Angels in 2030

My biggest issue is the depth....and lack of ML ready players we have. This far along in rebuilding your farm system, we should have better AA/AAA depth. I love our recent international signings the past couple years. We have some great HS draft picks last couple years. So the 16-20 year old of our system looks exciting. But man, beyond that is is thiiiiiiiiin and weak comparatively so. Especially because we've sucked for years. We are not coming off a prolonged playoff run trading guys for WS runs year after year.

I love Chris Rodriguez and think he's the one true elite arm we have. But, and maybe i'm wrong, it seems most are starting t question (if they hadn't already) whether he can be a SP. Can you see him pitch 200 innings a year for 5-10 years? I truly hope so. But even the more optimist folks are starting to question his viability LT as a SP. Detmers is our best SP prospect (since not including Rodriguez). I consider him a very strong middle (#3) with some potential be be a #2 at times. But basically a very good #3. That seems to be where so-called farm system experts place him most likely to land as well if he makes it. That's freaking great to have. But your best SP prospect should have a higher ceiling. Whom else do we have that has that ceiling besides young guys that we're solely dreaming on. We have young guys that haven't put it together yet, haven't pitched yet, etc. But not any guys with the stuff and have shown (even at low level) over say 5-10 starts that they have it besides a hope & dream one day.

I hope you are right here and we have some good catching depth for the next 5-8+ years. But honestly, i think your definition of "promising" is different than mine. I trust you though and you know more about these guys than i do. So please be true. I think you have to accept some reality and say that you would take most other teams catching prospect over ours right now.

I think some are being a bit homerish with the farm. 20+ does not mean there isn’t talent. it’s also not night & day differences. It’s a sliding scale. As I mentioned, it young talent. It’s very raw and untapped potential. Compare that to other teams without your Angel bias. Angels might have some of the better very young talent (low A and below….under 19). But that’s unknown talent at this point. Think of the top level talent ready now and the next year. We have some talented OFs with holes that could be ready and take off. We have some middle to back end SPs that may happen. Potential RPs ready now probably. But that’s it. No catchers. No TOR type SPs. I mean guys performing as such in minors - not guys with the stuff that are young who one day coild turn into it. Many of the other teams have these guys - multiple ones too.

There are some young guys to dream upon. But let’s be honest, this farm system is clearly in the bottom 1/3rd of baseball. That’s the black hole of being just good enough to not fully tank/sell and bad enough that you don’t sniff the playoffs year after year. Even still, it’s also some bad drafting, scouting and player development.

I'd have used a different, more colorful adjective -- but that works too.

The good: 1 hit in 4.1 innings The bad: 6 BBs (only 2 Ks) hopefully just a bad/stingy ump

Tall -- yes. Control -- No.

Interesting he’s 6’6 - really tall guys like that tend to have control problems don’t they? Especially early in their pro career/development

That's a solid freaking name. Like a lumberjack dude in Montana.

Someone either is having a stroke or is simply a horrible speller

Wow It’s like a bad car crash - you can’t turn away.

And where exactly has that “no debt” owner gotten us as a fan base? The best Arte years were him taking over a team that had recently won its first WS and had a GM (stoneman) who had set up system with ton of guys coming up. Basically coattails- with the exception of the 2004 Vlad/Bart signings. It went downhill from there once Arte got his guys in the FO/organization. Not to mention bad FA signings that likely had his prints on over such.

That’s a weird assumption- that the new owner would be cash poor due to spending on the LAA. You can’t make that assumption. nevertheless, it’s not rich owners ruling the game right now. It’s smart ownership and front offices. We do not have that right now. still, worrying about it being potentially worse with new owner. That’s odd considering we’ve been virtually invisible the past 5+ years. What could be worse? I’d rather be the worst team - at least the league sets you up for the top draft pick. We can’t even suck good.

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Chase Utley one of biggest cheaters....interesting. Wouldn't have thought so.

Looks like the Angels suckage the past 5+ years might have been a lack of cheating (trying). Royals, Yanks, Dodgers, Asstross, etc.

Geaney is my new favorite LA Angel!

Call me crazy/stupid (doesn't bother me), but if I were the angels development team for the farm system, i'd have a plan for the kid. One random AB in each game, he'd not swing at any pitch until he walked or K'd. He'd check swing (w/o going around) on pitches that he felt were hittable pitches that he should swing at. Then we'd go over that at-bat with video after the game and have him explain why he'd swing at that pitch -- and we'd explain why he shouldn't (if applicable). Just to get him to re-wire himself and recognize that you don't HAVE to swing at every pitch or even strike (some strikes are better left alone). Maybe you'd do this until he got a 2-strike count....since your mentality and what you swing at should expand at that point. But you get the point. It needs to be drilled into him now before he attempts again being at the highest level. Or maybe i'm an idiot and should stick to hockey.

I think it was three -- but i'm not sure if I have them all (maybe more): Artie Moreno Artie Morono Fartie Moreno

Trout looks in good condition (says Bartolo)

Define “eventually”? I’m planning out my next 40 years.

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