AngelsFanSince86

Josh HamTHISGUYSUCKSANDIHATEHIMHESTRIKESOUTTOOMUCHilton

It's time for a rant. (Warning, long post ahead. Bring chips.)
 
If you follow me on Twitter, you would know I have grown up in Red Sawx nation. So I am accustomed to being surrounded by stupidity. But I would spend every night at Fenway if it meant I never had to come in contact with another Detroit Tigers fan, in person or online. Don't get me wrong, Sawx fans are obnoxious, self-righteous, and entitled and I despise them with every fiber of my being.
 
But let me make this clear: Tigers fans are the worst. Bar none. They are whiny, self-absorbed, and are possibly the most defensive fanbase in all of sports. If Freud were alive today, he would dedicate his entire life's work to the study of the inferiority complex that plagues the city of Detroit.
 
Now, I know what you are thinking. "tdawg, every fanbase has their share of idiots. It isn't fair to judge an entire fanbase based on a select few." And to that I say "shut the hell up you pubish imbecile". First off, I don't know every Tigers fan in existence, that would be impossible. But I grew up in a baseball neighborhood and have met hundreds of fans (mostly Red Sox fans) in person and online. The amount of stupidity that I have endured over the years would drive most men insane. However there has been one constant through all of it: I know a lot of good, intelligent fans. Yes, I know at least a dozen Red Sox fans who are actually pretty fun to talk baseball with. One of my best friends is a Yankees fan and he is one of the most knowledgeable baseball fans I know. I work with a Phillies fan as well, and while she is a casual fan, she is still knowledgeable of the game and their farm system, as well as other players around the league.
 
Admittedly, I don't personally know a fan of every team in baseball. I have however, spent a lot of time on message boards throughout the years, and blogs, and have talked with fans of every team from around the globe. I know a lot of intelligent baseball fans. Guess which fanbase has 0 of them?
 

Getting warmer!
 
I have never, in my 20 years of being a baseball fan, associated with an intelligent, unbiased, non-defensive Tigers fan. Once again, does that mean that the 30 or so fans I've associated with online over the past few years represent the millions of Tigers fans in the world? Yes, yes it does. With the help of HaloThunder, I have calculated that 1 online fan represents 100,000 people, give or take. So 30 x 100,000 = 3 million. That's at least 98% of their fanbase right there. Probably more if you count the hobos.
 
"But tdawg, you are just being silly. Hell, the Angels have their share of stupid fans! Just look at yourself!". This is true. This team has dumbass fans out the butt. But they also have a strong, albeit small, hardcore fanbase that is highly intelligent, rational, and not incredibly buttsore over every little thing. Now, you may be asking for some "evidence". And unfortunately finding evidence of stupid Tigers fans has proven to be extremely difficult.
 
Haha just kidding, it was easy as shit. From the ESPN article about the 2014 ASG comments section, may I provide you with your monthly dose of stupid:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
And my personal favorite:
 
 
This is the type of crap I'm talking about. This garbage plagues every ESPN article, every Yahoo article, and has even gotten some shit in Deapspin as well. These people have mental deficiencies that can't be cured. But why? How did this all begin?
 
Well, there's this:
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/We-hate-Jered-Weaver/102496893183670
 
Guess who started that page? It was started shortly after the Weaver throwing at Avila incident. I mean, how childish can you get? I talked to one guy who used to love Weaver, and he said that what he did was basically attempted murder. No joke. This incident was what I believe to be the downfall of this fanbase. They went from being stupid but just kind of there, to being stupid, and annoying and whiny and the biggest bunch of crybaby man-children to ever disgrace the entire planet. The entire city of Detroit and all of their fans went full retard on that day. Now don't get me wrong, Weaver was a dick during that whole fiasco, but really now? Really?
 
Then comes Trout, and Tigers' fans sphincters tightened up so much you could cut off the circulation of Adam's dick. OH NOES, a player who might dethrone their Miggy (the guy they traded for and didn't develop but act like they did) as the best in the game? The MVP debate the last few years has further shown the lack of intelligence from Detroit's fanbase. I have seen every excuse you could possibly imagine "Well Miggy went to 3rd and was selfless and it's a harder position to play than center so that's why his D isn't as good". "WAR is a completely useless stat and doesn't mean anything" (unless Verlander leads the league in WAR, of course). The list goes on.
 
I could post links to forums, blogs, (I'm pretty sure there's an anti-Weaver Twitter page as well created by the special people up North). But I'll save Chuck the bandwidth.
 
So there you have it. The Tigers have the dumbest, most obnoxiously ignorant fanbase in the majors. You are free to disagree, but I will leave you with one final gem before you hit that post button:
 
 
We are living in dark times people. Dark times.

Scioscia being delusional: "We were 0 for 12 with RISP, but I thought we hit really well with runners on base."
 
Uhhhh...

Scioscia being delusional: "We were 0 for 12 with RISP, but I thought we hit really well with runners on base."
 
Uhhhh...

Street is very vocal out there and taking command rather than being passive like Frieri. He is talking to and then congratulating Ianetta on his work behind the plate. He also never once shook off the sign and just made is best pitch.
Like him a lot.

hard hitting questions from alex curry

Love that response by Street:  "Thats my job"  Amen.

Smith and Langston were all over Rodney for his 8th inning arrow. Then Pujols hit they were talking about the retaliation arrows. After Green's walk off Smith did indeed say that and with that inflection, hitting hard LOSER. Let's just say they were a little homerish this afternoon.

OMFG i love it !!!!    In the past i have bitched alot about the team not showing heart or seeming to care.. this weekend perhaps more than any other even though they dropped one i saw heart, caring, and king kong brass balls.

Rodney will walk off the mound a LOSER TODAY! ~ Terry Smith

I'm pretty new to this site, but have been on here reading threads since last season.  Some of the posters on here can be a little brash and straight forward, but that is what I like about this site.  It would be annoying if it weren't for the fact that the people who frequently post on here know more about baseball and the Angels then any other Angels forum you will find.  People here have done their research and (for the most part) don't talk out of their behind. I have learned a lot from this site and I hope I can contribute in the future.  I guess my point is, grow up and lighten up.  If you take people too seriously it will stress you out too much.  It is the internet and nobody is forcing you to be here.  If you think you could do a better job then by all means start your own forum instead of attacking the people who run this site.  Personally I find the conversation on here (this thread particularly) to be hilarious.  

If you're gonna shift then I'm gonna bunt. If you don't like it then make your 3rd baseman play 3rd base.

Doesn't help when Richards is not getting the same calls as Felix.

I know what point youre making, but we also have street for next season.

We didnt trade those parts for a setup man, Street will be the primary closer
smith has already said he is ok with the move to the 8th, though i epxectthey will give him some chances to close as well as much as possible, he has earned that

I don't want any blame to go to my mods so I have to take responsibility.
I'm responsible for the deletion of the threads, but it wasn't intentional. I simply ran what I thought was a straight forward SQL script to delete any **** Dipoto posts for today's date and it ended up deleting entire threads with those parameters.
Sorry guys. I never censor your asses, you should know better. I was trying to be proactive against trolls or those being assholes because they hated the trade. There's nothing wrong with hating a trade or move, but it is against our code of conduct to get personal. Especially when Dipoto reads the board.
I liked the trade until I digested it a bit more. Lindsey and Rondon meh... but including Alvarez was a big mistake, though I hope in the long run it isn't.

Yeah I get what you are saying.  Its definitely a tough choice.  Street has been better overall and has more experience.  But Smith has been better in the 9th, although has had a few less opportunities.  I really see this as a great problem to have, especially in the playoffs.  If you end up having several close games in a row it is good to know you have two reliable lights out closers in the pen that you can alternate.  I think they should just base it on match ups.  They are both righties, but there has to be enough data on opposing hitters to know which style of pitching will be more effective.  You also have to consider that Street may have an advantage against AL hitters considering he hasn't been on an AL team since 2009 and so most AL hitters haven't seen him much if at all.

When he's the closer, he's 15 for 15, he blew 4 save when he pitches in the 7th or 8th and he has allowed 10 of the 12 inherited runners to score.
 
Smith has been unhittable in the 9th, not so great in 7th or 8th, so base on stats, why moves him out of the closer role?

He's blown saves, but not in the ninth

Hmmm...not sure where you got those numbers.  Smith is 15 for 19.  He has blown 3 more saves then Street has in 6 less opportunities.

lol that guy '.199 is in your future!'

I was in Seattle a few years ago for work and had bought tickets to go to the Mariners game because they were playing the Angels. I went down to Pikes Fish Market and ran into Terry Smith and Rex Hudler. I was wearing my Angels gear so they stopped me and asked if I would take a photo of the two of them. I did and we talked for a few minutes. Hud asked for my kids names and mine and said he would mention us on the broadcast that night. I called my wife and told her to DVR the game. Sure enough in the 8th inning he mentioned my kids names and that he had run into me and told my kids that daddy missed them and I would be home soon. It was very cool of Hud to do that.
 
I don't mind the rock pile.
 
I think bunting a runner over from second to third is worth the out.

I like Giants fans.
As for Ath's fans, you'll find that most crackheads have trouble being quiet

This.
 
There is a big difference between "sports hate" and "life hate."  As an Angels fan, I have always (sports) hated the Yankees.  But sports hate really just good natured rivalries.  It's nothing like the hate Fred Goldman has for OJ Simpson. 
 
I've sports hated Jeter for his whole career, but that's only because he wasn't on my team.  He was on the Yanks!  From everything we know about him, he's a really good human being that gives great gift baskets.  I was happy for him last night.  I was happy for Mario last year.  The special attention they received during their final All Star games were well deserved.  
 
Where is the drama in sports if you can't have both a good guy and bad guy?  For every Batman, there needs to be a Joker.  It's part of the fun. 

I believe it's called h8