Angels_Make_Me_Drink

25 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Minasian is pretty good at erasing his extension/signing oopsies.

Fletcher
Stassi
Iglesias

All to the same team, lol. 

It’s gonna be Toronto, isnt it? Too much smoke…

im ok with it if it does happen, though. Anything but the Dogs. 

The Giants and the Angels have been absolutely quiet in this entire ordeal. I can't wait to read what leaks outs after he signs somewhere on each teams pitch.

Any offer he accepts will be generational money. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that he left cash on the table with offers he rejects. I agree with Stradling, its likely a struggle on what he wants. Loyalty and build a legacy with the team who drafted him or go to a club whose more win ready now and go do that. 

I'll never get over how ridiculous and fanatic social media has made people. Twitter users have found a private flight scheduled from Anaheim to Toronoto tomorrow morning. 

The Angels operate in secrecy; I’ll believe we are still in it until Ohtani makes his decision. 
 

nobody predicted us signing Albert, CJ, Trout extension, and Ohtani. If there is one thing that Moreno is excellent at; it’s keeping a lid on how he’s operating. He’s very much in this fight, his ego will not lose Ohtani to the Dodgers without an excellent sales pitch and effort. Are we the favorites to sign him? Maybe not but this won’t be an easy decision for Ohtani. 

Sounds like Soto to the Yanks will be finalized at some point this morning/afternoon 

Luis Garcia to the angels 1/4.25 million 

Yanks fans saying this guy is super legit; has a direct line to Cashman and the front office. Looks like things are finally heating up.

Dodger fans are saying he’s the source that broke Freeman to the Dodgers but Helen Keller could’ve called that once the Braves fell apart. 

Oh yeah, Roberts fucked up LOL

14 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/12/05/shohei-ohtani-dodgers-free-agent-cubs-rumors/71815659007/

 

Roberts spoke freely and relaxed for 20 minutes, but his face became serious as he spent several moments reading a text message on his phone after his session. He immediately huddled with Dodgers public relations officials.

If the Dodgers miss out on Ohtani and this is the reason why, Roberts will never be able to live this one down lol. 

2 blessed 2 be stressed

shut up Vernon. 

38 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Angel's in the final 4

Again, I’d be shocked if he goes to Toronto. I’ll respect his decision if he does, but I think he’s staying in California. Is SF a legit player in this? 

Has it been discussed, even if its not logical, that maybe Shohei re-ups on a 2+1 type of deal with the Angels. Didn't Washington sign a 2 year deal? Maybe Shohei comes back for 2 guaranteed years at a record breaking yearly salary, his rehab year, and one year of pitching and then can opt into a third or out of the contract to get a longer term deal? Also would make sense on Ron's 2 year deal...

Just shooting from the hip here...

1 hour ago, Chuck said:

Everyone I talk to seems to think he'll stay with us because that's his comfort zone, but will our offer top other suitors? and will Ohtani's desire to be on a perennial winner factor in? 

Thats good; I agree with that opinion as well. I don't see Shohei as the type of person to take the most money on the table type of deal. If the deals are close, I think he'll prioritize two things, Winning and his autonomy of his workload/comfort level with organization. Just curious, what is your personal belief? Is he staying or going?

@Chuck I haven't been following lately; just curious if any of your connections have a feeling of the situation. Not asking for lean, just a simple yes or no. 

It'll be us or the Dodgers. I really don't think he'll go to Canada and I do not think he'll go to Chicago. Obviously that could be way wrong but I believe he'll stay on the west coast, as well. 

Does he go to the team that he thinks is a piece or two away with a hell of a farm system and an already stacked lineup? Or does he buy into what Perry is pitching, the youth we have coming up the pipeline, and maybe get an assurance from Arte/Perry that they're going to go all in if he commits and finish what he started here in Anaheim? I'm going to continue to believe he's going to stay with the Angels. 

The longer this drags on, the more I think the Angels' have a chance to bring him back. We've got a chance to sell him on a future here.

I don’t know jack shit about advanced stats and how to compare players, but how does Snell compare to CJ Wilson when we signed him? 

4 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

We love those ex dodgers. How in the world did this guy get a guaranteed MLB deal?

Because its the Angels giving it to him. 

I think he'll end up with the Dodgers. If there is every a team that seems to be, at least over the last 5-10 years, in post season contention and consistent with their analytics, player development, etc. its the Dodgers. They've got a massive fanbase, he can stay in SoCal and he'll likely be playing for a perennial contender. 

If not the Dodgers, I think Seattle and SF are the two likely landings spots. Both west coast teams, SF has a massive Asian population and he could be the face that brings them back into contention. Seattle just seems like a dark horse. 

I hope he stays in Anaheim, and I think we are a top 2 landing spot for him, unfortunately IMO it doesn't feel like we'll be #1. If there is any truth to the rumor that came out last week that the Angels will try to accommodate Trout if he asks for a trade; I don't see us committing the money and years to Ohtani in that situation, I see a full blown rebuild. 

It was a pleasure watching you do incredible things, Shohei. If you do leave us, which I personally think he will, I will root for you wherever you go with Boston and Houston being the exceptions. 

This just feels like the beginning of a breakup lol. 

I blame the Angels' for a lot of things; but this isn't on them. He wanted autonomy over his body and usage and he got it. He had full control and ran himself into the ground. Hell he's only at 130 IP this year. He's had a hx of elbow issues and this just further enforces that his elbow will always be a concern.