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Do you have any data besides the fact that the three are on the Angels' roster? Do you think the Angels' training staff approach blows out UCL's in 100 innings flat?
Skaggs spent significant time in the Diamondbacks system before his injury in his first season on the Angels MLB roster (113 innings pitched with Angels.) Heaney is a product of the Marlin's farm system (111.2 innings pitched with Angels.) Your supposition seems unfounded.

Hearing Rory Markas...damn I miss him...
 
I believe in Weaver. If he stays healthy, he'll be fine. One of, if not THE fiercest competitors in the Angels Organization.

Weav's first career strikeout. Fastball had just a teeny bit more zip to it back then
 

The way I see it is there are guys that should be free of harsh criticism, Weaver is that kind of guy. It's obvious his stuff is gone, but he's had a top 3 career for an Angel starting pitcher. He's also signed a team friendly deal. He's had a great career and probably deserves credit.

Andrelton treating ST like he's a kid at the arcade. Just collecting those tickets and gonna cash in on that big prize

Blah.blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Your right. Tigers covered 1M...Google has him @ only 1M but your correct..
Still 6 mil is pretty good and he gets to be free agent at the end of the year, probably in a better market for OF...

They offered him 5 mil? Didn't he only make 1 mil last year? Geez. 5x pay raise sounds good to me. Effn boras.

It's about economics

Time to start operating under a budget right after cashing in on that TV deal.

From : http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/jered-weaver-anaheim-abgels-fastball-slow-history-110915
 
Perhaps Weaver will show up to spring training in 2016 – the final year of his contract – with renewed life on his fastball. One thing is clear, however: if Weaver shows up with an 83 mph fastball and claims full-time starting duties, he will be in rare company. Succeeding long-term with that sort of stuff? Only two recent right-handers have done it. One of them's in the Hall of Fame.

Also, I don't see the reason for limiting Tyler. We have enough evidence to back up that it doesn't take a pitcher 12 months to recover from TJ. It takes 12 months to throw again, but to fully regain velocity, snap on breaking balls and feel for a change up, it's more like 16.
By the time the season starts, Skaggs will be 18 months removed from surgery. As far as I'm concerned concerned, he's already been handled with kiddy gloves. He's ready to roll and I wouldn't hesitate to start him over both Weaver and Santiago.

75 Games? LOL  that would be a great season...  I'm thinking we Win no more than 70. 

The only reason to trade him at this point would be to free up payroll to sign Fowler.
 
But that would actually kind of make sense, so they'll trade him and then call it an offseason because economics.

Hahaha....Fowler is better than GMJ ever was.

Hey Tdawg, have you watched Fowler play on a daily basis? Other than what you read on paper, what makes you think he is a terrible defender exactly? What does Dexter Fowler NOT do, that this team desperately needs? Please, get into the argument. You have nothing but time on here apparently, so lets us all know EXACTLY why? As for 86, what does signing Fowler have to do with Patience? This team doesn't need a difference maker. We've allocated enough of our resources on "the franchise" type of player for now. We need players that are table setters and know how to play the fundamentals of the game. Its nice to have a player that can carry the team for a month or two but we dont NEED that. I'd rather have someone who shows up more than not and I'm sure If Dexter Fowler didn't have a pick associated with him, then he would already be an Angel. FYI, The dude most likely wont be a center fielder anymore anyways.

I'm glad too see more people eventually voted for Dexter. Various said it perfectly though and It just makes it "easier" now that we don't match up, trade wise. It's not like Fowler is some crap defender either, he might not be the best center fielder in the League but the boy can play and fits our needs like a glove. Andre Ethier is the exact opposite of what this team needs. He just looks good because hes left handed, an out of place OF and is close to home. The only ex-dodger we should be focused on though is Hanley Ramirez. Most people think hes done but personally, I think Boston just doesn't mesh well with everyone. Getting Hanley is risky I know but If it's the money your worried about, don't, that can always be negotiated to a reasonable AAV.

I'd rather take Cespedes than Upton.  5/$100 to 105 is probably what he will sign at somewhere. 
 
Biggest reason I don't want Upton, just like I didn't want Heyward, is that entire NL career.  I am not a big fan of big contracts to people switching for the first time to the AL.  They might do well, but more often, you see those that are successful going from AL to NL.  Look at Pujols.  A 900+ OPS player and now people are happy with his 800- candy ass performance. 

I know it's December 11th but the rhetoric coming out of the front office isn't promising. Definitely get the feeling they're not going to spend.  I'm sure the team will be different but I don't expect a splashy LF signing.  Trading CJ Wilson for a decent 2bmen is about the best I can hope for.  As currently constructed this is a team that will fight for 4th place in the AL West.  Bottom tier offense, above average starting pitching, average bullpen.  Don't love surrounding Simmons with poor infield defense like Escobar, Johnny G and Cron, what's the point?

I have a feeling that the Angels leave the meeting empty handed.  What if? what if we don't sign any FA's then what ?

i don't want to see Upton here..    

Remember, Brandon Crawford used to suck at hitting too, and he figured it out. I think Simmons can do the same.

Just from this one trade, here are my thoughts.
 
Eppler likes D.
Eppler wants to win now.
Eppler thinks minor league players are potential pawns and is not afraid to deal them for knights and kings for the MLB club.  
 
Also, I think that the Angels are probably in big for Heyward.  The D in the outfield with GG Calhoun, Trout in CF, and GG Heyward might make it the best D in the Angels history.  And would follow suite with the D he just traded for in the infield.  And a great D like that could make an average starting lineup pretty spectacular.

Look, it's easy to start the "Fire Eppler" threads and bad-mouth this trade, but I think the more interesting thread is teasing out what this tells us about Eppler's approach.  And I, for one, think I'm going to like it.
 
This is a "big boy" trade.  It's a confident trade, trading two PROSPECTS for a proven commodity.  Yes, a below-average hitter, but undeniably the best defensive player in the game.  77.5 runs saved since 2013, first in the majors by a LARGE margin.  Second place is 52.2.  He's going to be so much fun to watch.
 
This is a trade that a team makes when it plans to open the wallet.  Neither Newcomb nor Ellis have ever set foot in the majors.  Simmons is a major stud defensively and proven in the major leagues.  Fangraphs rated Simmons' current contract as having the 30th most trade value in the major leagues (in between Abreu and Seager... pretty heady company).  Fangraphs' article quotes several front office executives comparing Simmons' early years to Ozzie Smith.  If he develops in that model, this trade is very likely to be a huge win for the Angels.
 
I think Eppler is bringing some Yankee swagger to Anaheim.  If this reflects a new direction for the club, I think we should prepare to see some major new free agent signings in the offing.  If the club keeps moving in this same direction, the product on the field in 2016 is likely to be far more competitive but at a much higher cost.  It isn't the "Angels Way" many of us grew up with, but maybe we are the ones that need to adapt.  Maybe the Angels are finally about to realize their potential as a big market team.

I loved it. With all the emotion that was going on I don't know how you don't flip your bat there. 
 
Is it disrespectful? yea probably. Will he get hit next time he faces the Rangers? Probably.
 
As a fan though that was awesome. Those types of emotions are better for the sport than just calmly rounding the bases. 
 
What did you guys think?