angelsnationtalk

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

I find it hilarious we signed one of the best relievers on the market and still everyone is a total twat about it. Well done Angel fans. 

I think it's just the multi-year for a reliever part that has their panties in a bunch. I get the risk. TIme will tell.

3 hours ago, BTH said:

This just tells me how stupid Arte is.

Even if we as fans had some level of hope that he’d come back, we weren’t surprised when he left.

He’s also the guy who didn’t match the offer.

He’s literally the guy in the hot dog suit saying, “we’re all looking for the guy who did this.”

Well then what happened to Perry saying they have a "plan A, plan B and plan C"? 

Clearly Ohtani was plan A, but you've got plan B to work with. Obviously they talked about it prior to all this going down so now GO DO PLAN B. 

Or just sell the team finally and get the hell away from Anaheim, California and the West Coast.

4 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Kim played mostly 2B last season and was solid there (he won the NL Gold Glove for utility man).

You're right. Was looking at the 2022 stats. My bad!

1 hour ago, Chuck said:

 

They also said Ha-Seong Kim is on the block but it's interesting. Would Neto move to 2B? 

We are so signing Trevor Bauer now hahahahahahaha

Because Plesac has a flare for drama. 

7 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

I’d balk too on giving $700 million to someone who may or may not pitch effectively in the future (2 surgeries).

$700 million is beyond expensive for a guy who’s mainly a great DH.

To me it isn't about balking on the $700M. If Ohtani is suggesting HEAVY deferrals that lead to a $2M salary then i'd 1000000% match it if I was Arte. The dude would have sold the team by the time that payment takes effect so it wouldn't be his concern. If anything, the value of the team would be higher when trying to sell it. It's a win-win.

Keep your best player for better chances to win while flipping a bigger profit when selling the team.

On 12/27/2023 at 8:25 PM, Second Base said:

I think it's going to be a quiet off-season for the Angels. They won't want to overpay and screw their future, which is kind of what they're experiencing right now. And they've got a lot of young guys that they'll need to figure out if they're building blocks or not. Neto, O'Hoppe, Bachman, Joyce, Silseth, Moniak, Adell....

I think it's a solid bet that they'll continue to address the bullpen, and add a short term veteran bat and a back of the rotation arm and that's it. Unexciting, inexpensive and disappointing. But how else are they supposed to rebuild their depleted farm system? 

I'm just still trying to figure out what "aggressive" is supposed to mean. 
They got the last chance to dance with Ohtani and be "aggressive" and completely balked on it. 

7 minutes ago, totdprods said:

I'll mention Amed Rosario as being an interesting guy to consider too, especially if Rengifo has a real shot at being dealt.

He had a real shot of being dealt a few years ago too, but I hope it actually happens this time.

2 hours ago, EdmontonAngelsFan said:

 

Chapman isn't an outfielder....

If they're eyeballing outfield bats then someone else will be used in a trade.

19 hours ago, CartiHalos said:

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He mentions "Bellinger would give the Angels an option to cover center field if Mike Trout needs any time on the injured list" and that Bellinger is "also a marquee name who starred in LA, which could appeal to owner Arte Moreno."

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To me that just sounds like sloppy seconds. Which we all know Arte LOVES. 

I like Bellinger, just fear the price is a bit too high for him.

She's fun to look at. Leave it at that.

2 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Ok, a minor league deal makes a little more sense. 

Looks like the deal was done a week ago

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

Marisnick.

Then we should hire Jonathan Lucroy as a catching coach.

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Sign:

Clevinger

Manaea Or Montas

Justin Turner

 

Hicks

Garver

Trade Sandoval and Rengifo in a package for Burnes and Adames

This is actually very intriguing.

I do believe Clevinger can bounce back and Montas likely needed to get out of NY. To what extent? who knows.
Hicks is a perfect fit for the Angels since they love high-velo guys.
Adames/Turner/Garver are interesting options and provide much needed depth. Curious on how the SS/2B picture looks with Adames/Neto/Drury

And of course Burnes is great and a possible extension candidate. 

4 minutes ago, mmc said:

Not sure who ever said that

Among the things Robert said on The Baseball Insiders Podcast:

“[Blake] Snell did not visit the #Angels.”

That shuts down some internet speculation from Saturday. https://t.co/kSP6vP7MEN

— Beyond The Halo (@BeyondTheHalo) December 11, 2023

1 minute ago, mmc said:

 

two things:

I thought we weren't interested in him

OH GOD HERE COMES ARTE....

I'll always remember the "We Got Albert!" chants during the live press conference. 

I'm honestly surprised bullpen coaches are making only $90k and pitching coaches are between $150k-$350k. I always thought all coaches were above like $250k haha

The Dodgers are discussing a trade in which they would get RHP Tyler Glasnow and OF Manuel Margot from the Rays for RHP Ryan Pepiot and OF Jonny Deluca, sources tell @TheAthletic. Deal not complete. Changes possible. Financial exchange likely. On it: @Bnicklaus7, @AzoulayHaron

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) December 13, 2023

22 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Rumor is the Dodgers are getting Glasnow and Margot from Tampa. 

Looks like Ryan Pepiot Jonny DeLuca part of the deal if it's a real thing

If I was Perry with $73M to spend here's what i'd do:

Trade Adell + others for Bieber: +$12.2M (Est via spotrac)
Sign Montgomery: $23M AAV 
Sign Soler: $15M AAV
Sign Hicks: $8M AAV
Sign Gurriel Jr.: $13.5AAV

I think this might make us have possible shot at a WC spot.

43 minutes ago, Chuck said:

 

I'm all for this. 

Now comes the real question:
Ohtani would have solidified DH and Top rotation (2025)
Are the Angels better projected to trade for Bieber, sign Montgomery and Soler? Still is cheaper than just Ohtani.

I think so.

I'm just super curious to see how the Angels might possibly trade for Burnes, Glasnow or Bieber if they're possibly competing against the Dodgers, Blue Jays, Giants, Yankees and Mets.

Just now, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

Why don't we just sign all these dudes and defer most of their money?....

Because the Dodgers can do the same thing and actually win

7 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Arte is for sure selling this franchise in 2024. Dude can't compete with the dream he envisioned for the Angels.