joeybaseball

I've been a good fan since the team was born in 1961. There were some bad teams, but hey, we had a team, so ANYTHING they did was worth having the team, win or lose. Not a lot of expectations til 1980, when the lost 95 games after winning the division the year before. That was dissapointing. But THIS year is beyond belief, with the embarrassing play (7 HR"S in a game, all with nobdy on and we lose, 9th inning blunders lately with Seattle, 5 starters in the lineup who can't hit .200, 14 game losing streak to erase a hot start, followed by the manager getting a mohawk (?) to "loosen" the guys up- what am I missing, I know there was more embarrassment than that...
This is definitely the most dissappointing and embarrassing season in the history of Angels baseball. I keep looking for where and how long ago this curse started- can't pinpoint it, there's been so much unbelievable junk and bad luck go on with team, its unbelievable. 
I just keep telling myself they got hot and won it all in 2002, they can do it again someday.
WE need an excorcist.

I've been a good fan since the team was born in 1961. There were some bad teams, but hey, we had a team, so ANYTHING they did was worth having the team, win or lose. Not a lot of expectations til 1980, when the lost 95 games after winning the division the year before. That was dissapointing. But THIS year is beyond belief, with the embarrassing play (7 HR"S in a game, all with nobdy on and we lose, 9th inning blunders lately with Seattle, 5 starters in the lineup who can't hit .200, 14 game losing streak to erase a hot start, followed by the manager getting a mohawk (?) to "loosen" the guys up- what am I missing, I know there was more embarrassment than that...
This is definitely the most dissappointing and embarrassing season in the history of Angels baseball. I keep looking for where and how long ago this curse started- can't pinpoint it, there's been so much unbelievable junk and bad luck go on with team, its unbelievable. 
I just keep telling myself they got hot and won it all in 2002, they can do it again someday.
WE need an excorcist.

I've been a good fan since the team was born in 1961. There were some bad teams, but hey, we had a team, so ANYTHING they did was worth having the team, win or lose. Not a lot of expectations til 1980, when the lost 95 games after winning the division the year before. That was dissapointing. But THIS year is beyond belief, with the embarrassing play (7 HR"S in a game, all with nobdy on and we lose, 9th inning blunders lately with Seattle, 5 starters in the lineup who can't hit .200, 14 game losing streak to erase a hot start, followed by the manager getting a mohawk (?) to "loosen" the guys up- what am I missing, I know there was more embarrassment than that...
This is definitely the most dissappointing and embarrassing season in the history of Angels baseball. I keep looking for where and how long ago this curse started- can't pinpoint it, there's been so much unbelievable junk and bad luck go on with team, its unbelievable. 
I just keep telling myself they got hot and won it all in 2002, they can do it again someday.
WE need an excorcist.

I'd like thinking that Arty has the same kind of reasoning and philosophy that all of us fans do. So many here make perfect sense with the correct logical solutions how to get out of this merry-go-round of mediocrity. But Arty has proven over the years that his mindset isn't anywhere near the logic of us fans. Our mindset is to come up with solutions how to turn the Angels into a successful organization. No, his mindset is, "how do I make the most money again this year?" The 2 mindsets rarely criss-cross or come in contact with each other, except by mistake.
Who here really believes he thinks something different?
Seriously! I'm baffled why no one answers that, or believes he feels different. As long as he has a splash or 2 in the can, has Ohtani and/or Trout bringing in the fans, why should he change his values? Its obviously not for us.
We have 2 different philosophies trying to determine how to proceed.
 

Summer of '62. Our family had moved from New York a couple of years earlier, so we were former Yankee fans.
I was 11 years old. I remember it was a Sunday- my dad, older brother and brother-in-law decided at the last minute to go see the Yankees play the Angels back when the Angels played there. I was thrilled to go.
Elston Howard was the Yankee hero, hitting 2 HR's as the Yankees beat the as the Yankees won 6-2.
After the game we went and stood with a small crowd outside the exit that the Yankees would come out ofYogi coming out first, suddenly swamped by everyone, while walking pretty fast and laughing with a smile, and Whitey Ford squatting down next to him, looking up at him, saying in a loud high voice," Yogi, can I have your autograph, please, c'mon Yogi, please..."
 I also remember I saw The Mick and many other Yankees come by.
Pretty awesome memory for a little kid like me at the time. 

Summer of '62. Our family had moved from New York a couple of years earlier, so we were former Yankee fans.
I was 11 years old. I remember it was a Sunday- my dad, older brother and brother-in-law decided at the last minute to go see the Yankees play the Angels back when the Angels played there. I was thrilled to go.
Elston Howard was the Yankee hero, hitting 2 HR's as the Yankees beat the as the Yankees won 6-2.
After the game we went and stood with a small crowd outside the exit that the Yankees would come out ofYogi coming out first, suddenly swamped by everyone, while walking pretty fast and laughing with a smile, and Whitey Ford squatting down next to him, looking up at him, saying in a loud high voice," Yogi, can I have your autograph, please, c'mon Yogi, please..."
 I also remember I saw The Mick and many other Yankees come by.
Pretty awesome memory for a little kid like me at the time. 

Summer of '62. Our family had moved from New York a couple of years earlier, so we were former Yankee fans.
I was 11 years old. I remember it was a Sunday- my dad, older brother and brother-in-law decided at the last minute to go see the Yankees play the Angels back when the Angels played there. I was thrilled to go.
Elston Howard was the Yankee hero, hitting 2 HR's as the Yankees beat the as the Yankees won 6-2.
After the game we went and stood with a small crowd outside the exit that the Yankees would come out ofYogi coming out first, suddenly swamped by everyone, while walking pretty fast and laughing with a smile, and Whitey Ford squatting down next to him, looking up at him, saying in a loud high voice," Yogi, can I have your autograph, please, c'mon Yogi, please..."
 I also remember I saw The Mick and many other Yankees come by.
Pretty awesome memory for a little kid like me at the time. 

Summer of '62. Our family had moved from New York a couple of years earlier, so we were former Yankee fans.
I was 11 years old. I remember it was a Sunday- my dad, older brother and brother-in-law decided at the last minute to go see the Yankees play the Angels back when the Angels played there. I was thrilled to go.
Elston Howard was the Yankee hero, hitting 2 HR's as the Yankees beat the as the Yankees won 6-2.
After the game we went and stood with a small crowd outside the exit that the Yankees would come out ofYogi coming out first, suddenly swamped by everyone, while walking pretty fast and laughing with a smile, and Whitey Ford squatting down next to him, looking up at him, saying in a loud high voice," Yogi, can I have your autograph, please, c'mon Yogi, please..."
 I also remember I saw The Mick and many other Yankees come by.
Pretty awesome memory for a little kid like me at the time. 

Summer of '62. Our family had moved from New York a couple of years earlier, so we were former Yankee fans.
I was 11 years old. I remember it was a Sunday- my dad, older brother and brother-in-law decided at the last minute to go see the Yankees play the Angels back when the Angels played there. I was thrilled to go.
Elston Howard was the Yankee hero, hitting 2 HR's as the Yankees beat the as the Yankees won 6-2.
After the game we went and stood with a small crowd outside the exit that the Yankees would come out ofYogi coming out first, suddenly swamped by everyone, while walking pretty fast and laughing with a smile, and Whitey Ford squatting down next to him, looking up at him, saying in a loud high voice," Yogi, can I have your autograph, please, c'mon Yogi, please..."
 I also remember I saw The Mick and many other Yankees come by.
Pretty awesome memory for a little kid like me at the time. 

Hard for some to remember or realize that (He of the 530 foot homer)Dave Kingman played about 10 games in the middle of the season for the Angels in 1977. He hit 2 hR's in one of those  games. I guess his .194 avg didn't sit well with the team, so he was traded away. Hit 48 HR's for the Cubs 2 years later.

Ernie Banks
 

Ernie Banks
 

Where is Costen Shockley?

Doesn't Pujols have another 10 years of contract with the Angels after his playing days are over? Like as an exec or in management? If thats true, I think he may retire sooner than his playing years suppose to go, and start his 10 year after-playing-days position offered by the Angels- therefore I would vote for A, since thats the closest to this scenario, with, but the understanding that he would then start his new position.

I remember watching an Angels game way back when and he played all 9 positions. There was also a game where he stole second base, and then stole back first base. The catcher didn't know what to do about that, or where to throw.  If I recall correctly (maybe I don't, but), the umps talked, and realized there was no rule against it, so the play stood.
I wonder if they ever created a rule against that. Anyways, i liked him when he played for the Angels, he was always smiling and laughing then.

I remember watching an Angels game way back when and he played all 9 positions. There was also a game where he stole second base, and then stole back first base. The catcher didn't know what to do about that, or where to throw.  If I recall correctly (maybe I don't, but), the umps talked, and realized there was no rule against it, so the play stood.
I wonder if they ever created a rule against that. Anyways, i liked him when he played for the Angels, he was always smiling and laughing then.

I remember watching an Angels game way back when and he played all 9 positions. There was also a game where he stole second base, and then stole back first base. The catcher didn't know what to do about that, or where to throw.  If I recall correctly (maybe I don't, but), the umps talked, and realized there was no rule against it, so the play stood.
I wonder if they ever created a rule against that. Anyways, i liked him when he played for the Angels, he was always smiling and laughing then.

Jered is worth more to the club than just stats.His presence on the team gives others a winning-never-give-up attitude that can be infectious. He's a warrior. His second half had many better games than the first, when his fastball ticked up a notch.
How could it be bad to give him an incentive -laid contract? 

I could see Jered winning comeback of the year with the Rangers, Mariners or even the Dodgers. And by June, I'd be reading all the whining about how Epp blew it by letting him go.
Instead, sign him for a year if he'll accept it. Don't overpay, but don't insult him by low-balling. Put in incentives. If you have to cut him by July, you won't owe him that much.

Maybe this is old news, but I found an old video of a 1972 Angel-Brewers ballgame.Dick Enberg is the announcer, great to hear him doing an Angel game again (as he was their play by play announcer in the 70's).
 
Also interesting to hear him talk about how Brewer first baseman George Scott coined the term "dinger", after others started using his first term for home runs, which was "taters". Also found an old 1972 Angel-Yankee game. Great watch if you're interested. Hope its kosher to use the url below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzC1_lJfLJ0&index=80&list=PLtcoppO4mc8v_n-D3EzDSsjJMWz2EoCCr
 

When you have been a fan for 50 years, you've pretty much seen it all.  Watching or listening to Angel games is part of my lifestyle.  It's something you just do if you can.
What I have done this season is not look at the standings.   No team could pull a rabbit out of a hat as many times as the Angels have had to when a player goes down and still contend.  

Unfortunately, with our team's policy of ignoring these international players who are ready to sign with an MLB club, it seems pointless to even point out that another player is available.