Angels in 2030

You don't think that if he wins the cy young this year that there won't be any team willing to pay big buck for him? Let's not kid ourselves -- teams don't care about the quality of the individual....they care about performance. It's a moot point because he won't be winning the Cy Young and may not pitch for a while this year (if at all). I only said he'd get that big money IF he wins the Cy Young this year (or one of the top contenders). Not happening now, so i'm not sure why you brought this up. Unless you think he will win the Cy Young this year (or top contender for such)....which is surprising considering the fact he's not even in the top 10 NL WAR for pitchers (nor ERA+, RE24, etc.). Even if he didn't have this issue, he wasn't even headed for a top 10 Cy Young finish. So still not sure why you are bring my comment up. Somewhat odd to be honest.

Such a talented and amazing player. So fun to watch. Being wasted on this team. I hope he can showcase his skills in the playoffs one day as an Angel.

If we do end up selling, I hope we double up say with closer and Heaney/Cobb or Iglesias - for a more impactful return. Quality back (not quantity). Giving a team a closer and either a SS or SP which are rentals (no LT commitment) is quite enticing for a team hoping to make a 2021 WS run. Especially ones looking to add previously lost playoff revenues (game day).

Future Starter - BP day that is

The fact that it’s June 2021 says everything about this topic. btw, I feel like it’s Groundhog Day and this is same post (with names changed) each of the past several years.

So If the Angels could only play themselves then maybe they’d be serious playoff contenders.

You can find me in the naked curling forum gameday threads. I've seen the future.

Assuming Leiter/Rocker gone -- it's Jobe, Bachman, Madden or bust for me at #9 (in that order).

GA must think there are a LOT of very dumb Angel fans then

The game of baseball is terrible and virtually unwatchable right now (imho) -- so this fits right in.

Let's just get to 2030 as quickly as possible

Dang we obviously got the wrong Baltimore Orioles #4 OA busted SP draft pick. Can we have a redo?

Don't worry, whatever side it's on right now...i'm sure it'll change back soon enough

Maddon simply needs to not put him in on that 4th inning -- problem solve

Ooofff this game smh. Early but ugly

I like reading mock drafts. It’s fun. But if there is any sport where a mock draft is virtually worthless results wise, it’s baseball. Fun yes; but not worth a shiny penny.

I think there would be a limited amount of teams interested....and it would depend on how much the angels would pay it down before they would want him. The vast majority of teams would not be interested in him. Easier said than done imho.

You have this wrong. The real question is: would another team trade for Upton and how much of his salary would they pay?

Detmer's is still tinkering with his game and adding, refining pitches. The last thing you'd do to a kid like that is throw him into the majors. We have other young arms (Barria, Sandoval, Saurez, Packy, etc.) that have earned some starts as needed. Just let Detmer continue to build his repertoire and gain professional innings in the minors. He can be brought up the last month of the season for start or two if all goes well.

I think Bundy has a longer leash than some others here. For better or worse, he’s in the rotation for several more starts.

Oh 100% agree. I think this year for the first time in a LONG time we are just now starting to see some life and beginnings of true depth this year. Heading in the right direction. It's a good start and hopefully continues & builds. Not there yet -- pitching especially so.

Good post. You are probably right. I'm basing my opinion on non-Angel fans/AW system rankings. I really like reading about our guys from people here because it's truly guys who have actually SEEN them play. That is extremely valuable -- not to mention fun as a fan to read. Still, sometimes people can get too close to your own guys like a grandmother with her grandkids. So seeing what so-called experts say is good too for a general feel. Overall, my negativity stems from years of lack of depth and (more so) pitching.

Maybe i didn't articulate myself properly (was posting on phone earlier and had issues). But this is exactly what i say about our system: very young, raw and some exciting such guys. But that's it. You'd think by now we'd have a more robust farm system considering sucking for years. The upper levels are not good. Every team has a Detmer type -- but that's really all we have for good SPs coming up. Every team has hard throwing RPs. We have some OFs...we also have very young, exciting MIs. I'd say OFs and MIs are maybe the easiest to get in todays game. Pitching is the key. Even Catchers. When was the last really good SP we developed and had on the Angels? Maybe Weaver. Holy heck that's bad. What about a RP -- KRod. Yikes. Maybe i'm missing someone. Still, that shows you how bad we've been at drafting and developing pitchers. Catchers too -- long drought. 3Bman -- Glaus. SS -- idk, i'm drawing a blank right now.