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I don't know what's going on, but I do know what I've read. And what has been reported has been that Perry is controlling things from the front office. Now you may not believe Maddon, but that's what he said. And the fact that he put a Bench Coach (Montgomery) in Maddon's Dugout in his first year as GM, so he'd have influence...which was stated by Maddon, and again you choose not to believe him and believe what you think instead. Then he re-hired the interim manager, with no experience, under the guise of the impending sale, so he'd have a manager he could control.
Perry was just waiting for a reason to fire Maddon, and it was a bad decision, in my opinion.
To me when something is reported as being a duck, then walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's not a cat. It's a duck.
And one other note, I've been posting here and writing for this site since 2004. When you were maybe what 4? So maybe a little respect instead of being constantly confrontational and an arrogant know-it-all yourself. Just because you live on this board and post nearly every breaking news as soon as it's reported doesn't mean you yourself have any idea what's going on you just have twitter alerts set and this page constantly in a tab on your browser.... 
You and I don't agree and thats fine, but hey, no need to call me arrogant or my posts absurd. I don't call you out on your posts, I just disagree with them. OK?
 
 

Ray Montgomery will last one season, and then he and Minasian will both be fired. You can't manage games from the front office. You can prepare your coaches, prepare your pitchers and hitters, but you have to let them do it on their own. 
If all of you are pro-Minasian, you have to see that he did a terrible job on the field for the past three years, especially post Maddon? The Angels are 223-263 in the three years under Minasian, with Maddon was 104-114, with Perry 119-149.... In a few more games, they were 30 games under with Nevin and Minasian calling the games from the front office.
They had the AL MVP 2x in that span. And Trout, who when healthy is still a top 10 player in the league. Maybe Minasian isn't doing a good job calling it from the front office?
 

Yah screw this. Analytics-only sucks and GM overreaching is a huge problem. 

Some of my issues with overreaching have to do with my own management (non-baseball) career. I believe firmly in delegating and letting my employees do their thing. I hate micro management and one of my own bosses is the epitome of this. (One is a micro manager and the other is a delegator, I get along much better with the delegator). Micro management is so annoying and is among the worst traits in management. 
Whomever the front office hires, they need to trust to give them the data and the details and let them manage the game. They also need a huge overhaul in their own analytic process, as these are not all equal. Clearly the Dodgers or Rays are doing something the Angels aren't. They need to emulate that.
This also goes for Arte and Carpino as well. Trust your employees to do their best and delegate responsibilities.

Some of my issues with overreaching have to do with my own management (non-baseball) career. I believe firmly in delegating and letting my employees do their thing. I hate micro management and one of my own bosses is the epitome of this. (One is a micro manager and the other is a delegator, I get along much better with the delegator). Micro management is so annoying and is among the worst traits in management. 
Whomever the front office hires, they need to trust to give them the data and the details and let them manage the game. They also need a huge overhaul in their own analytic process, as these are not all equal. Clearly the Dodgers or Rays are doing something the Angels aren't. They need to emulate that.
This also goes for Arte and Carpino as well. Trust your employees to do their best and delegate responsibilities.

Yah screw this. Analytics-only sucks and GM overreaching is a huge problem. 

Yah screw this. Analytics-only sucks and GM overreaching is a huge problem. 

Celebrity managers are a thing of the past. Nowadays the GM wants to run the show with analytics etc. and the field manager has to be willing to accept that.

This is harsh.  
I can honestly say that with health there isn’t a non major league position player as a starter.  We don’t even need to be 100% healthy for there to be a major leaguer at each offensive position.  
O’Hoppe
Schanuel
Drury
Neto
Rengifo/Rendon
Ward
Trout
Moniak
Adell 
Those are all major leaguers.  
Also signing Ohtani doesn’t give you exactly what you had this year, because young players develop.  We have more young players than older players.  We at most will have 3 every day starters over the age of 30 in Drury, Trout and Rendon.  

I didn’t love Weiss when he managed the Rockies, but to be fair I wasn’t really following that closely.
Anyway, he has managerial experience.  
And now he just spent five years as a bench coach for the Braves, a damn good organization.
I bet he is a real candidate for being a manager again somewhere in 2024.
 
 

mmhmm
 

Just can the fat man now. 

Almost.

@Swordsman78 on suicide watch

Maybe the case can be made that the injuries wrecked this team, but honestly, the Rangers had major injuries, the Astros did as well, and they both made the playoffs. The Dodgers used 39 pitchers. 61 total players, and they won their division.
The Angels need to improve the periphery of the club, in regards to nutrition, training staff, etc. They need a new Baseball guy in charge of everything, and let Moreno fade to the back like he wants. If he's not gonna sell.

Maybe the case can be made that the injuries wrecked this team, but honestly, the Rangers had major injuries, the Astros did as well, and they both made the playoffs. The Dodgers used 39 pitchers. 61 total players, and they won their division.
The Angels need to improve the periphery of the club, in regards to nutrition, training staff, etc. They need a new Baseball guy in charge of everything, and let Moreno fade to the back like he wants. If he's not gonna sell.

I want a baseball guy running the whole show. Not just a GM who has to answer to several folks, like Carpino or Kuhl or Moreno. The Owner needs to take a step back, and let a baseball guy run everything. 
If you think that's Perry, sure, but I don't.

I don't know a job that you can fail this badly for three years and expect to be back. Stoneman took over a team and won the World Series in year 2. So it can be done. 
The farm / scouting may have been better in the 90's but the team very much operated as a mid market under Autry and Disney...they didn't spend the way Arte has on payroll. 
What they need is a President of Baseball Ops, and a new GM, someone entrusted to run the entire operations department and keep Carpino and Kuhl out of the media, and keep Arte out of spending, etc. They need to redo the scouting departments, embrace technology and analytics (but keep out of in game decisions, the divide needs to be clear). They need to emulate the Dodgers front office and work to build the whole organization back into a consistent winner.

I don't know a job that you can fail this badly for three years and expect to be back. Stoneman took over a team and won the World Series in year 2. So it can be done. 
The farm / scouting may have been better in the 90's but the team very much operated as a mid market under Autry and Disney...they didn't spend the way Arte has on payroll. 
What they need is a President of Baseball Ops, and a new GM, someone entrusted to run the entire operations department and keep Carpino and Kuhl out of the media, and keep Arte out of spending, etc. They need to redo the scouting departments, embrace technology and analytics (but keep out of in game decisions, the divide needs to be clear). They need to emulate the Dodgers front office and work to build the whole organization back into a consistent winner.

I don't know a job that you can fail this badly for three years and expect to be back. Stoneman took over a team and won the World Series in year 2. So it can be done. 
The farm / scouting may have been better in the 90's but the team very much operated as a mid market under Autry and Disney...they didn't spend the way Arte has on payroll. 
What they need is a President of Baseball Ops, and a new GM, someone entrusted to run the entire operations department and keep Carpino and Kuhl out of the media, and keep Arte out of spending, etc. They need to redo the scouting departments, embrace technology and analytics (but keep out of in game decisions, the divide needs to be clear). They need to emulate the Dodgers front office and work to build the whole organization back into a consistent winner.

I don't know a job that you can fail this badly for three years and expect to be back. Stoneman took over a team and won the World Series in year 2. So it can be done. 
The farm / scouting may have been better in the 90's but the team very much operated as a mid market under Autry and Disney...they didn't spend the way Arte has on payroll. 
What they need is a President of Baseball Ops, and a new GM, someone entrusted to run the entire operations department and keep Carpino and Kuhl out of the media, and keep Arte out of spending, etc. They need to redo the scouting departments, embrace technology and analytics (but keep out of in game decisions, the divide needs to be clear). They need to emulate the Dodgers front office and work to build the whole organization back into a consistent winner.

If Arte fires Minasian it will set the club back another four year cycle. That is how long it takes for any GM to make a real change in the way the organization runs.
Minasian has created change from the minor leagues working up. With support for his long term plan the Angels may be able to break the cycle of hiring half a team of free agents and actually create a cost effective roster. 
But that requires Moreno to change with the GM instead of negating any moves by over spending on free agents while under budgeting the farm and analytics department. Moreno has to change, you can't buy championships. You have to build that team from the ground up. 

Please be Fatassian. Please be Fatassian.

Almost 100%, that is hilarious.  I could see one scenario where the odds are “almost 100%” and that is if Arte publicly puts the team back on the market.  Other than that there is 0% chance he is almost 100% going to be back.  (60% of the time it works every time)
 

You are all wasting intellectual capital. It is almost 100% he will be back.