels grey sweatshirt, free?   
    That's too small for most of the members here.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr got a reaction from NJHalo in Anyone want a XXL California Angels grey sweatshirt, free?   
    That's too small for most of the members here.
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    The Ghost of Bob Starr reacted to Ohtaniland in Anyone want a XXL California Angels grey sweatshirt, free?   
    It pays to be fat. Thanks!
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