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    DCAngelsFan reacted to ten ocho recon scout in Now that Arte is keeping the team, does this make it more likely that Shohei will go?   
    I don't "think" that. But it's the only thing I can think of that would (sort of) make sense.
    If Ohtani is leaving (or at least isn't signing an extension) then I have zero idea what Moreno is thinking.
    And to clarify. I don't speculate on that because I believe Ohtani is staying. I think he's gone, personally. 
    I just think Moreno, especially after all the drama the past few years and crap product, would want to get out of town with 3 billion dollars in his pocket. The fact he's staying makes me wonder if so is Ohtani, and Moreno wants to get credit for that?
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Inside Pitch in Now that Arte is Staying   
    1 - Throw more money at the scouting and development departments.
    2 - Throw more money at the analytics department
    3 - Allow his GM to GM and make any and all baseball decisions.
    4 - Raise beer prices to pay for the above.
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Inside Pitch in Now that Arte is Staying   
    Instant gratification as in putting everything into the MLB team and ignoring the foundation.  The complete opposite of what Bill Stoneman did to get the Angels out of the second division and into perennial contender status.
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from AngelsLakersFan in Jo Adell, at Driveline   
    The Angels over the years remind me of the accident chain phenomenon, like in aircraft accidents.  
    They do something stupid, which leads to a chain of subsequent mistakes which lasts for years, so that one mistake reverberates thru time.
    For example, we trade for Greinke (giving up Segura, etc), then don't bother to resign him 'cuz we thought he owed us a discount, apparently, and in a fit of pique, sign Hamilton instead, losing our 1st pick.  Two slots after that pick, Aaron Judge is drafted by the Yankees.
    Meanwhile, since we lost Greinke, we "replace" him by signing guys like Joe Blanton and Tommy Hanson (because we can sign 2 pitchers for the price of Greinke), and then after that blows up in our face, trade away Trumbo and Kendrick for more (mostly) failed pitchers.  When Hamilton crashed and burned, we traded for Joyce to backfill, then let him walk 'cause he was terrible, followed by a merry-go-round of bad left fielders, a trade for Upton then an extension, then his injuries, then poor performance, leading to calling up Adell prematurely and potentially ruining him.
    In a more perfect universe, we could've resigned Greinke (depriving the Dodgers of his contributions), not signed Hamilton, not be hamstrung by his salary, not signed Blanton, etc, and drafted Judge to be our "future" left fielder, and left Adell in the minors to develop properly.  
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from Angel Oracle in Jo Adell, at Driveline   
    The Angels over the years remind me of the accident chain phenomenon, like in aircraft accidents.  
    They do something stupid, which leads to a chain of subsequent mistakes which lasts for years, so that one mistake reverberates thru time.
    For example, we trade for Greinke (giving up Segura, etc), then don't bother to resign him 'cuz we thought he owed us a discount, apparently, and in a fit of pique, sign Hamilton instead, losing our 1st pick.  Two slots after that pick, Aaron Judge is drafted by the Yankees.
    Meanwhile, since we lost Greinke, we "replace" him by signing guys like Joe Blanton and Tommy Hanson (because we can sign 2 pitchers for the price of Greinke), and then after that blows up in our face, trade away Trumbo and Kendrick for more (mostly) failed pitchers.  When Hamilton crashed and burned, we traded for Joyce to backfill, then let him walk 'cause he was terrible, followed by a merry-go-round of bad left fielders, a trade for Upton then an extension, then his injuries, then poor performance, leading to calling up Adell prematurely and potentially ruining him.
    In a more perfect universe, we could've resigned Greinke (depriving the Dodgers of his contributions), not signed Hamilton, not be hamstrung by his salary, not signed Blanton, etc, and drafted Judge to be our "future" left fielder, and left Adell in the minors to develop properly.  
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from ten ocho recon scout in Jo Adell, at Driveline   
    The Angels over the years remind me of the accident chain phenomenon, like in aircraft accidents.  
    They do something stupid, which leads to a chain of subsequent mistakes which lasts for years, so that one mistake reverberates thru time.
    For example, we trade for Greinke (giving up Segura, etc), then don't bother to resign him 'cuz we thought he owed us a discount, apparently, and in a fit of pique, sign Hamilton instead, losing our 1st pick.  Two slots after that pick, Aaron Judge is drafted by the Yankees.
    Meanwhile, since we lost Greinke, we "replace" him by signing guys like Joe Blanton and Tommy Hanson (because we can sign 2 pitchers for the price of Greinke), and then after that blows up in our face, trade away Trumbo and Kendrick for more (mostly) failed pitchers.  When Hamilton crashed and burned, we traded for Joyce to backfill, then let him walk 'cause he was terrible, followed by a merry-go-round of bad left fielders, a trade for Upton then an extension, then his injuries, then poor performance, leading to calling up Adell prematurely and potentially ruining him.
    In a more perfect universe, we could've resigned Greinke (depriving the Dodgers of his contributions), not signed Hamilton, not be hamstrung by his salary, not signed Blanton, etc, and drafted Judge to be our "future" left fielder, and left Adell in the minors to develop properly.  
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Docwaukee in Arte Moreno announces he is no longer looking to sell the Angels   
    There couldn't be anything more indicative of how he runs this franchise.  
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from ten ocho recon scout in Arte Moreno announces he is no longer looking to sell the Angels   
    He had 20 effin years to "finish his business"
    You know, I'm glad the last two GM's have made some improvements - but I still think most of the front-office think this is an amusement park, not a baseball team, and I remain unconvinced that Arte will resource the team adequately - not just payroll, but all the entire scouting and development operation and front-office (can't wait for the next "Angels are so cheap ..." article to be published) 
    This was the worst-case, really - we keep Arte, and any serious bidding group is now probably pissed at the time and money invested, so when he changes his mind again, they'll be like "Fool me once ...."
     
     
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from dhack in The Official Los Angeles Angels Minor League Stats, Reports & Scouting Thread   
    In that vein, In the soccer community, a frequently asked question is "Why doesn't the US, with its huge population and many fine athletes, produce many world-class soccer players?"
    Because football, basketball, baseball, hockey, tennis, golf, lacrosse, Ultimate Frisbee ... 
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Docwaukee in Things You’d Like to See Under New Ownership   
    A single unified philosophy from top to bottom.   No limits on collecting smart people at any level of the org.   a proper marriage of analytics and conventional scouting Keep Ohtani but winning take precedent over star power.    Reasonable budget flexibility not a semblance of the pennywise pound foolish mentality Build teams on a yearly with the future in mind.  Don't constantly live year to year.   Appropriate resources at all levels without sacrificing the lower levels for short term gain at the major league level
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from jsnpritchett in Angels’ Spanish-language broadcast at a crossroads as announcers decry treatment   
    This thread reminded me of the international signing day announcements the other day, (where our top signing was rated #50 - which, if my math is correct, is the equal of a late-2nd round pick if there were a draft),  and remembered how when Arte bought the team I thought "Cool - bet all these South/Central American kids will want to sign with and play for the only team owned by a Latino."
    I can be so gullible sometimes ... 🤔
     
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Blarg in Angels’ Spanish-language broadcast at a crossroads as announcers decry treatment   
    I think I would rather have listened to the Spanish broadcast over Patrick O'Neal. Even while the washer was in the spin cycle with loose change 
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Jason in Angels’ Spanish-language broadcast at a crossroads as announcers decry treatment   
    Arte and Dan Snyder should go into business together 
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to tdawg87 in Angels’ Spanish-language broadcast at a crossroads as announcers decry treatment   
    It all starts with Moreno. Glad he's selling the team.
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Amazing Larry in Angels’ Spanish-language broadcast at a crossroads as announcers decry treatment   
    How much bad press can one organization obtain for themselves? This has to be one of the shittiest reputations for a MLB front office since Marge Schott owned a team.
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from Revad in The Official Los Angeles Angels Minor League Stats, Reports & Scouting Thread   
    In that vein, In the soccer community, a frequently asked question is "Why doesn't the US, with its huge population and many fine athletes, produce many world-class soccer players?"
    Because football, basketball, baseball, hockey, tennis, golf, lacrosse, Ultimate Frisbee ... 
  18. It's True!
    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from Inside Pitch in The Official Los Angeles Angels Minor League Stats, Reports & Scouting Thread   
    In that vein, In the soccer community, a frequently asked question is "Why doesn't the US, with its huge population and many fine athletes, produce many world-class soccer players?"
    Because football, basketball, baseball, hockey, tennis, golf, lacrosse, Ultimate Frisbee ... 
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Chuck in Angels acquire Hunter Renfroe from the Brewers for Janson Junk, Elvis Peguero, and Adam Seminaris   
    Really excited about the addition of Urshela, Drury and Renfroe. 
    Here's some Renfroe highlights from 2022 to pump you up. 
     
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from angelsnationtalk in Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread   
    Hmm - still have depth/injury concerns but I really don't want to see them pull this off - imo, this would put them into WC contention.  
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to mrwicked in WIll the Angels have a new owner before the start of the 2023 season?   
    I am interested.
    But if I get involved we do away w/ this "family value" crap and go right to trashy cheerleaders, bikini-bar concession girls walking around who throw jello-shots, better booze, a cigar/whiskey lounge and two in-n-outs onsite.
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Dtwncbad in OC Register: Warriors owner Joe Lacob confirms he’s considering bid for Angels   
    Yeah I am kind of with you on this.  None of us really know what kind of an owner PSS would actually be, but it sure would be a lot more comfortable if the incoming owner had some sports or sports ownership history behind them.
    Or if the big money source or sources don’t have that experience, I really would like to see a strategic front man like Theo Epstein.
    Imagine both!  If we found out the new owner is 50% Lacob, 40% other private investors and 10% Theo Epstein, I would be pretty jacked.
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from Angel Oracle in OC Register: Warriors owner Joe Lacob confirms he’s considering bid for Angels   
    And those investing that kind of money will certainly want confidence that the person running things (as owner) will protect their investment by increasing the value of the club (as well as dividends paid.)
    This is may be where PSS will fall short - both investors and the other owners will want assurances that the club will be run well, is competitive and without controversy that hurts baseball in general - so, not a McCourt or Loria. 
    PSS doesn't have the sports background and if I have $100m burning a hole in my pocket, I'm calling Lacob to try and get on his team.  
    I expect PSS' bidding group to be a clown car of minority interests, as he tries to check every interest checkbox by including 2 dozen reps from money, celebrities, Hollywood, sports, baseball bobblehead, media (old and new), and DEI categories.  
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    DCAngelsFan reacted to Hubs in OC Register: Warriors owner Joe Lacob confirms he’s considering bid for Angels   
    I think he's playing it cool, speaking to a member of the SF media. Also, he grew up one mile from Angels Stadium, so he was presumably a fan. 
    From Wikipedia
    Lacob grew up in a Jewish family[4] in New Bedford, Massachusetts. The Lacob family relocated to Anaheim, California and Joe switched his allegiance to the Los Angeles Lakers and the Los Angeles Angels.[5][6]
    Lacob earned a bachelor's degree in biological sciences from University of California, Irvine in 1978, master's degree in public health (epidemiology) from University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) and an MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business.[7]
    And from an old OC register article from 2008
    Orange County boy returns to area as part owner of Celtics
    Marcia C. SmithJune 12, 2008 at 3:00 a.m.   LOCAL ROOTS:Celtics co-owner Joe Lacob watches the action courtside Tuesday. Lacob is a Katella High and UCI graduate who sold peanuts at Angels games when he lived in Orange County. LOS ANGELES — The teenager who used to hock peanuts at Angel Stadium just to be close to his favorite baseball team grew up to own a piece of the Boston Celtics, the basketball team he also loved as a child.
    Joe Lacob, still as slight and as sandy-haired as his Katella High teachers remembered him from the 1970s, had a courtside seat at Staples Center during the NBA Finals. He sat across from the Lakers bench, shared a sideline with film maker Steven Spielberg, and was closest to the baseline anchored by director Spike Lee.
    Unlike the others around him, Lacob roots for the visitors. Over his crisply starched, long-sleeved shirt fastened at the wrists with gold cufflinks, he wore a baggy white T-shirt bearing “Gotta Beat LA” in Celtics green. 
    “Too bad I won’t be here for Game 4,” said Lacob on Tuesday while walking into the roped-off, VIP-only Chairman’s Room during halftime of the Lakers’ Game 3 victory. “I’m going to Africa. Vacation with the family. So I’ll have to check in.”
     
    Think Africa is far? Consider how far Lacob has come, from peanut guy to venture capitalist and Celtics co-owner.
    “Really? Joe Lacob? No kidding,” said Robert McMahon, Lacob’s former science teacher at Katella High, where Lacob was a 1974 graduate. “That’s great.” 
    McMahon, 79, of Anaheim backed his car out of his garage Thursday and dug through the yearbooks he squirreled away during his 25-year teaching career. 
    “I remember him,” said McMahon, who retired in 1991. “He was a really good student. He wanted to go into medicine, and he played on the tennis team for three years. Now he owns part of the Celtics? My goodness.”
    As a Harvard student in the late 1950s and early 1960s, McMahon followed the Celtics. He recalled the power of Bill Russell, the playmaking of Bob Cousy and the dynasty that included a record eight consecutive NBA titles.
     
    Around the same time, Lacob, who now lives in Atherton, was a young boy living in the Boston suburb of New Bedford. He was born a Celtics fan, a product of his geography and the hold the storied franchise had on the region.
    “They were the first team I followed, and they had so many great players,” Lacob said. “But my family moved to Anaheim when I was 14, and I became a big fan of the Lakers …and started following the Angels.”
    Those were the Angels of Jim Fregosi, Sandy Alomar and Nolan Ryan. And Lacob would hurry through his schoolwork and tennis practice to race to the ballpark for the night games.
    For six years, through high school and into his college years at UC Irvine, where he earned a degree in biological sciences, Lacob spent Angels game nights running through the stadium aisles, taking bucks and tossing packs of roasted peanuts to fans.
    He worked seven years in Fountain Valley before going to UCLA, where he earned a master’s degree in public health. He received his MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business and became a partner at the Menlo Park-based venture capital firm, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers in 1987.
    Now a senior partner, Lacob heads the firm’s medical technology practice, a portfolio that includes more than 30 therapeutic and diagnostic medical device companies. 
    He’s skilled at finding businesses, often fledgling startups with great potential for profit, and directing millions of dollars at their development. He has a talent for finding the right investment.
    He never dreamed that he would one day invest in his beloved basketball team that had fallen far from the heyday he knew as a child.
    But in January 2006, the Celtics announced that Lacob had bought into the team’s ownership group, contributing the third-most money for the franchise that would post a lot more losses before its most recent gains.
    The Celtics were 33-49 in 2005-06 and an embarrassing 24-58 last season before they acquired All-Star Kevin Garnett to engineer the franchise renaissance.
    “I grew up with a lot of favorite Celtics players, but right now Garnett is my favorite,” said Lacob, who is a member of the Celtics board of directors. “I can’t believe that we’re in the NBA Finals.”
    His youthful eyes filled with boyhood wonder as he moved through the celebrity crowd in his wingtips Tuesday. Then he stopped quickly, whispering and starstruck, “It’s Hugh Hefner” at the sight of the Playboy magazine mogul strolling by with buxom blondes as bookends.
    A rookie on the NBA celebrity scene, Lacob laughed and said, “I’ve got to get back to see my team.”
    Really, the kid who used to hock peanuts at Angels games can truly call the Celtics his.
    Contact the writer: masmith@ocregister.com
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    DCAngelsFan got a reaction from Angel Oracle in OC Register: Warriors owner Joe Lacob confirms he’s considering bid for Angels   
    I like that he's got a track record of business-building and especially, building a successful sports franchise.  Running a baseball team isn't the same as selling billboards
    But I can't help but be a little miffed that the Angels are his 3rd choice - at best - and that his connection doesn't sound like it's to the Angels, just that he had a job as a peanut vendor at the stadium. 
    Owners as fans are among the worst owners. 
    But geez, can't he sound even a little enthused?  
    (That said, he sounds miles better than PSS, and if he wins the bidding, his "enthusiasm" will be apparent)
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