AngelsFanSince86

I'm hoping that they are willing to go over this year. On a one year deal it means $50M is coming off the books between Syndergaard and Upton next year. They are going to need more than the $30M or so left to get another starter and still fill all their other needs.

I'm hoping that they are willing to go over this year. On a one year deal it means $50M is coming off the books between Syndergaard and Upton next year. They are going to need more than the $30M or so left to get another starter and still fill all their other needs.

Speaking for myself, I am not eager to trade Adell/Marsh.
I simply am willing to trade one of them if it is necessary in order to get a front-end SP, because that is what the Angels need.
Even if Adell/Marsh become 3-4 WAR outfielders, it's easier to find and sign that production in free agency than it is to find and sign front-line SP.

Can we change ownership of the team?

Go with the retro unis from last weekend

Yawn. Same old song and dance. The Aerosmith song is better than the last 12 years of the Angels. What Arte Moreno has done and continues to do does not make your team better. Teams that sell off when they are supposed to and rebuild generally start winning and getting to the playoffs. Recent examples are the Giants and Red Sox off the top of my head. There are others and it's proof that Arte's strategy doesn't work. There are reasons that many articles have been written about how he is wasting the talents of 2 once in a generation players he has on his team. You'd think someone that wants to actually get to the playoffs and win a World Series would change his tactics that haven't worked out but you'd be sorely mistaken.
Also, some of the teams mentioned have very small payroll and play in smaller markets so they run things differently.

I don't hate what he did. I hate what he didn't do.

I don't hate what he did. I hate what he didn't do.

I don't hate what he did. I hate what he didn't do.

I don't hate what he did. I hate what he didn't do.

F. He may have done a nice job with the Heaney and Watson trades, but ultimately they don't move the needle. He had a chance to get a potential impact prospect for less than half a season of Iglesias and didn't do it. Instead they'll still miss the playoffs, but likely win a few more games than they would without Iglesias thereby lowering their draft position as well. Angels have perfected the art of mediocrity.

I don't hate what he did. I hate what he didn't do.

F. He may have done a nice job with the Heaney and Watson trades, but ultimately they don't move the needle. He had a chance to get a potential impact prospect for less than half a season of Iglesias and didn't do it. Instead they'll still miss the playoffs, but likely win a few more games than they would without Iglesias thereby lowering their draft position as well. Angels have perfected the art of mediocrity.

I don't hate what he did. I hate what he didn't do.

Having a vastly negative run differential is a reason to doubt. Not being a true seller when your team has been terrible against over .500 teams is reason to doubt. Building the terrible bullpen he built is reason to doubt. 

All out sellers? Lol
Trading Cobb and/or Iglesias, who are free agents at the end of this season is not going all out. It's selling the pieces that will likely be gone anyways. They could have traded for really good pitching prospects instead of "roll-the-dice" type prospects that they got in the trades they made.  That would be focusing on pitching. 
It isn't being healthy that's the issue. Every team deals with pitching injuries every year. It's about building your farm so you have cost controlled pitching depth. Part of that is done through the draft and good teams also increase that depth by trading rentals like Cobb and Iglesias when they have a long shot of making they playoffs like the Angels this season. 
 

F. He may have done a nice job with the Heaney and Watson trades, but ultimately they don't move the needle. He had a chance to get a potential impact prospect for less than half a season of Iglesias and didn't do it. Instead they'll still miss the playoffs, but likely win a few more games than they would without Iglesias thereby lowering their draft position as well. Angels have perfected the art of mediocrity.

Having a vastly negative run differential is a reason to doubt. Not being a true seller when your team has been terrible against over .500 teams is reason to doubt. Building the terrible bullpen he built is reason to doubt. 

I don't hate what he did. I hate what he didn't do.

I don't hate what he did. I hate what he didn't do.

Unfortunately, that's the mentality that has kept the Angels from the postseason. It's short-sighted.

F. He may have done a nice job with the Heaney and Watson trades, but ultimately they don't move the needle. He had a chance to get a potential impact prospect for less than half a season of Iglesias and didn't do it. Instead they'll still miss the playoffs, but likely win a few more games than they would without Iglesias thereby lowering their draft position as well. Angels have perfected the art of mediocrity.

It’s not big brained to “compromise” on an obvious need or course of action.  He should have sold off.  He didn’t use his most valuable chip.  Very sad. 

The Angels are not going to make the postseason and they have a relief pitcher having a really good season who will be a free agent.
I would like to say that it is mind-blowing that they didn't trade him... but it's really not. 

why can't people understand that an expiring contract has no value for 2022? we're not going to the playoffs in 2021. their contracts expire at the end of this season. sell them, get the better prospects that your few desirable players can bring you, then resign the motherfuckers in the offseason if you want them back. players go to who offers them the most money, keeping them for the rest of 2021 doesn't change that. there is rarely a hometown discount.