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    Buttercup got a reaction from Angel Oracle in The Athletic: Angels slipped under the luxury tax threshold in 2023   
    That could be big for this offseasons plan. They would be first time tax payers if they sign Ohtani and go over this season. This has a ripple effect for the next several seasons as the penalties grow if you remain over the level for consecutive years. 
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    Buttercup got a reaction from BTH in The Athletic: Angels slipped under the luxury tax threshold in 2023   
    That could be big for this offseasons plan. They would be first time tax payers if they sign Ohtani and go over this season. This has a ripple effect for the next several seasons as the penalties grow if you remain over the level for consecutive years. 
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    Buttercup got a reaction from Torridd in Feinsand: Angels are “very interested” in Blake Snell   
    I get the feeling Arte is going to go all in this winter. Didn’t work out well the first time but this could be like the Albert Pujols and CJ Wilson winter meetings. 
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    Buttercup got a reaction from Taylor in Feinsand: Angels are “very interested” in Blake Snell   
    I get the feeling Arte is going to go all in this winter. Didn’t work out well the first time but this could be like the Albert Pujols and CJ Wilson winter meetings. 
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    Buttercup got a reaction from Angel Oracle in Feinsand: Angels are “very interested” in Blake Snell   
    I get the feeling Arte is going to go all in this winter. Didn’t work out well the first time but this could be like the Albert Pujols and CJ Wilson winter meetings. 
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    Buttercup got a reaction from ten ocho recon scout in Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread   
    I feel that Weaver would have had a similar baffling look to his chart. That deception makes everything play up. When you're talking fractions of a second in reaction time a slightly delayed response due to deception is huge. 
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    Buttercup reacted to Inside Pitch in Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread   
    I looked!


    Dude had nothing other than being 6'7" and being full of piss and vinegar.
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    Buttercup reacted to Redondo in Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread   
    Wow, that's a crazy number
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    Buttercup reacted to ten ocho recon scout in Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread   
    Exactly this 
    This is why we need an old fashioned gentleman's agreement with Shohei. We pay him 1 year $440 million contract. Then he signs a 9 year $9 million dollar one with us the next year.
     
     

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    Buttercup got a reaction from ten ocho recon scout in Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread   
    I’m in agreement that 11 years is absurd (and the teams know it) but I think the landscape has changed and you can no longer look at the years as much as you can total commitment. 
    By tacking on more years teams are significantly reducing the luxury tax they pay on the total contract and therefore narrowing the gap between the cost of a shorter commitment.
    I’d say it’s reasonable to think star players will give your team decent production/value for 5-6 years. 
    If you offered Xander Boegarts 8 years and 250MM you are putting forth a competitive bid and the cost of getting him is expecting you will pay for 2 bad but hopefully not worthless seasons at the end. But, now your luxury tax number is 6.25MM a year higher and you can tack on another few million to his cost for the tax you’ll pay as a team with a payroll above the limit.  It’s also going to make future contracts more difficult if you ever try to get back under the threshold.
    By giving him three extra years you’ve gained the right to him in those declining years as a gamble where he may at least give you some value. It might cost 10MM plus per WAR in the near future and if he’s even a 1 WAR player for those last years it’s not a total loss. But, even if you have to release him you can view those extra 30 - 40MM you spent on him with more years tacked on as a deferred and interest free signing bonus. A bonus which has saved you anywhere from 3-15MM over the course of the 11 years (dependent on how long and which level you run you payroll above the limit) on luxury tax payments. 
    We can all agree on the ridiculous lengths to these contracts but obviously the reasons behind them have been well thought out by the Management and Owners. The gamble is they turn out like Pujols and they decline sharply in years 1 or 2. 
    And if you think baseball contracts are absurd have you seen Ronaldo’s new soccer contract of around $200MM PER YEAR! 
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    Buttercup reacted to Warfarin in Angels sign Carlos Estevez (2 years, $13.5 million)   
    Yeah I have to say, it seems like Perry has gotten some pretty good value.  The deals may still not work out, but on the surface, Anderson and Estevez's contracts look rather good in comparison to the field, and the acquisitions of Urshela and Renfroe have been rather reasonable.
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    Buttercup got a reaction from Warfarin in Angels sign Carlos Estevez (2 years, $13.5 million)   
    Ken Rosenthals article today about the crazy spending so far makes this deal look great. Edwin Diaz $102MM vs this deal at $13.5MM. Obviously a different class of reliever but you can use the difference in a lot of helpful ways. That has to be Perry he mentions in this quote. 
    “The offseason began with Edwin Díazbecoming the highest-paid reliever in history, agreeing to a five-year, $102 million contract with the Mets. Two other relievers, Robert Suárez (five years, $46 million) and Rafael Montero (three years, $34.5 million) followed with inflated deals. One general manager looking for bullpen help was scrambling to meetings with agents on Sunday night, trying to strike a reasonable two-year deal with a quality reliever, and looking rather harried.”
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    Buttercup reacted to AngelsLakersFan in Gameday Thread: Angels vs. Padres (3-21-2021) Ohtani on the mound & leading off!   
    A lot of the DH rules are dumb and actually hurt Ohtani's potential value. 
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    Buttercup reacted to T.G. in The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread   
    Live look at @mmc

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    Buttercup got a reaction from Taylor in Holy Hell, Trevor Bauer!   
    Is Bauer’s agent teasing us here?

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    Buttercup got a reaction from angelsnationtalk in Holy Hell, Trevor Bauer!   
    Is Bauer’s agent teasing us here?

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    Buttercup reacted to Pancake Bear in The Official 2020-2021 Hot Stove Offseason Thread   
    She must've heard Passan's comment also. 😂
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    Buttercup got a reaction from Angel Oracle in Angels sign Jose Quintana (1 year, $8 million)   
    I like this move for the simple reason the Angels are better today than yesterday. I’ll keep hope they’re better tomorrow than today...
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    Buttercup reacted to Chris in Pederson/Stripling deal is DEAD. MOVE ON.   
    This is one of the slower developing trades I can remember in a long while....
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    Buttercup got a reaction from ten ocho recon scout in Pederson/Stripling deal is DEAD. MOVE ON.   
    Also worth considering is the possible qualifying offer Joc could receive at the end of the season. There’s at least some value in that draft pick 
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    Buttercup got a reaction from JBR in Sign Alex Wood or Trade Prospects for a Starting Pitcher?   
    Since a trade hasn’t happened yet I feel the asking prices are sky high. It might be best to sign Wood now and seek a trade during the season. Marsh and other prospects might have gained value at that time as well. More starters are likely to be available once some teams have lost their playoff hopes. 
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    Buttercup got a reaction from John Taylor in SB Nation: (Halos Heaven) Vox Media to Cut 200 Freelancers, Citing California Gig-Worker Law   
    The small mom and pop outfits don’t have the time and resources to fight the obstacles. What the law really does is outsource the work beyond the state. 
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    Buttercup reacted to Jeff Fletcher in Why Can't Any Pitching Metrics Pin Julio Teheran Down?   
    In a lot of cases the predictive stuff is still based on the old concept of FIP, which I think has been pretty thoroughly debunked. The idea that pitchers have no control of the quality of contact simply goes against common sense.
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