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i couldn't stomach the discord in here anymore, so i had to take a break from the board, but i wanted to acknowledge that mike meant a great deal to this organization and while it is time for a change, he brought it out of the abyss. also, that press conference was really touching. i thought he handled himself very well.

Angels are a classy organization. They aren't going to say whatever it is that happened. But him crying at the press conference doesn't scream to me he wanted to leave. 

The best off the field Angels' news I've heard since the Trout extension!!!

Eppler hasn't done an ok job or a good job  He's done a FANTASTIC job.  This was an organization on the baseball abyss.

Finally. It's past time for a change.

Everyone knows it's time for a change. Still a total bummer though. Thanks for everything, Sosh! 

Sounds scientific.

Truly an end of an era and something that's best for both parties

Scioscia was a great manager from 2000 until 2008 or so. Will always appreciate what he did for this franchise in those years, but he should have been gone for at least 6 years now. Maybe he can do better with a new team without the complacency. This was a long time coming!

Finally. 

Say goodbye to the man who missed the playoffs 8 of his last 9 years as manager!!!!!

All my Sosh pics on my phone.

Somebody hasn't been watching Angels games since the All Star break.

I don't see Scioscia making the daily drive from Chatsworth to manage the Phillies.

It would be pretty funny if Trout went to Philly cuz he wanted to reunite with Scioscia.

ANAHEIM — Although Justin Upton will end his season with his accustomed numbers, he would have preferred a smoother ride.
“I typically like to do it in a different fashion than I did, but that’s how things were,” the Angels outfielder said with a shrug.
Upton was hitting .259 with 30 home runs and an .812 OPS heading into the final weekend of the season. His career average is .268 with 28 homers a season and an OPS of .826.
Upton, however, got to those numbers in a turbulent manner. He had a .657 OPS in his first 29 games, followed by a .965 mark over his next 33 games, a .639 over his next 28 games, and then a 1.000 for 32 games. Since coming back from a stint on the disabled list with a finger laceration, he has a .722 mark over his last 21 games.
Upton, 31, said some of his 12 big league seasons have been like that, and he’s not sure why.
Sign up for Home Turf and get exclusive stories every SoCal sports fan must read, sent daily. Subscribe here. He also had no explanation for what has been a consistent area of struggle. Upton has hit .199 with a .657 OPS with runners in scoring position.
“I can’t put a finger on that,” he said. “Every time I felt I was in a hitter’s count, a guy makes a great pitch or I mis-hit something. Things just didn’t go my way with guys in scoring position, but somehow I still drove in runs. It’s just one of those weird things.”
Upton has 85 RBIs, which is tops on the team.
Manager Mike Scioscia said there was some bad luck involved with Upton’s issues with runners in scoring position.
“He hit some balls hard (that were caught),” Scioscia said. “He probably hasn’t been as productive as he’s been in the past in that regard, but he’s had a great season.”
Upton was the Angels cleanup hitter when the season began, expected to bat between Mike Trout and Albert Pujols. As the year developed, he will end up as the primary No. 5 hitter, behind Trout and Shohei Ohtani. When Pujols is back next year, it seems likely he would hit behind Upton, which could be fifth or sixth, depending on whether Trout is No. 2 or No. 3.
“I guess that’s the plan,” Upton said of having all four hitters healthy in the middle of the lineup. “It didn’t work out for us. Hopefully, next year is a little different.”
Upton has four years left on the contract extension he signed last year, getting an extra year on his deal in exchange for passing on his opt-out. Upton is due to make $18 million next year, and $90 million over the next four years.
He seems to have no regrets about returning to the Angels instead of becoming a free agent.
“This is a great clubhouse,” he said. “We had injuries and didn’t play as well as we wanted to, but people are going to come in prepared again next year to chase our goal of getting to the postseason. I enjoyed the season as much as you could. I enjoy the guys. I enjoy the atmosphere. I’m looking forward to next year.”
ALSO
Matt Shoemaker will start the season finale on Sunday, regardless of whether the game has any playoff implications for the Oakland A’s. Scioscia had a choice of Shoemaker, Felix Peña or even a crew of relievers. He opted against Peña because he’s already thrown 126 innings between the minors and majors, about double what he threw last year as a reliever in the Cubs’ system. Peña finishes his season with a 4.18 ERA, including 4.00 in his 17 starts. Scioscia said Peña “had a great run for us. He learned a lot.”
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#metoo

Would rather listen to Hawk rage about the game he’s announcing then listen to Dontrelle Wllis’s narcissistic commentary about his “Glory Days” 

Scioscia will manage us till we all die.

I believe managers; like great CEO's, can impact the culture of the team or organization's they serve.  I believe Scioscia's greatest contribution to the Angels was the way he and Bill Stoneman transformed the Angels into an organization that believed it could win it all.  He instituted a philosophy and a style of play that helped them be successful for a number of years.  Things like putting pressure on the defense by being aggressive on the bases.  Putting the ball in play, etc.  Teams have different cultures, different philosophies on how to play the game and go about their business.  Much was made about the "Cardinal way" a few years ago.  I think Scioscia developed a specific way he wanted the Angels to play for many years.  That came into conflict with Jerry Dipoto.  It may still be in flux with Billy Eppler (I don't know). 
While I agree that managers might not have a big impact on the day to day actions of their team - I do believe they can set a tone and establish expectations.  They also play in a role in the health and chemistry of a club house.  They have to be good communicators and have the ability to lead a a team.  Scioscia's leadership skills were never more evident then when Nick Adenhart passed away.  He guided that team through a tough season and always made sure no one made Nick's death about the Angels. It was always about Nick and his family.
Managers can have an impact.  They most definitely can.  Does that translate into wins and losses on a daily basis?  I don't know. 

1980-1992

It’s probably more of an evolution of thought type of thing.  My guess is 30 years ago we would have thought a guy like Dee Gordon was a good ball player when he hits .280 and steals 30-50 bases.   Now in a time where we value OBP we see a guy with no power that got on base less than 30% of the time and he has a lot less value.   Well manager opinion has changed as well.  They aren’t unimportant they just aren’t as important as once believed.  I highly doubt there ever was a time when any really smart baseball person thought a manager could win or lose 15-20 games a year.  In a lot of organizations the front office is very involved, the Angels are included in this at some level.  As for why other organizations fire managers, I don’t know other than to save face with the fans, or simply the manager wouldn’t conform to how the front office wanted things done.   Someone mentioned Girardi getting fired, I don’t think that was the case I think they didn’t renew his contract.  So if that’s true I guess we can say Arte fired Mike if he isn’t retained.  Another reason managers get fired is losing the clubhouse.   So to answer your question I have no idea if we will continue to see managers get voted in, hell I don’t even know if it’s sports writers or who it is that votes in managers.