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So I'm firmly in the win now mode. Without Trout, the Angels have stayed close enough. Hopefully he's back by August 15th and healthy. Hopefully Rendon is back a week earlier and hopefully they call up Thaiss to replace Suzuki or just add to the bench depth and carry three catchers. They also could promote Adell and basically platoon Upton/Adell/Marsh in the corners when Trout comes back.
They can go with one less reliever. I don't understand with a 6 man rotation why they need 8 relievers too. Honestly if Bundy and Quintana aren't in the rotation and effective they need to be traded cut or put on the IL. If they can add a reliever or two, this would drastically help. The other 6 have their ups and downs, but only  Iglesias has been solid. Wantz and Watson are ok. Cishek and Mayers have disappointed at times but then go through great stretches. Guerra is basically useless. They need 1-2 new guys.
And I keep hearing the "beat up on bad teams" lose to good teams thing, and it's true technically, but important to examine a bit deeper than that.
Angels are
3-0 against Baltimore. 3-0 against Arizona. 1-0 Against Colorado, 3-1 Against the Tigers, 4-2 Against KC and 5-2 against the Twins.
That's 19-5 against the bottom of the league...it's true. Add 5-3 against the Rangers and you get to the 24-8 mark.
But they're also
2-1 Against the Yankees, 3-1 Against the White Sox, 2-1 Against the Dodgers, 2-1 Against the Blue Jays and 3-3 Against the Red Sox. That's 12-7 against some good teams with winning records.
So that would put them at 36-15 against everyone but the Giants, Cleveland, A's, Rays, Mariners and Astros.
Winning records against most of the teams they've played (12 of the 18). They haven't played SD yet which is the only team they play this year that they haven't faced.
Against the Giants they're 1-3. Bundy started the first game in SF and did poorly and the offense didn't help, but they dominated the next game behind an excellent start from Heaney. Then at Home they got jumped on early in another Heaney start, and shut down by the Giants pitcher. Then given the opportunity to even the series, they went into extras tied 1-1, and the 12th both teams scored, and the Angels appeared to win the game and then replay overturned it, and the Giants scored 6 runs to win the game in the 13th.
So 1-3 against the Giants. No more games against the Giants remain.
And in the Cleveland series, they won the first one, and then lost the next two by a run, so the games were all close.
1-2 Against Clevaland.
So against 14 of 18 teams they've gone 38-20. Or 1 game under .667 ball.
They've been really bad against the other 4 teams. 1-6 against the Rays 3-9 against the A's, 3-6 against Houston, and 5-8 against the Mariners.
That's 12-29. That's .293 ball.
They don't play the Rays again. But Quintana sucked in game 1.  Rowan, Guerra and Mayers all spoiled decent starts in games 2, 3 and 4. Canning pitched ok in Game 5 and Suarez gave up the run to tie, then Cobb had a terrible start and Quintana, Quijada, and Guerra were terrible in relief, giving up 13 runs in their 6th loss before finally winning the 7th game.
They've gone 11-23 against the teams in their division with winning records.
Of the 23 losses, they've been against both starters and relievers. They got off to a horrible start playing Houston 9 times in their first 39 games and getting outscored 59-24. They lost 2 of 3 to Seattle in that stretch as well, but scored and allowed 14 runs.
Since that miserable 4-8 intradivision start they've lost Mike Trout for 60 odd games, and gone 3-9 against Oakland and 4-6 against Seattle. Trout has not faced Oakland this year. Trout in his career against Oakland has a .968 OPS WITH 38 HR. Against the Mariners, he has a 1.068 OPS with 47 HR. 7-15 against the AL West division (minus Texas), without Trout.
They've been outscored by the A's 57-36. Of those 57 runs, 31 were allowed by the bullpen, and an additional 9 runs were charged to the starters but were inherited runners allowed to score by our terrible pen.
Seattle's numbers aren't as bad. We've actually outscored them 64-63 despite the record. 24 runs have been scored by the Mariners against the Angels pen, 39 against the starters, so it's been pretty even despite the record.
They have 23 games remaining against the Astros (10), A's (7) and Mariners (6). If the Angels have any chance of making the postseason, they have to win at least 6, 5 and 4 of these. That would be 15-8 to go 9-10, 8-11, and 9-10. They'd finish with a losing record against these three teams, but a much closer one.
It does help that 7 of the 10, 7 of the 7 and 3 of the 6 are at home, 17 of 23. Win 3-1, 2-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-1, at home and hope to go 3-3 in the two road series and it's a done deal 15-8.
Their other 40 games are against the Rockies (2 at home) Rangers (11, 4 at home), Dodgers (3 on road), Toronto (4 at home), Yankees (4, 1 on road, 3 at home), Detroit (3 on road), Cleveland (3 on road), Baltimore (3 on Road), SD (4, 2 at home 2 away), and the White Sox (3 on road).
If they can win these next two against the Rockies, go 8-3 against the Rangers (4-0 at home, 4-3 on road), 2-1 against Dodgers, 3-1 against both Blue Jays and Yankees, Then win 6 of the 9 games against Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore, split with SD and take the White Sox Series in September, they'd end up 28-12 in this group. Add that to the 15-8 and they'd finish at 43-20, And with 93 wins.
Even if they don't manage that pace, which would be a heck of a run, they can still get to the post season with say 39-24 or 37-26 if they win against their division and the Yankees, Bue Jays and Indians.
Finally, I'd say they need some help to do this, mainly bullpen, but also maybe a starter.
It's a long shot, obviously, but not out of the realm of possibility.
 

So I'm firmly in the win now mode. Without Trout, the Angels have stayed close enough. Hopefully he's back by August 15th and healthy. Hopefully Rendon is back a week earlier and hopefully they call up Thaiss to replace Suzuki or just add to the bench depth and carry three catchers. They also could promote Adell and basically platoon Upton/Adell/Marsh in the corners when Trout comes back.
They can go with one less reliever. I don't understand with a 6 man rotation why they need 8 relievers too. Honestly if Bundy and Quintana aren't in the rotation and effective they need to be traded cut or put on the IL. If they can add a reliever or two, this would drastically help. The other 6 have their ups and downs, but only  Iglesias has been solid. Wantz and Watson are ok. Cishek and Mayers have disappointed at times but then go through great stretches. Guerra is basically useless. They need 1-2 new guys.
And I keep hearing the "beat up on bad teams" lose to good teams thing, and it's true technically, but important to examine a bit deeper than that.
Angels are
3-0 against Baltimore. 3-0 against Arizona. 1-0 Against Colorado, 3-1 Against the Tigers, 4-2 Against KC and 5-2 against the Twins.
That's 19-5 against the bottom of the league...it's true. Add 5-3 against the Rangers and you get to the 24-8 mark.
But they're also
2-1 Against the Yankees, 3-1 Against the White Sox, 2-1 Against the Dodgers, 2-1 Against the Blue Jays and 3-3 Against the Red Sox. That's 12-7 against some good teams with winning records.
So that would put them at 36-15 against everyone but the Giants, Cleveland, A's, Rays, Mariners and Astros.
Winning records against most of the teams they've played (12 of the 18). They haven't played SD yet which is the only team they play this year that they haven't faced.
Against the Giants they're 1-3. Bundy started the first game in SF and did poorly and the offense didn't help, but they dominated the next game behind an excellent start from Heaney. Then at Home they got jumped on early in another Heaney start, and shut down by the Giants pitcher. Then given the opportunity to even the series, they went into extras tied 1-1, and the 12th both teams scored, and the Angels appeared to win the game and then replay overturned it, and the Giants scored 6 runs to win the game in the 13th.
So 1-3 against the Giants. No more games against the Giants remain.
And in the Cleveland series, they won the first one, and then lost the next two by a run, so the games were all close.
1-2 Against Clevaland.
So against 14 of 18 teams they've gone 38-20. Or 1 game under .667 ball.
They've been really bad against the other 4 teams. 1-6 against the Rays 3-9 against the A's, 3-6 against Houston, and 5-8 against the Mariners.
That's 12-29. That's .293 ball.
They don't play the Rays again. But Quintana sucked in game 1.  Rowan, Guerra and Mayers all spoiled decent starts in games 2, 3 and 4. Canning pitched ok in Game 5 and Suarez gave up the run to tie, then Cobb had a terrible start and Quintana, Quijada, and Guerra were terrible in relief, giving up 13 runs in their 6th loss before finally winning the 7th game.
They've gone 11-23 against the teams in their division with winning records.
Of the 23 losses, they've been against both starters and relievers. They got off to a horrible start playing Houston 9 times in their first 39 games and getting outscored 59-24. They lost 2 of 3 to Seattle in that stretch as well, but scored and allowed 14 runs.
Since that miserable 4-8 intradivision start they've lost Mike Trout for 60 odd games, and gone 3-9 against Oakland and 4-6 against Seattle. Trout has not faced Oakland this year. Trout in his career against Oakland has a .968 OPS WITH 38 HR. Against the Mariners, he has a 1.068 OPS with 47 HR. 7-15 against the AL West division (minus Texas), without Trout.
They've been outscored by the A's 57-36. Of those 57 runs, 31 were allowed by the bullpen, and an additional 9 runs were charged to the starters but were inherited runners allowed to score by our terrible pen.
Seattle's numbers aren't as bad. We've actually outscored them 64-63 despite the record. 24 runs have been scored by the Mariners against the Angels pen, 39 against the starters, so it's been pretty even despite the record.
They have 23 games remaining against the Astros (10), A's (7) and Mariners (6). If the Angels have any chance of making the postseason, they have to win at least 6, 5 and 4 of these. That would be 15-8 to go 9-10, 8-11, and 9-10. They'd finish with a losing record against these three teams, but a much closer one.
It does help that 7 of the 10, 7 of the 7 and 3 of the 6 are at home, 17 of 23. Win 3-1, 2-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-1, at home and hope to go 3-3 in the two road series and it's a done deal 15-8.
Their other 40 games are against the Rockies (2 at home) Rangers (11, 4 at home), Dodgers (3 on road), Toronto (4 at home), Yankees (4, 1 on road, 3 at home), Detroit (3 on road), Cleveland (3 on road), Baltimore (3 on Road), SD (4, 2 at home 2 away), and the White Sox (3 on road).
If they can win these next two against the Rockies, go 8-3 against the Rangers (4-0 at home, 4-3 on road), 2-1 against Dodgers, 3-1 against both Blue Jays and Yankees, Then win 6 of the 9 games against Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore, split with SD and take the White Sox Series in September, they'd end up 28-12 in this group. Add that to the 15-8 and they'd finish at 43-20, And with 93 wins.
Even if they don't manage that pace, which would be a heck of a run, they can still get to the post season with say 39-24 or 37-26 if they win against their division and the Yankees, Bue Jays and Indians.
Finally, I'd say they need some help to do this, mainly bullpen, but also maybe a starter.
It's a long shot, obviously, but not out of the realm of possibility.
 

Yeah I mean I know it was very optimistic. But even say 40-23 (which is a 103 win pace) might get them in the playoffs. The key is the 15-8 or say 14-9 against the division (minus Texas). They have to start beating those three teams or the rest is moot.
if they went 40-0 against the other teams and 0-23 against the Astros, Mariners and A’s they still likely wouldn’t make the playoffs with the 90 wins as they would if they can somehow even up the season series’s with these three. 
And for the record, they’re 26-14 in their last 40 games in which they didn’t play the A’s and that’s at that pace. Lol. 😂 

Yeah I mean I know it was very optimistic. But even say 40-23 (which is a 103 win pace) might get them in the playoffs. The key is the 15-8 or say 14-9 against the division (minus Texas). They have to start beating those three teams or the rest is moot.
if they went 40-0 against the other teams and 0-23 against the Astros, Mariners and A’s they still likely wouldn’t make the playoffs with the 90 wins as they would if they can somehow even up the season series’s with these three. 
And for the record, they’re 26-14 in their last 40 games in which they didn’t play the A’s and that’s at that pace. Lol. 😂 

So I'm firmly in the win now mode. Without Trout, the Angels have stayed close enough. Hopefully he's back by August 15th and healthy. Hopefully Rendon is back a week earlier and hopefully they call up Thaiss to replace Suzuki or just add to the bench depth and carry three catchers. They also could promote Adell and basically platoon Upton/Adell/Marsh in the corners when Trout comes back.
They can go with one less reliever. I don't understand with a 6 man rotation why they need 8 relievers too. Honestly if Bundy and Quintana aren't in the rotation and effective they need to be traded cut or put on the IL. If they can add a reliever or two, this would drastically help. The other 6 have their ups and downs, but only  Iglesias has been solid. Wantz and Watson are ok. Cishek and Mayers have disappointed at times but then go through great stretches. Guerra is basically useless. They need 1-2 new guys.
And I keep hearing the "beat up on bad teams" lose to good teams thing, and it's true technically, but important to examine a bit deeper than that.
Angels are
3-0 against Baltimore. 3-0 against Arizona. 1-0 Against Colorado, 3-1 Against the Tigers, 4-2 Against KC and 5-2 against the Twins.
That's 19-5 against the bottom of the league...it's true. Add 5-3 against the Rangers and you get to the 24-8 mark.
But they're also
2-1 Against the Yankees, 3-1 Against the White Sox, 2-1 Against the Dodgers, 2-1 Against the Blue Jays and 3-3 Against the Red Sox. That's 12-7 against some good teams with winning records.
So that would put them at 36-15 against everyone but the Giants, Cleveland, A's, Rays, Mariners and Astros.
Winning records against most of the teams they've played (12 of the 18). They haven't played SD yet which is the only team they play this year that they haven't faced.
Against the Giants they're 1-3. Bundy started the first game in SF and did poorly and the offense didn't help, but they dominated the next game behind an excellent start from Heaney. Then at Home they got jumped on early in another Heaney start, and shut down by the Giants pitcher. Then given the opportunity to even the series, they went into extras tied 1-1, and the 12th both teams scored, and the Angels appeared to win the game and then replay overturned it, and the Giants scored 6 runs to win the game in the 13th.
So 1-3 against the Giants. No more games against the Giants remain.
And in the Cleveland series, they won the first one, and then lost the next two by a run, so the games were all close.
1-2 Against Clevaland.
So against 14 of 18 teams they've gone 38-20. Or 1 game under .667 ball.
They've been really bad against the other 4 teams. 1-6 against the Rays 3-9 against the A's, 3-6 against Houston, and 5-8 against the Mariners.
That's 12-29. That's .293 ball.
They don't play the Rays again. But Quintana sucked in game 1.  Rowan, Guerra and Mayers all spoiled decent starts in games 2, 3 and 4. Canning pitched ok in Game 5 and Suarez gave up the run to tie, then Cobb had a terrible start and Quintana, Quijada, and Guerra were terrible in relief, giving up 13 runs in their 6th loss before finally winning the 7th game.
They've gone 11-23 against the teams in their division with winning records.
Of the 23 losses, they've been against both starters and relievers. They got off to a horrible start playing Houston 9 times in their first 39 games and getting outscored 59-24. They lost 2 of 3 to Seattle in that stretch as well, but scored and allowed 14 runs.
Since that miserable 4-8 intradivision start they've lost Mike Trout for 60 odd games, and gone 3-9 against Oakland and 4-6 against Seattle. Trout has not faced Oakland this year. Trout in his career against Oakland has a .968 OPS WITH 38 HR. Against the Mariners, he has a 1.068 OPS with 47 HR. 7-15 against the AL West division (minus Texas), without Trout.
They've been outscored by the A's 57-36. Of those 57 runs, 31 were allowed by the bullpen, and an additional 9 runs were charged to the starters but were inherited runners allowed to score by our terrible pen.
Seattle's numbers aren't as bad. We've actually outscored them 64-63 despite the record. 24 runs have been scored by the Mariners against the Angels pen, 39 against the starters, so it's been pretty even despite the record.
They have 23 games remaining against the Astros (10), A's (7) and Mariners (6). If the Angels have any chance of making the postseason, they have to win at least 6, 5 and 4 of these. That would be 15-8 to go 9-10, 8-11, and 9-10. They'd finish with a losing record against these three teams, but a much closer one.
It does help that 7 of the 10, 7 of the 7 and 3 of the 6 are at home, 17 of 23. Win 3-1, 2-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-1, at home and hope to go 3-3 in the two road series and it's a done deal 15-8.
Their other 40 games are against the Rockies (2 at home) Rangers (11, 4 at home), Dodgers (3 on road), Toronto (4 at home), Yankees (4, 1 on road, 3 at home), Detroit (3 on road), Cleveland (3 on road), Baltimore (3 on Road), SD (4, 2 at home 2 away), and the White Sox (3 on road).
If they can win these next two against the Rockies, go 8-3 against the Rangers (4-0 at home, 4-3 on road), 2-1 against Dodgers, 3-1 against both Blue Jays and Yankees, Then win 6 of the 9 games against Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore, split with SD and take the White Sox Series in September, they'd end up 28-12 in this group. Add that to the 15-8 and they'd finish at 43-20, And with 93 wins.
Even if they don't manage that pace, which would be a heck of a run, they can still get to the post season with say 39-24 or 37-26 if they win against their division and the Yankees, Bue Jays and Indians.
Finally, I'd say they need some help to do this, mainly bullpen, but also maybe a starter.
It's a long shot, obviously, but not out of the realm of possibility.
 

This is also not true. They’re really really bad against three teams and have been really good against the others. They’re 1-6 against the Rays and 3-6 against the Astros and 3-9 against the A’s. That’s a 7-21 record.
They’re 15 games over against everyone else including Dodgers, Blue Jays, White Sox, and yes against all the bad teams. 

This is also not true. They’re really really bad against three teams and have been really good against the others. They’re 1-6 against the Rays and 3-6 against the Astros and 3-9 against the A’s. That’s a 7-21 record.
They’re 15 games over against everyone else including Dodgers, Blue Jays, White Sox, and yes against all the bad teams. 

So I'm firmly in the win now mode. Without Trout, the Angels have stayed close enough. Hopefully he's back by August 15th and healthy. Hopefully Rendon is back a week earlier and hopefully they call up Thaiss to replace Suzuki or just add to the bench depth and carry three catchers. They also could promote Adell and basically platoon Upton/Adell/Marsh in the corners when Trout comes back.
They can go with one less reliever. I don't understand with a 6 man rotation why they need 8 relievers too. Honestly if Bundy and Quintana aren't in the rotation and effective they need to be traded cut or put on the IL. If they can add a reliever or two, this would drastically help. The other 6 have their ups and downs, but only  Iglesias has been solid. Wantz and Watson are ok. Cishek and Mayers have disappointed at times but then go through great stretches. Guerra is basically useless. They need 1-2 new guys.
And I keep hearing the "beat up on bad teams" lose to good teams thing, and it's true technically, but important to examine a bit deeper than that.
Angels are
3-0 against Baltimore. 3-0 against Arizona. 1-0 Against Colorado, 3-1 Against the Tigers, 4-2 Against KC and 5-2 against the Twins.
That's 19-5 against the bottom of the league...it's true. Add 5-3 against the Rangers and you get to the 24-8 mark.
But they're also
2-1 Against the Yankees, 3-1 Against the White Sox, 2-1 Against the Dodgers, 2-1 Against the Blue Jays and 3-3 Against the Red Sox. That's 12-7 against some good teams with winning records.
So that would put them at 36-15 against everyone but the Giants, Cleveland, A's, Rays, Mariners and Astros.
Winning records against most of the teams they've played (12 of the 18). They haven't played SD yet which is the only team they play this year that they haven't faced.
Against the Giants they're 1-3. Bundy started the first game in SF and did poorly and the offense didn't help, but they dominated the next game behind an excellent start from Heaney. Then at Home they got jumped on early in another Heaney start, and shut down by the Giants pitcher. Then given the opportunity to even the series, they went into extras tied 1-1, and the 12th both teams scored, and the Angels appeared to win the game and then replay overturned it, and the Giants scored 6 runs to win the game in the 13th.
So 1-3 against the Giants. No more games against the Giants remain.
And in the Cleveland series, they won the first one, and then lost the next two by a run, so the games were all close.
1-2 Against Clevaland.
So against 14 of 18 teams they've gone 38-20. Or 1 game under .667 ball.
They've been really bad against the other 4 teams. 1-6 against the Rays 3-9 against the A's, 3-6 against Houston, and 5-8 against the Mariners.
That's 12-29. That's .293 ball.
They don't play the Rays again. But Quintana sucked in game 1.  Rowan, Guerra and Mayers all spoiled decent starts in games 2, 3 and 4. Canning pitched ok in Game 5 and Suarez gave up the run to tie, then Cobb had a terrible start and Quintana, Quijada, and Guerra were terrible in relief, giving up 13 runs in their 6th loss before finally winning the 7th game.
They've gone 11-23 against the teams in their division with winning records.
Of the 23 losses, they've been against both starters and relievers. They got off to a horrible start playing Houston 9 times in their first 39 games and getting outscored 59-24. They lost 2 of 3 to Seattle in that stretch as well, but scored and allowed 14 runs.
Since that miserable 4-8 intradivision start they've lost Mike Trout for 60 odd games, and gone 3-9 against Oakland and 4-6 against Seattle. Trout has not faced Oakland this year. Trout in his career against Oakland has a .968 OPS WITH 38 HR. Against the Mariners, he has a 1.068 OPS with 47 HR. 7-15 against the AL West division (minus Texas), without Trout.
They've been outscored by the A's 57-36. Of those 57 runs, 31 were allowed by the bullpen, and an additional 9 runs were charged to the starters but were inherited runners allowed to score by our terrible pen.
Seattle's numbers aren't as bad. We've actually outscored them 64-63 despite the record. 24 runs have been scored by the Mariners against the Angels pen, 39 against the starters, so it's been pretty even despite the record.
They have 23 games remaining against the Astros (10), A's (7) and Mariners (6). If the Angels have any chance of making the postseason, they have to win at least 6, 5 and 4 of these. That would be 15-8 to go 9-10, 8-11, and 9-10. They'd finish with a losing record against these three teams, but a much closer one.
It does help that 7 of the 10, 7 of the 7 and 3 of the 6 are at home, 17 of 23. Win 3-1, 2-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-1, at home and hope to go 3-3 in the two road series and it's a done deal 15-8.
Their other 40 games are against the Rockies (2 at home) Rangers (11, 4 at home), Dodgers (3 on road), Toronto (4 at home), Yankees (4, 1 on road, 3 at home), Detroit (3 on road), Cleveland (3 on road), Baltimore (3 on Road), SD (4, 2 at home 2 away), and the White Sox (3 on road).
If they can win these next two against the Rockies, go 8-3 against the Rangers (4-0 at home, 4-3 on road), 2-1 against Dodgers, 3-1 against both Blue Jays and Yankees, Then win 6 of the 9 games against Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore, split with SD and take the White Sox Series in September, they'd end up 28-12 in this group. Add that to the 15-8 and they'd finish at 43-20, And with 93 wins.
Even if they don't manage that pace, which would be a heck of a run, they can still get to the post season with say 39-24 or 37-26 if they win against their division and the Yankees, Bue Jays and Indians.
Finally, I'd say they need some help to do this, mainly bullpen, but also maybe a starter.
It's a long shot, obviously, but not out of the realm of possibility.
 

So I'm firmly in the win now mode. Without Trout, the Angels have stayed close enough. Hopefully he's back by August 15th and healthy. Hopefully Rendon is back a week earlier and hopefully they call up Thaiss to replace Suzuki or just add to the bench depth and carry three catchers. They also could promote Adell and basically platoon Upton/Adell/Marsh in the corners when Trout comes back.
They can go with one less reliever. I don't understand with a 6 man rotation why they need 8 relievers too. Honestly if Bundy and Quintana aren't in the rotation and effective they need to be traded cut or put on the IL. If they can add a reliever or two, this would drastically help. The other 6 have their ups and downs, but only  Iglesias has been solid. Wantz and Watson are ok. Cishek and Mayers have disappointed at times but then go through great stretches. Guerra is basically useless. They need 1-2 new guys.
And I keep hearing the "beat up on bad teams" lose to good teams thing, and it's true technically, but important to examine a bit deeper than that.
Angels are
3-0 against Baltimore. 3-0 against Arizona. 1-0 Against Colorado, 3-1 Against the Tigers, 4-2 Against KC and 5-2 against the Twins.
That's 19-5 against the bottom of the league...it's true. Add 5-3 against the Rangers and you get to the 24-8 mark.
But they're also
2-1 Against the Yankees, 3-1 Against the White Sox, 2-1 Against the Dodgers, 2-1 Against the Blue Jays and 3-3 Against the Red Sox. That's 12-7 against some good teams with winning records.
So that would put them at 36-15 against everyone but the Giants, Cleveland, A's, Rays, Mariners and Astros.
Winning records against most of the teams they've played (12 of the 18). They haven't played SD yet which is the only team they play this year that they haven't faced.
Against the Giants they're 1-3. Bundy started the first game in SF and did poorly and the offense didn't help, but they dominated the next game behind an excellent start from Heaney. Then at Home they got jumped on early in another Heaney start, and shut down by the Giants pitcher. Then given the opportunity to even the series, they went into extras tied 1-1, and the 12th both teams scored, and the Angels appeared to win the game and then replay overturned it, and the Giants scored 6 runs to win the game in the 13th.
So 1-3 against the Giants. No more games against the Giants remain.
And in the Cleveland series, they won the first one, and then lost the next two by a run, so the games were all close.
1-2 Against Clevaland.
So against 14 of 18 teams they've gone 38-20. Or 1 game under .667 ball.
They've been really bad against the other 4 teams. 1-6 against the Rays 3-9 against the A's, 3-6 against Houston, and 5-8 against the Mariners.
That's 12-29. That's .293 ball.
They don't play the Rays again. But Quintana sucked in game 1.  Rowan, Guerra and Mayers all spoiled decent starts in games 2, 3 and 4. Canning pitched ok in Game 5 and Suarez gave up the run to tie, then Cobb had a terrible start and Quintana, Quijada, and Guerra were terrible in relief, giving up 13 runs in their 6th loss before finally winning the 7th game.
They've gone 11-23 against the teams in their division with winning records.
Of the 23 losses, they've been against both starters and relievers. They got off to a horrible start playing Houston 9 times in their first 39 games and getting outscored 59-24. They lost 2 of 3 to Seattle in that stretch as well, but scored and allowed 14 runs.
Since that miserable 4-8 intradivision start they've lost Mike Trout for 60 odd games, and gone 3-9 against Oakland and 4-6 against Seattle. Trout has not faced Oakland this year. Trout in his career against Oakland has a .968 OPS WITH 38 HR. Against the Mariners, he has a 1.068 OPS with 47 HR. 7-15 against the AL West division (minus Texas), without Trout.
They've been outscored by the A's 57-36. Of those 57 runs, 31 were allowed by the bullpen, and an additional 9 runs were charged to the starters but were inherited runners allowed to score by our terrible pen.
Seattle's numbers aren't as bad. We've actually outscored them 64-63 despite the record. 24 runs have been scored by the Mariners against the Angels pen, 39 against the starters, so it's been pretty even despite the record.
They have 23 games remaining against the Astros (10), A's (7) and Mariners (6). If the Angels have any chance of making the postseason, they have to win at least 6, 5 and 4 of these. That would be 15-8 to go 9-10, 8-11, and 9-10. They'd finish with a losing record against these three teams, but a much closer one.
It does help that 7 of the 10, 7 of the 7 and 3 of the 6 are at home, 17 of 23. Win 3-1, 2-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-1, at home and hope to go 3-3 in the two road series and it's a done deal 15-8.
Their other 40 games are against the Rockies (2 at home) Rangers (11, 4 at home), Dodgers (3 on road), Toronto (4 at home), Yankees (4, 1 on road, 3 at home), Detroit (3 on road), Cleveland (3 on road), Baltimore (3 on Road), SD (4, 2 at home 2 away), and the White Sox (3 on road).
If they can win these next two against the Rockies, go 8-3 against the Rangers (4-0 at home, 4-3 on road), 2-1 against Dodgers, 3-1 against both Blue Jays and Yankees, Then win 6 of the 9 games against Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore, split with SD and take the White Sox Series in September, they'd end up 28-12 in this group. Add that to the 15-8 and they'd finish at 43-20, And with 93 wins.
Even if they don't manage that pace, which would be a heck of a run, they can still get to the post season with say 39-24 or 37-26 if they win against their division and the Yankees, Bue Jays and Indians.
Finally, I'd say they need some help to do this, mainly bullpen, but also maybe a starter.
It's a long shot, obviously, but not out of the realm of possibility.
 

So I'm firmly in the win now mode. Without Trout, the Angels have stayed close enough. Hopefully he's back by August 15th and healthy. Hopefully Rendon is back a week earlier and hopefully they call up Thaiss to replace Suzuki or just add to the bench depth and carry three catchers. They also could promote Adell and basically platoon Upton/Adell/Marsh in the corners when Trout comes back.
They can go with one less reliever. I don't understand with a 6 man rotation why they need 8 relievers too. Honestly if Bundy and Quintana aren't in the rotation and effective they need to be traded cut or put on the IL. If they can add a reliever or two, this would drastically help. The other 6 have their ups and downs, but only  Iglesias has been solid. Wantz and Watson are ok. Cishek and Mayers have disappointed at times but then go through great stretches. Guerra is basically useless. They need 1-2 new guys.
And I keep hearing the "beat up on bad teams" lose to good teams thing, and it's true technically, but important to examine a bit deeper than that.
Angels are
3-0 against Baltimore. 3-0 against Arizona. 1-0 Against Colorado, 3-1 Against the Tigers, 4-2 Against KC and 5-2 against the Twins.
That's 19-5 against the bottom of the league...it's true. Add 5-3 against the Rangers and you get to the 24-8 mark.
But they're also
2-1 Against the Yankees, 3-1 Against the White Sox, 2-1 Against the Dodgers, 2-1 Against the Blue Jays and 3-3 Against the Red Sox. That's 12-7 against some good teams with winning records.
So that would put them at 36-15 against everyone but the Giants, Cleveland, A's, Rays, Mariners and Astros.
Winning records against most of the teams they've played (12 of the 18). They haven't played SD yet which is the only team they play this year that they haven't faced.
Against the Giants they're 1-3. Bundy started the first game in SF and did poorly and the offense didn't help, but they dominated the next game behind an excellent start from Heaney. Then at Home they got jumped on early in another Heaney start, and shut down by the Giants pitcher. Then given the opportunity to even the series, they went into extras tied 1-1, and the 12th both teams scored, and the Angels appeared to win the game and then replay overturned it, and the Giants scored 6 runs to win the game in the 13th.
So 1-3 against the Giants. No more games against the Giants remain.
And in the Cleveland series, they won the first one, and then lost the next two by a run, so the games were all close.
1-2 Against Clevaland.
So against 14 of 18 teams they've gone 38-20. Or 1 game under .667 ball.
They've been really bad against the other 4 teams. 1-6 against the Rays 3-9 against the A's, 3-6 against Houston, and 5-8 against the Mariners.
That's 12-29. That's .293 ball.
They don't play the Rays again. But Quintana sucked in game 1.  Rowan, Guerra and Mayers all spoiled decent starts in games 2, 3 and 4. Canning pitched ok in Game 5 and Suarez gave up the run to tie, then Cobb had a terrible start and Quintana, Quijada, and Guerra were terrible in relief, giving up 13 runs in their 6th loss before finally winning the 7th game.
They've gone 11-23 against the teams in their division with winning records.
Of the 23 losses, they've been against both starters and relievers. They got off to a horrible start playing Houston 9 times in their first 39 games and getting outscored 59-24. They lost 2 of 3 to Seattle in that stretch as well, but scored and allowed 14 runs.
Since that miserable 4-8 intradivision start they've lost Mike Trout for 60 odd games, and gone 3-9 against Oakland and 4-6 against Seattle. Trout has not faced Oakland this year. Trout in his career against Oakland has a .968 OPS WITH 38 HR. Against the Mariners, he has a 1.068 OPS with 47 HR. 7-15 against the AL West division (minus Texas), without Trout.
They've been outscored by the A's 57-36. Of those 57 runs, 31 were allowed by the bullpen, and an additional 9 runs were charged to the starters but were inherited runners allowed to score by our terrible pen.
Seattle's numbers aren't as bad. We've actually outscored them 64-63 despite the record. 24 runs have been scored by the Mariners against the Angels pen, 39 against the starters, so it's been pretty even despite the record.
They have 23 games remaining against the Astros (10), A's (7) and Mariners (6). If the Angels have any chance of making the postseason, they have to win at least 6, 5 and 4 of these. That would be 15-8 to go 9-10, 8-11, and 9-10. They'd finish with a losing record against these three teams, but a much closer one.
It does help that 7 of the 10, 7 of the 7 and 3 of the 6 are at home, 17 of 23. Win 3-1, 2-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-1, at home and hope to go 3-3 in the two road series and it's a done deal 15-8.
Their other 40 games are against the Rockies (2 at home) Rangers (11, 4 at home), Dodgers (3 on road), Toronto (4 at home), Yankees (4, 1 on road, 3 at home), Detroit (3 on road), Cleveland (3 on road), Baltimore (3 on Road), SD (4, 2 at home 2 away), and the White Sox (3 on road).
If they can win these next two against the Rockies, go 8-3 against the Rangers (4-0 at home, 4-3 on road), 2-1 against Dodgers, 3-1 against both Blue Jays and Yankees, Then win 6 of the 9 games against Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore, split with SD and take the White Sox Series in September, they'd end up 28-12 in this group. Add that to the 15-8 and they'd finish at 43-20, And with 93 wins.
Even if they don't manage that pace, which would be a heck of a run, they can still get to the post season with say 39-24 or 37-26 if they win against their division and the Yankees, Bue Jays and Indians.
Finally, I'd say they need some help to do this, mainly bullpen, but also maybe a starter.
It's a long shot, obviously, but not out of the realm of possibility.
 

So I'm firmly in the win now mode. Without Trout, the Angels have stayed close enough. Hopefully he's back by August 15th and healthy. Hopefully Rendon is back a week earlier and hopefully they call up Thaiss to replace Suzuki or just add to the bench depth and carry three catchers. They also could promote Adell and basically platoon Upton/Adell/Marsh in the corners when Trout comes back.
They can go with one less reliever. I don't understand with a 6 man rotation why they need 8 relievers too. Honestly if Bundy and Quintana aren't in the rotation and effective they need to be traded cut or put on the IL. If they can add a reliever or two, this would drastically help. The other 6 have their ups and downs, but only  Iglesias has been solid. Wantz and Watson are ok. Cishek and Mayers have disappointed at times but then go through great stretches. Guerra is basically useless. They need 1-2 new guys.
And I keep hearing the "beat up on bad teams" lose to good teams thing, and it's true technically, but important to examine a bit deeper than that.
Angels are
3-0 against Baltimore. 3-0 against Arizona. 1-0 Against Colorado, 3-1 Against the Tigers, 4-2 Against KC and 5-2 against the Twins.
That's 19-5 against the bottom of the league...it's true. Add 5-3 against the Rangers and you get to the 24-8 mark.
But they're also
2-1 Against the Yankees, 3-1 Against the White Sox, 2-1 Against the Dodgers, 2-1 Against the Blue Jays and 3-3 Against the Red Sox. That's 12-7 against some good teams with winning records.
So that would put them at 36-15 against everyone but the Giants, Cleveland, A's, Rays, Mariners and Astros.
Winning records against most of the teams they've played (12 of the 18). They haven't played SD yet which is the only team they play this year that they haven't faced.
Against the Giants they're 1-3. Bundy started the first game in SF and did poorly and the offense didn't help, but they dominated the next game behind an excellent start from Heaney. Then at Home they got jumped on early in another Heaney start, and shut down by the Giants pitcher. Then given the opportunity to even the series, they went into extras tied 1-1, and the 12th both teams scored, and the Angels appeared to win the game and then replay overturned it, and the Giants scored 6 runs to win the game in the 13th.
So 1-3 against the Giants. No more games against the Giants remain.
And in the Cleveland series, they won the first one, and then lost the next two by a run, so the games were all close.
1-2 Against Clevaland.
So against 14 of 18 teams they've gone 38-20. Or 1 game under .667 ball.
They've been really bad against the other 4 teams. 1-6 against the Rays 3-9 against the A's, 3-6 against Houston, and 5-8 against the Mariners.
That's 12-29. That's .293 ball.
They don't play the Rays again. But Quintana sucked in game 1.  Rowan, Guerra and Mayers all spoiled decent starts in games 2, 3 and 4. Canning pitched ok in Game 5 and Suarez gave up the run to tie, then Cobb had a terrible start and Quintana, Quijada, and Guerra were terrible in relief, giving up 13 runs in their 6th loss before finally winning the 7th game.
They've gone 11-23 against the teams in their division with winning records.
Of the 23 losses, they've been against both starters and relievers. They got off to a horrible start playing Houston 9 times in their first 39 games and getting outscored 59-24. They lost 2 of 3 to Seattle in that stretch as well, but scored and allowed 14 runs.
Since that miserable 4-8 intradivision start they've lost Mike Trout for 60 odd games, and gone 3-9 against Oakland and 4-6 against Seattle. Trout has not faced Oakland this year. Trout in his career against Oakland has a .968 OPS WITH 38 HR. Against the Mariners, he has a 1.068 OPS with 47 HR. 7-15 against the AL West division (minus Texas), without Trout.
They've been outscored by the A's 57-36. Of those 57 runs, 31 were allowed by the bullpen, and an additional 9 runs were charged to the starters but were inherited runners allowed to score by our terrible pen.
Seattle's numbers aren't as bad. We've actually outscored them 64-63 despite the record. 24 runs have been scored by the Mariners against the Angels pen, 39 against the starters, so it's been pretty even despite the record.
They have 23 games remaining against the Astros (10), A's (7) and Mariners (6). If the Angels have any chance of making the postseason, they have to win at least 6, 5 and 4 of these. That would be 15-8 to go 9-10, 8-11, and 9-10. They'd finish with a losing record against these three teams, but a much closer one.
It does help that 7 of the 10, 7 of the 7 and 3 of the 6 are at home, 17 of 23. Win 3-1, 2-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-1, at home and hope to go 3-3 in the two road series and it's a done deal 15-8.
Their other 40 games are against the Rockies (2 at home) Rangers (11, 4 at home), Dodgers (3 on road), Toronto (4 at home), Yankees (4, 1 on road, 3 at home), Detroit (3 on road), Cleveland (3 on road), Baltimore (3 on Road), SD (4, 2 at home 2 away), and the White Sox (3 on road).
If they can win these next two against the Rockies, go 8-3 against the Rangers (4-0 at home, 4-3 on road), 2-1 against Dodgers, 3-1 against both Blue Jays and Yankees, Then win 6 of the 9 games against Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore, split with SD and take the White Sox Series in September, they'd end up 28-12 in this group. Add that to the 15-8 and they'd finish at 43-20, And with 93 wins.
Even if they don't manage that pace, which would be a heck of a run, they can still get to the post season with say 39-24 or 37-26 if they win against their division and the Yankees, Bue Jays and Indians.
Finally, I'd say they need some help to do this, mainly bullpen, but also maybe a starter.
It's a long shot, obviously, but not out of the realm of possibility.
 

So I'm firmly in the win now mode. Without Trout, the Angels have stayed close enough. Hopefully he's back by August 15th and healthy. Hopefully Rendon is back a week earlier and hopefully they call up Thaiss to replace Suzuki or just add to the bench depth and carry three catchers. They also could promote Adell and basically platoon Upton/Adell/Marsh in the corners when Trout comes back.
They can go with one less reliever. I don't understand with a 6 man rotation why they need 8 relievers too. Honestly if Bundy and Quintana aren't in the rotation and effective they need to be traded cut or put on the IL. If they can add a reliever or two, this would drastically help. The other 6 have their ups and downs, but only  Iglesias has been solid. Wantz and Watson are ok. Cishek and Mayers have disappointed at times but then go through great stretches. Guerra is basically useless. They need 1-2 new guys.
And I keep hearing the "beat up on bad teams" lose to good teams thing, and it's true technically, but important to examine a bit deeper than that.
Angels are
3-0 against Baltimore. 3-0 against Arizona. 1-0 Against Colorado, 3-1 Against the Tigers, 4-2 Against KC and 5-2 against the Twins.
That's 19-5 against the bottom of the league...it's true. Add 5-3 against the Rangers and you get to the 24-8 mark.
But they're also
2-1 Against the Yankees, 3-1 Against the White Sox, 2-1 Against the Dodgers, 2-1 Against the Blue Jays and 3-3 Against the Red Sox. That's 12-7 against some good teams with winning records.
So that would put them at 36-15 against everyone but the Giants, Cleveland, A's, Rays, Mariners and Astros.
Winning records against most of the teams they've played (12 of the 18). They haven't played SD yet which is the only team they play this year that they haven't faced.
Against the Giants they're 1-3. Bundy started the first game in SF and did poorly and the offense didn't help, but they dominated the next game behind an excellent start from Heaney. Then at Home they got jumped on early in another Heaney start, and shut down by the Giants pitcher. Then given the opportunity to even the series, they went into extras tied 1-1, and the 12th both teams scored, and the Angels appeared to win the game and then replay overturned it, and the Giants scored 6 runs to win the game in the 13th.
So 1-3 against the Giants. No more games against the Giants remain.
And in the Cleveland series, they won the first one, and then lost the next two by a run, so the games were all close.
1-2 Against Clevaland.
So against 14 of 18 teams they've gone 38-20. Or 1 game under .667 ball.
They've been really bad against the other 4 teams. 1-6 against the Rays 3-9 against the A's, 3-6 against Houston, and 5-8 against the Mariners.
That's 12-29. That's .293 ball.
They don't play the Rays again. But Quintana sucked in game 1.  Rowan, Guerra and Mayers all spoiled decent starts in games 2, 3 and 4. Canning pitched ok in Game 5 and Suarez gave up the run to tie, then Cobb had a terrible start and Quintana, Quijada, and Guerra were terrible in relief, giving up 13 runs in their 6th loss before finally winning the 7th game.
They've gone 11-23 against the teams in their division with winning records.
Of the 23 losses, they've been against both starters and relievers. They got off to a horrible start playing Houston 9 times in their first 39 games and getting outscored 59-24. They lost 2 of 3 to Seattle in that stretch as well, but scored and allowed 14 runs.
Since that miserable 4-8 intradivision start they've lost Mike Trout for 60 odd games, and gone 3-9 against Oakland and 4-6 against Seattle. Trout has not faced Oakland this year. Trout in his career against Oakland has a .968 OPS WITH 38 HR. Against the Mariners, he has a 1.068 OPS with 47 HR. 7-15 against the AL West division (minus Texas), without Trout.
They've been outscored by the A's 57-36. Of those 57 runs, 31 were allowed by the bullpen, and an additional 9 runs were charged to the starters but were inherited runners allowed to score by our terrible pen.
Seattle's numbers aren't as bad. We've actually outscored them 64-63 despite the record. 24 runs have been scored by the Mariners against the Angels pen, 39 against the starters, so it's been pretty even despite the record.
They have 23 games remaining against the Astros (10), A's (7) and Mariners (6). If the Angels have any chance of making the postseason, they have to win at least 6, 5 and 4 of these. That would be 15-8 to go 9-10, 8-11, and 9-10. They'd finish with a losing record against these three teams, but a much closer one.
It does help that 7 of the 10, 7 of the 7 and 3 of the 6 are at home, 17 of 23. Win 3-1, 2-1, 2-1, 3-1, 2-1, at home and hope to go 3-3 in the two road series and it's a done deal 15-8.
Their other 40 games are against the Rockies (2 at home) Rangers (11, 4 at home), Dodgers (3 on road), Toronto (4 at home), Yankees (4, 1 on road, 3 at home), Detroit (3 on road), Cleveland (3 on road), Baltimore (3 on Road), SD (4, 2 at home 2 away), and the White Sox (3 on road).
If they can win these next two against the Rockies, go 8-3 against the Rangers (4-0 at home, 4-3 on road), 2-1 against Dodgers, 3-1 against both Blue Jays and Yankees, Then win 6 of the 9 games against Detroit, Cleveland and Baltimore, split with SD and take the White Sox Series in September, they'd end up 28-12 in this group. Add that to the 15-8 and they'd finish at 43-20, And with 93 wins.
Even if they don't manage that pace, which would be a heck of a run, they can still get to the post season with say 39-24 or 37-26 if they win against their division and the Yankees, Bue Jays and Indians.
Finally, I'd say they need some help to do this, mainly bullpen, but also maybe a starter.
It's a long shot, obviously, but not out of the realm of possibility.
 

They paid Cobb $5 of the 15, and Fowler 1.75 of his 14. It's not signifcant savings. And MadBum has $50M guaranteed after this year and a 5.09 ERA. Pass.

They paid Cobb $5 of the 15, and Fowler 1.75 of his 14. It's not signifcant savings. And MadBum has $50M guaranteed after this year and a 5.09 ERA. Pass.

They paid Cobb $5 of the 15, and Fowler 1.75 of his 14. It's not signifcant savings. And MadBum has $50M guaranteed after this year and a 5.09 ERA. Pass.

MLB can easily fix this by using an electronic communication device from catcher to pitcher.
It would also speed up the game by not needing change signs with runners on base and getting signals mixed up.

Just to be clear… you make literally zero sense. The steroid era lacked testing so saying that a guy took steroids is always unfounded if they a) were never caught, or b) weren’t caught until later in their careers. 

The cheating scandal that was exposed after the 2019 season supposedly only encompassed the regular season in 2017, and they didn’t have evidence in future seasons or in the playoffs that year which was frankly bullshit. Many teams thought they were cheating in 2018 and 2019. MLB minimized the scandal as best it could and gave them a slap on the wrist. They didn’t stop cheating until they were caught. Last year they were watched very carefully so all of their hitters numbers were down. This year they’re all right back to 2017-2019 levels. So yes we’re upset if the first place team in the AL West is cheating again for an unfair advantage. And the Red Sox got caught in 2018, when Cora was manager who cheated with Astros in 2017. 
 

If they get caught again, I want minimum 3-5 year suspensions for all the players involved both times. I want a 3 year postseason ban and a forfeiture of all of their draft picks for the next three seasons.
Hammer them into oblivion. I know the Angels haven't been lighting the world on fire, but the record in 2017, 2018, 2019, and so far in 2021 against the Astros in Houston is: 21-45 in 66 games.

This guy thinks so.
 
The Astros are CHEATING AGAIN in 2021 and it's not just the pitchers
 

They got away with it the first time, why wouldn't they do it again?

Upton is owed the remainder of 24.7 million this year (20.278) and 28 million in 2022. That’s more than twice what Pujols was owed.
and while he has a .222 ba and a .708 OPS pct, he’s also at 98 OPS+ which ranks second on the team for outfielders. Pujols is at 74.
(Assuming Walsh is a 1B, like Minasian said today. Which is think is just covering their butts, as his future is clearly 1B with the minor league depth at OF positions better than 1B depth, but anyway)
Upton will turn it around and be a productive OF presence for the remainder of his contract. He’s 33, not 41 (or 44).

I like Upton. He’s a solid if unspectacular bat and he’s gonna be here for most of the next season. Don’t think anyone is gonna touch the 28 mil On his contract in 2022, so why release him and pay him to be good for another team. He’s not old, like Pujols, who says he’s three months younger than me but is probably three years older.

Except his defense in right is better than any other good hitter on the team (obviously not including Lagares who hasn’t hit)

I legitimately hope you lock your keys in your car for posting this.

Pujols in his last 11 games:
.263 BA
.333/.500/.833