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Well whatever he's thinking ain't doing a thing

It's the dumbest thing to say but.... Actions speak louder than words. At this point the only one thing will help this team is a full rebuild without Arte.

Doesn't matter what GM or Manager comes in. 

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

I kinda hope we lose some fans.  At the end of the day this is what a rebuild looks and feels like.  

I really enjoy what the A's fans have been doing. Kinda wish we had those guts.

Wish we hired him? Glad we didn't?

On 4/27/2024 at 12:32 PM, tomsred said:

This team is not undisciplined, it is inexperienced.  Key young players here with little minor league experience.  They are trying to learn on the go, and the coaching staff is appropriate for the job.  I think many of you are used to seeing free agents filter in to the team over the years.  Unfortunately many of those guys failed.  We have not even finished the first month of a six month season.  Many of you wanted to rebuild, this is what happens as you do so.  Mistakes are going to happen.

I disagree. There are only two guys that lack experience and that's Neto and Nolan Schanuel. Everyone else has had plenty of MLB/MiLB experience.
I would add O'Hoppe, but he's been playing well.

This team has a massive amount of vets like Trout, Drury, Hicks, Sano, Estevez, Moore, Cimber, Garcia, Cisnero, Strickland, Adrianza, Rendon and Anderson.

Between the vets and the rest of the team there should be no excuse to being inexperienced.

All we are watching is a poorly built team. That's all.

Seems like COVID did him dirty. 

I can't wait for the new owner at some point to add that into the montage. I think that'd be funny as hell to hear "Arte Moreno has decided to sell the team to......." and the crowd would go wild haha

Sano will hit a homer today.

13 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Schanuel gets day off to get off his feet. Halos win big

Stepping on 1st base can be taxying on those little toes

So wait... are we rebuilding or not?

6 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Any way to do a vpn on your phone and pull the games in on mlbtv on your phone (to either watch on phone or cast up to your tv in your house)?

I use Surfshark for the phone. It's an app you can download

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

If the answer to the Trout question is no, then it doesn’t matter what you add in free agency. If this rotation isn’t strong enough to get them to the deadline then I doubt adding one guy like Snell would have made much of a difference. 
This team needs two things, one, health, two, internal growth. Without those two things free agency doesn’t really matter. 
When Eppler traded for Upton he said in the moment that the team played well enough that it deserved to be upgraded (or something to that affect). This team needs to play well enough to deserve the same thing. If not then trade Drury and all the pen arms at the deadline. 
I wanted a starter added, but I’m not going to pretend it’ll make a difference without health or Development. 

Very fair points. 

If this team can stay healthy and play the way they're supposed to then maybe we aren't far off the a WC spot. We were "close" last year.
If Trout and Rendon stay healthy then maybe come deadline time they warrant that upgrade.

This just sounds like a sales rep selling their product no matter how good or bad it is. And rightfully so for Perry. That's his job. 

But at the end of all this I still feel like this organization is blind. They've got to look at who they are competing against and realize they're a 4'3" person entering a tall person convention. 

Time will tell with the season but there are MAJOR questions i'm monitoring:
Will Trout stay healthy?
Will Rendon actually play?
Can this be Rendon's last season?
Is the rotation strong enough?
Can the beefed up bullpen actually support the rotation?
The hell happens with Adell?

2 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

l thought one of those was finished with his other contracts..

Remember those good ol' days where it was just Victor and Gubi?

@Chuck Can you just tell Victor that we miss him and it isn't the same without him??

Wayne is good, but Victor was on another level.

That Thomas kid looked pretty damn impressive. 

Does anyone else think Patrick O'Neal is extremely cringy to listen to?

I've already told the TV to shut up 3 times.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'm down to add Montgomery and Martinez. Gets us a little deeper on both sides of the game and might make others more tradable.

Does is get us into the playoffs? Probably not, but it definitely makes us more competitive without losing picks or handing out a stupid contract.

Though Perry needs to figure out how to give us playoff baseball. I'm getting tired of this.

22 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

 

One mans trash is another mans treasure

5 hours ago, ShotimeDynasty said:

PECOTA came out and projects the Angels for 74.5 Wins. If I’m not mistaken this system has no way of accounting for coaching upgrades, which for the Angels are abundant with a complete overhaul.

How might we quantify these in terms of 2024 Wins?

Wash>Nevin

EY>Haselman

Enright>Wise

J Washington>Thames

I personally think these are extremely significant upgrades that could have an enormous effect on a squad more than half full of guys 28yo and younger, especially considering last years group was likely detrimental rather than helpful 

Well shit then the coaches will get us a 90 win season with that Ron Washington attitude!!! 

JK we will be a 70 win team.

So Arte decided to keep the sale completely private? I'm not buying this at all. But if he does sell then BYE.....

13 hours ago, Stradling said:

They won’t win less games than last year if they have a normal health season. 

Your point is very true, but from an overall standpoint it's still bad. 

12 hours ago, Second Base said:

No, I don't believe they'll contend in 2023. But I do think they'll be equally as good as they were with Ohtani. I think Trout will be healthier and more productive, as will Neto, O'Hoppe and Schanuel. And the bullpen will be better. 

All of that combined will offset the singular loss of Ohtani and result in a 75-ish win team. 

Which means they'll be bad. Very bad.

What if it's an insurance move for a trade involving someone like Ward or Adell?

They could do some package with them for a pitcher then go after Bellinger. 

54 minutes ago, AngelStew43 said:

I've been on the Justin Turner signing for awhile now.  Either Turner or Votto would be an excellent mentor for Schaunel. 

Schaunel doesn't need a vet first baseman to mentor him. He's got Trout and Washington to mentor him ( if anything). 
Minasian needs to go out there and sign a bat and then trade for a starter and hopefully this team can sniff a winning record.

To sum this whole thread up in one sentence.

The Angels need to have a TON of things go right to even sniff the Wild Card.