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    instant karma got a reaction from Angel Oracle in Help me write a story!   
    The problem is more offense versus pitching or defense related.   Interestingly, at the start of the season, the Angels had an offensive lineup which was strong typically from 1 to 7 or 1-8.  They were getting production up and down their lineup.  The lineup featured Rendon and Adell.  The lineup didn't feature players like Velasquez and Legares.  They have gone from a strong overall batting order to one in which too much is being asked of hitters 1 to 4 because the lower half of the order cannot produce over a .200 batting average. That's an unrealistic expectation for any club that wants to compete for a playoff spot.  I don't understand the choices the angles have made with their roster.
    Yes, Andrew Velasquez is an outstanding defensive shortstop.  Yes, you can afford to have a limited offensive player start every day in return for defensive expertise.  That's said, you cannot start four players (Velasquez, Marsh, our 3rd baseman, and Stassi/Suzuki) with limited offensive ability (i.e. hitting .250 or less) on a game to game basis. That's what we are dong currently and that's a primary cause of our struggles.
    Given the loss of Redon, I would move Ward to third.  Presto, you have a decent hitting third baseman.  Rather than Legares, I would use Adell in right despite his defensive shortcomings.  Adell brings an energy to the lineup (and power).   I'd play Duffey at 2nd until Fletcher returns.  By moving Ward to third and placing Adell in right you stregthen our overall lineup.  I'd rather have Mayfield at short than Velasquez.  Mayfield can typically hit at the .250 level which is a lot more than we are getting out Velazquez.
    Unless you're then 69 Mets, you can't have as many poor hitters playing every day unless you have Seaver, Koosman, Ryan and Gentry as your starting rotation.
     
     
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    instant karma got a reaction from stormngt in Where is Taylor Ward?   
    I keep asking.  Given his hitting in last years short season, his hitting in spring training and his gold glove level defense at 3rd, why wouldn’t he be used at 3rd versus Gosselin?  I am baffled for weeks.
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    instant karma got a reaction from OhtaniSan in Who will win RF?   
    Trying to understand why Taylor Ward was not the player called up after Fowler’s injury.  He hit well (be it a small sample size) last year and hit the cover off the ball thus Spring.  I appreciate the Rojas story, but to me, Ward, to date, has shown to be a better hitter.  He can play both corner outfield positions, is a gold glove caliber third baseman in Rendon’s absence and can fill in at 2nd and first.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Slegnaac in RIP Tom Seaver   
    Very sad.  Grew up in Queens.  Went to see a doubleheader at Shea.  Seaver threw a 2 hitter in game one.  Nolan Ryan pitched a 3 hitter in game 2.  Field level seats were $4.00.  Just a great pitcher and part of my childhood.  Rest In Peace, Tom Terrific.
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    instant karma got a reaction from fan_since79 in RIP Tom Seaver   
    Very sad.  Grew up in Queens.  Went to see a doubleheader at Shea.  Seaver threw a 2 hitter in game one.  Nolan Ryan pitched a 3 hitter in game 2.  Field level seats were $4.00.  Just a great pitcher and part of my childhood.  Rest In Peace, Tom Terrific.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Junkballer in RIP Tom Seaver   
    Very sad.  Grew up in Queens.  Went to see a doubleheader at Shea.  Seaver threw a 2 hitter in game one.  Nolan Ryan pitched a 3 hitter in game 2.  Field level seats were $4.00.  Just a great pitcher and part of my childhood.  Rest In Peace, Tom Terrific.
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    instant karma got a reaction from failos in RIP Tom Seaver   
    Very sad.  Grew up in Queens.  Went to see a doubleheader at Shea.  Seaver threw a 2 hitter in game one.  Nolan Ryan pitched a 3 hitter in game 2.  Field level seats were $4.00.  Just a great pitcher and part of my childhood.  Rest In Peace, Tom Terrific.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Tank in RIP Tom Seaver   
    Very sad.  Grew up in Queens.  Went to see a doubleheader at Shea.  Seaver threw a 2 hitter in game one.  Nolan Ryan pitched a 3 hitter in game 2.  Field level seats were $4.00.  Just a great pitcher and part of my childhood.  Rest In Peace, Tom Terrific.
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    instant karma got a reaction from angelsnationtalk in Starting Pitching   
    Dear Friends:
    I like Billy Eppler.  I have defended and supported Billy Eppler.  Billy has done some good things like developing our minor league system.  Some of his trades have been good.  All that said, he’s done a terrible job at creating/developing a high level starting pitching staff.  Again, I have been an Eppler supporter until now.  I was wrong.  The most important thing (in my view) if you want to win is to have quality starting pitching.  I grew up a Mets fan in the late 60’s living in Queens.  The Mets had little offense but were in most games due to their starting pitching.  Maybe we were wrong to rag on Dipoto when he was fired.  It looks like he’s developed a pretty good team and a pretty good starting staff in Seattle.  It looks like what he’s done is pretty remarkable in terms of how quickly he’s remade that team.  Seattle certainly seems like a better team than the Angels are—at least to me.  So, I believe I was wrong about Eppler.  Whoever we hire as GM, must be outstanding at drafting/ developing starting pitching. We have lacked that and thats been the primary problem.  A strong Starting staff is essential to a winning team.  I welcome your feedback.
     
     
     
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    instant karma got a reaction from Angel Oracle in The Angels are calling up Jo Adell   
    Salary aside, I’d rather keep Goodwin’s bat in the lineup than Upton.  As Tommy Lasorda once said about Kurt Bevaqua (probable misspelling of last name), “he couldn’t hit water if he fell off a boat.”  Upton looks lost at the plate.  He looks unable to hit a breaking ball.  I hope I’m wrong about Upton but right now he’s not helping the offense.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Vegas Halo Fan in FIRE EPPLER   
    I appear to be in the minority.  You will regret the firing of Eppler--especially if Dombrowski is hired, as has been rumored.  Dombrowski destroys farm systems. 
    Eppler has made some mistakes.  All GMs do.  Bill Stoneman made mistakes, but he also signed/drafted the team that won the World series. 
    I thought the Ausmus hiring was uninspired.  I said so at the time (as did many others).  Cozart was a huge mistake (obviously).  Eppler rebulit the farm system.  That's huge.  Eppler was responsible for the Ohtani signing.  Trout said one of the primary reasons he signed his extension was because he bought into Eppler's long-term vision.  The trade/signings of Simmons, Goodwin, Castro, Rendon, Bundy, Buttrey, Canning, Robles, and Rengifo were all positive. 
    If he does get let go, the next GM will inherit one of the best and youngest outfields in baseball next year with Trout and Adell.  The new GM will probably inherit one of the better and youngest infields as well with Thaiss at first, Rengifo at second, Fletcher at short, Rendon at third and an unknown at this point at catcher. 
    We will have gone from one of of the oldest teams to one of the youngest teams under Eppler.  With that all set, Eppler will be able to focus on starting pitching.  We have 2 young pitchers in Ohtani and Canning.  I like the Bundy signing.  Most baseball people agree Bundy needed a change of scenery.  You guys are so negative.  
    We are not even two weeks into the season.  We have played 8 games.  In that time, Rendon missed 4 of the 8 and Trout's missed 2.  I know it's a shortened season, but geez, you can't make decisions based on 8 games.  I am optimistic that the Mariners  will  be a non-contender and I believe Houston over the 60 day season will feel the loss of both Verlander and Cole.  It's hard to replace those 35 wins and lose what was probably the best one and two in all of baseball.  Not only that, the needle is going in the wrong direction for the Astros.  Verlander will be a year older next year as will Grienke, they have no draft choices next year, they lost the GM that built their team and they will have to trade some of their key players over the next year due to payroll constraints.  Oakland being a small market team can never afford to keep their stars. So you know that they will likely lose their shortstop and another of their top players over the off season.
    God help us if Moreno signs Dave Dombrowski as GM and partners with Tony Larussa.  The Diamondbacks had enough of Larussa after a few years.    
    Go Angels.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Tank in New GM and manager for 2021   
    I appear to be in the minority.  You will regret the firing of Eppler--especially if Dombrowski is hired, as has been rumored.  Dombrowski destroys farm systems. 
    Eppler has made some mistakes.  All GMs do.  Bill Stoneman made mistakes, but he also signed/drafted the team that won the World series. 
    I thought the Ausmus hiring was uninspired.  I said so at the time (as did many others).  Cozart was a huge mistake (obviously).  Eppler rebulit the farm system.  That's huge.  Eppler was responsible for the Ohtani signing.  Trout said one of the primary reasons he signed his extension was because he bought into Eppler's long-term vision.  The trade/signings of Simmons, Goodwin, Castro, Rendon, Bundy, Buttrey, Canning, Robles, and Rengifo were all positive. 
    If he does get let go, the next GM will inherit one of the best and youngest outfields in baseball next year with Trout and Adell.  The new GM will probably inherit one of the better and youngest infields as well with Thaiss at first, Rengifo at second, Fletcher at short, Rendon at third and an unknown at this point at catcher. 
    We will have gone from one of of the oldest teams to one of the youngest teams under Eppler.  With that all set, Eppler will be able to focus on starting pitching.  We have 2 young pitchers in Ohtani and Canning.  I like the Bundy signing.  Most baseball people agree Bundy needed a change of scenery.  You guys are so negative.  
    We are not even two weeks into the season.  We have played 8 games.  In that time, Rendon missed 4 of the 8 and Trout's missed 2.  I know it's a shortened season, but geez, you can't make decisions based on 8 games.  I am optimistic that the Mariners  will  be a non-contender and I believe Houston over the 60 day season will feel the loss of both Verlander and Cole.  It's hard to replace those 35 wins and lose what was probably the best one and two in all of baseball.  Not only that, the needle is going in the wrong direction for the Astros.  Verlander will be a year older next year as will Grienke, they have no draft choices next year, they lost the GM that built their team and they will have to trade some of their key players over the next year due to payroll constraints.  Oakland being a small market team can never afford to keep their stars. So you know that they will likely lose their shortstop and another of their top players over the off season.
    God help us if Moreno signs Dave Dombrowski as GM and partners with Tony Larussa.  The Diamondbacks had enough of Larussa after a few years.    
    Go Angels.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Taylor in New GM and manager for 2021   
    I appear to be in the minority.  You will regret the firing of Eppler--especially if Dombrowski is hired, as has been rumored.  Dombrowski destroys farm systems. 
    Eppler has made some mistakes.  All GMs do.  Bill Stoneman made mistakes, but he also signed/drafted the team that won the World series. 
    I thought the Ausmus hiring was uninspired.  I said so at the time (as did many others).  Cozart was a huge mistake (obviously).  Eppler rebulit the farm system.  That's huge.  Eppler was responsible for the Ohtani signing.  Trout said one of the primary reasons he signed his extension was because he bought into Eppler's long-term vision.  The trade/signings of Simmons, Goodwin, Castro, Rendon, Bundy, Buttrey, Canning, Robles, and Rengifo were all positive. 
    If he does get let go, the next GM will inherit one of the best and youngest outfields in baseball next year with Trout and Adell.  The new GM will probably inherit one of the better and youngest infields as well with Thaiss at first, Rengifo at second, Fletcher at short, Rendon at third and an unknown at this point at catcher. 
    We will have gone from one of of the oldest teams to one of the youngest teams under Eppler.  With that all set, Eppler will be able to focus on starting pitching.  We have 2 young pitchers in Ohtani and Canning.  I like the Bundy signing.  Most baseball people agree Bundy needed a change of scenery.  You guys are so negative.  
    We are not even two weeks into the season.  We have played 8 games.  In that time, Rendon missed 4 of the 8 and Trout's missed 2.  I know it's a shortened season, but geez, you can't make decisions based on 8 games.  I am optimistic that the Mariners  will  be a non-contender and I believe Houston over the 60 day season will feel the loss of both Verlander and Cole.  It's hard to replace those 35 wins and lose what was probably the best one and two in all of baseball.  Not only that, the needle is going in the wrong direction for the Astros.  Verlander will be a year older next year as will Grienke, they have no draft choices next year, they lost the GM that built their team and they will have to trade some of their key players over the next year due to payroll constraints.  Oakland being a small market team can never afford to keep their stars. So you know that they will likely lose their shortstop and another of their top players over the off season.
    God help us if Moreno signs Dave Dombrowski as GM and partners with Tony Larussa.  The Diamondbacks had enough of Larussa after a few years.    
    Go Angels.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Chuck in Questioning our Teams Direction   
    Dear Fellow Angels Fans,
    I love the Angels.  I have followed them since the mid 1970s.
    I have not submitted a post since about a year ago.  That was after Scoiscia was let go.  I submitted a post with the heading, Be careful of what you ask for. concerning his being let go.  I have not been overly impressed with Ausmus.  Yes, I know we have had injuries and tragic losses this year.  That said, Ausmus still doesn't overwhelm me as a leader.
    I have questions/concerns after watching this team throughout the season.  I apologize if any to all questions have been addressed in prior posts.
    1) Our Minor League System:  Although Billy Eppler is regularly given credit for revamping our farm system,  how good is it really?  From where I sit, the players we have brought up have all regrettably  UNDER performed.  Thaiss, Walsh and Ward,  are hitting at a 200 level.  Rengifo is hitting at a 240 level.    Are any of these individuals going to mature into major league hitters?  I don't know.  For the Angels to be successful, we need at least 2 of our young hitters to improve significantly in 2020.  At least, that's what I think.  I can't think of one starting pitcher we have brought up from the minors who has been impressive.  Compare that with the young pitchers that have been brought up by Oakland, Cleveland, the Yankees, the Dodgers,  the Rays, etc.  It's depressing.
    I ask myself the question, why has Oakland, the Yankees, the Indians, etc, rebuilt  their teams via the farm system without enduring any significant down time, while we spin our wheels?  Oakland is especially amazing.  They are going to be a force for years to come with their young talent.  
    2) Our 2020 Infield:  I have questions about 3rd and second.  I know Albert will be at 1st and I suspect Simmons will remain with us at short.  We have Fletcher, La Stella and Rengifo who are all 2nd baseman.  To me, Fletcher needs to be our 2nd baseman.  It's his natural position.  He clearly has shown he can hit.  Yes, you can move him to 3rd base, but he has no power--which makes him more appropriate at 2nd.  If Fletcher is our 2nd baseman, than Rengifo has no position on the team and La Stella probably doesn't as well.    If we want to be competitive in 2020, and if we keep Simmons,  I believe we have to an infield of Albert at 1st, Fletcher at 2nd, Simmons at short, and I have no idea at 3rd.  Between now and the start of next year, the Angels need to locate a viable 3rd baseman.
    I'm not here to bitch, but what are we doing?  I'm just not seeing any significant improvement over the past couple of years.  I had high hopes for the the guys in our farm system, but so far I have seen bupkus.
    Let's not even go down the path of pitch counts.  I hate this 60 pitch limit and I think Gubicza and Rojas hate it as well.  Who decided that a 60 pitch for young pitchers was a good idea or taking a pitcher out who has good stuff out at 100 pitches?  What evidence that 125 pitches is more harmful than 100 pitches.  Jesus.
    I hope the Angels do great in 2020.  I'm just not brimming with optimism based on my eyeball test.  Best to you all.
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    instant karma got a reaction from John Taylor in Questioning our Teams Direction   
    Dear Fellow Angels Fans,
    I love the Angels.  I have followed them since the mid 1970s.
    I have not submitted a post since about a year ago.  That was after Scoiscia was let go.  I submitted a post with the heading, Be careful of what you ask for. concerning his being let go.  I have not been overly impressed with Ausmus.  Yes, I know we have had injuries and tragic losses this year.  That said, Ausmus still doesn't overwhelm me as a leader.
    I have questions/concerns after watching this team throughout the season.  I apologize if any to all questions have been addressed in prior posts.
    1) Our Minor League System:  Although Billy Eppler is regularly given credit for revamping our farm system,  how good is it really?  From where I sit, the players we have brought up have all regrettably  UNDER performed.  Thaiss, Walsh and Ward,  are hitting at a 200 level.  Rengifo is hitting at a 240 level.    Are any of these individuals going to mature into major league hitters?  I don't know.  For the Angels to be successful, we need at least 2 of our young hitters to improve significantly in 2020.  At least, that's what I think.  I can't think of one starting pitcher we have brought up from the minors who has been impressive.  Compare that with the young pitchers that have been brought up by Oakland, Cleveland, the Yankees, the Dodgers,  the Rays, etc.  It's depressing.
    I ask myself the question, why has Oakland, the Yankees, the Indians, etc, rebuilt  their teams via the farm system without enduring any significant down time, while we spin our wheels?  Oakland is especially amazing.  They are going to be a force for years to come with their young talent.  
    2) Our 2020 Infield:  I have questions about 3rd and second.  I know Albert will be at 1st and I suspect Simmons will remain with us at short.  We have Fletcher, La Stella and Rengifo who are all 2nd baseman.  To me, Fletcher needs to be our 2nd baseman.  It's his natural position.  He clearly has shown he can hit.  Yes, you can move him to 3rd base, but he has no power--which makes him more appropriate at 2nd.  If Fletcher is our 2nd baseman, than Rengifo has no position on the team and La Stella probably doesn't as well.    If we want to be competitive in 2020, and if we keep Simmons,  I believe we have to an infield of Albert at 1st, Fletcher at 2nd, Simmons at short, and I have no idea at 3rd.  Between now and the start of next year, the Angels need to locate a viable 3rd baseman.
    I'm not here to bitch, but what are we doing?  I'm just not seeing any significant improvement over the past couple of years.  I had high hopes for the the guys in our farm system, but so far I have seen bupkus.
    Let's not even go down the path of pitch counts.  I hate this 60 pitch limit and I think Gubicza and Rojas hate it as well.  Who decided that a 60 pitch for young pitchers was a good idea or taking a pitcher out who has good stuff out at 100 pitches?  What evidence that 125 pitches is more harmful than 100 pitches.  Jesus.
    I hope the Angels do great in 2020.  I'm just not brimming with optimism based on my eyeball test.  Best to you all.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Taylor in Mike Scioscia --Contrarian Thoughts   
    That's the problem with some fans.  For the love of god, the man managed the team for 19 years.  Of course, he made a staffing mistake now and then.  Who wouldn't.  You are evaluating hundreds, if not thousands of players over that period of time in the minors and majors.   You, like most of the people on this site have unrealistic expectations.  You people want to focus on a specific mistake versus the scope of his work over close to a 20 year period.  God help us.
    How the heck do you know that Sosh was heavily involved in the Vernon Wells deal?   Tell us what inside sources you have that allow you state that so forcefully?
    Yes, I suspect that Napoli may not have a great opinion on Sosh.  That's one player in 19 years and I suspect that Sosh may regret his decision on Napoli.  I'll take his batting average on player evaluation over 19 years if all you can provide is Napoli (and Mathis and I'll grant a few other players).
    Yikes.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Taylor in Mike Scioscia --Contrarian Thoughts   
    Thank you, Jeff.  I always enjoy reading your work.  Enjoy your off-season.
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    instant karma got a reaction from Taylor in Mike Scioscia --Contrarian Thoughts   
    Dear Fellow Angels Supporters:
    Under the heading, be careful of what you ask for, as you may get it, Mike Scioscia is gone, just as many of you have been so anxious to see for years.  
    I recognize that I may receive hate mail, but I believe Mike was a really good manager.  Here are my reasons (not in any particular priority order):
     
    His players loved him, even when they had losing seasons.  In 19 years, he never lost the club house.  That is amazing.  Orlando Cabrera said he was the best manager he ever played for.  Torri Hunter,  Juston Upton,   Garrett Anderson, Mike Trout, Otani, etc, --they all loved playing for Mike.  Lots of manager lose the clubhouse when seasons go south.  That never happened with the Angels under Sosh.  To me, that says something about his ability to manage the clubhouse. You can't blame Mike for the past 3 seasons,  How can a team win when four fifths of their starting rotation is gone for the season.  I think it's incredible that the team was as good as it was last year and this year they projected a rotation of Richards, Otani, Skaggs, Ramirez, and Shoemaker.  Basically, except for Skaggs, the rest were out for the year and Skaggs had at least 3 stints on the DL.  You take 4 starters out of most teams, and I think they may have trouble competing.  Yes, I know Oakland managed it this year, but I suggest that is an outlier. I think it's amazing how Sosh developed quality bullpens despite significant injuries over the years.  Last year, Street basically missed the entire season.  This year, Kenyon Middleton  missed the season.   His players love the guy, his peers respect the guy as as very knowledgeable, and the Angels fans have, by and large, ripped him since I have been on this site.  I really don't get it.  When he had talent, the team won.  When his team was destroyed by injuries they often were still in the hunt late in the season.  And most importantly, to me, it speaks volumes that in 19 years he never list the clubhouse.  That is very rare.
    It's not his fault the club signed Josh Hamilton, Pujols and Vernon Wells.  He and the entire club suffered as a result.  It's not his fault that Dipoto savaged the farm system , leaving the Angels with little talent to draw on for years. 
    Of course, I hope the Angels select a great manager and I am confident they will.  They should be much improved next year, as many of their pitchers are set to return (Ramirez, Shoemaker, Bridwell, Middleton, Meyer).
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    instant karma got a reaction from TEvans in Mike Scioscia --Contrarian Thoughts   
    Dear Fellow Angels Supporters:
    Under the heading, be careful of what you ask for, as you may get it, Mike Scioscia is gone, just as many of you have been so anxious to see for years.  
    I recognize that I may receive hate mail, but I believe Mike was a really good manager.  Here are my reasons (not in any particular priority order):
     
    His players loved him, even when they had losing seasons.  In 19 years, he never lost the club house.  That is amazing.  Orlando Cabrera said he was the best manager he ever played for.  Torri Hunter,  Juston Upton,   Garrett Anderson, Mike Trout, Otani, etc, --they all loved playing for Mike.  Lots of manager lose the clubhouse when seasons go south.  That never happened with the Angels under Sosh.  To me, that says something about his ability to manage the clubhouse. You can't blame Mike for the past 3 seasons,  How can a team win when four fifths of their starting rotation is gone for the season.  I think it's incredible that the team was as good as it was last year and this year they projected a rotation of Richards, Otani, Skaggs, Ramirez, and Shoemaker.  Basically, except for Skaggs, the rest were out for the year and Skaggs had at least 3 stints on the DL.  You take 4 starters out of most teams, and I think they may have trouble competing.  Yes, I know Oakland managed it this year, but I suggest that is an outlier. I think it's amazing how Sosh developed quality bullpens despite significant injuries over the years.  Last year, Street basically missed the entire season.  This year, Kenyon Middleton  missed the season.   His players love the guy, his peers respect the guy as as very knowledgeable, and the Angels fans have, by and large, ripped him since I have been on this site.  I really don't get it.  When he had talent, the team won.  When his team was destroyed by injuries they often were still in the hunt late in the season.  And most importantly, to me, it speaks volumes that in 19 years he never list the clubhouse.  That is very rare.
    It's not his fault the club signed Josh Hamilton, Pujols and Vernon Wells.  He and the entire club suffered as a result.  It's not his fault that Dipoto savaged the farm system , leaving the Angels with little talent to draw on for years. 
    Of course, I hope the Angels select a great manager and I am confident they will.  They should be much improved next year, as many of their pitchers are set to return (Ramirez, Shoemaker, Bridwell, Middleton, Meyer).
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    instant karma got a reaction from Torridd in Mike Scioscia --Contrarian Thoughts   
    Dear Fellow Angels Supporters:
    Under the heading, be careful of what you ask for, as you may get it, Mike Scioscia is gone, just as many of you have been so anxious to see for years.  
    I recognize that I may receive hate mail, but I believe Mike was a really good manager.  Here are my reasons (not in any particular priority order):
     
    His players loved him, even when they had losing seasons.  In 19 years, he never lost the club house.  That is amazing.  Orlando Cabrera said he was the best manager he ever played for.  Torri Hunter,  Juston Upton,   Garrett Anderson, Mike Trout, Otani, etc, --they all loved playing for Mike.  Lots of manager lose the clubhouse when seasons go south.  That never happened with the Angels under Sosh.  To me, that says something about his ability to manage the clubhouse. You can't blame Mike for the past 3 seasons,  How can a team win when four fifths of their starting rotation is gone for the season.  I think it's incredible that the team was as good as it was last year and this year they projected a rotation of Richards, Otani, Skaggs, Ramirez, and Shoemaker.  Basically, except for Skaggs, the rest were out for the year and Skaggs had at least 3 stints on the DL.  You take 4 starters out of most teams, and I think they may have trouble competing.  Yes, I know Oakland managed it this year, but I suggest that is an outlier. I think it's amazing how Sosh developed quality bullpens despite significant injuries over the years.  Last year, Street basically missed the entire season.  This year, Kenyon Middleton  missed the season.   His players love the guy, his peers respect the guy as as very knowledgeable, and the Angels fans have, by and large, ripped him since I have been on this site.  I really don't get it.  When he had talent, the team won.  When his team was destroyed by injuries they often were still in the hunt late in the season.  And most importantly, to me, it speaks volumes that in 19 years he never list the clubhouse.  That is very rare.
    It's not his fault the club signed Josh Hamilton, Pujols and Vernon Wells.  He and the entire club suffered as a result.  It's not his fault that Dipoto savaged the farm system , leaving the Angels with little talent to draw on for years. 
    Of course, I hope the Angels select a great manager and I am confident they will.  They should be much improved next year, as many of their pitchers are set to return (Ramirez, Shoemaker, Bridwell, Middleton, Meyer).
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    instant karma got a reaction from ten ocho recon scout in Mike Scioscia --Contrarian Thoughts   
    That's the problem with some fans.  For the love of god, the man managed the team for 19 years.  Of course, he made a staffing mistake now and then.  Who wouldn't.  You are evaluating hundreds, if not thousands of players over that period of time in the minors and majors.   You, like most of the people on this site have unrealistic expectations.  You people want to focus on a specific mistake versus the scope of his work over close to a 20 year period.  God help us.
    How the heck do you know that Sosh was heavily involved in the Vernon Wells deal?   Tell us what inside sources you have that allow you state that so forcefully?
    Yes, I suspect that Napoli may not have a great opinion on Sosh.  That's one player in 19 years and I suspect that Sosh may regret his decision on Napoli.  I'll take his batting average on player evaluation over 19 years if all you can provide is Napoli (and Mathis and I'll grant a few other players).
    Yikes.
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    instant karma got a reaction from ten ocho recon scout in Mike Scioscia --Contrarian Thoughts   
    Dear Fellow Angels Supporters:
    Under the heading, be careful of what you ask for, as you may get it, Mike Scioscia is gone, just as many of you have been so anxious to see for years.  
    I recognize that I may receive hate mail, but I believe Mike was a really good manager.  Here are my reasons (not in any particular priority order):
     
    His players loved him, even when they had losing seasons.  In 19 years, he never lost the club house.  That is amazing.  Orlando Cabrera said he was the best manager he ever played for.  Torri Hunter,  Juston Upton,   Garrett Anderson, Mike Trout, Otani, etc, --they all loved playing for Mike.  Lots of manager lose the clubhouse when seasons go south.  That never happened with the Angels under Sosh.  To me, that says something about his ability to manage the clubhouse. You can't blame Mike for the past 3 seasons,  How can a team win when four fifths of their starting rotation is gone for the season.  I think it's incredible that the team was as good as it was last year and this year they projected a rotation of Richards, Otani, Skaggs, Ramirez, and Shoemaker.  Basically, except for Skaggs, the rest were out for the year and Skaggs had at least 3 stints on the DL.  You take 4 starters out of most teams, and I think they may have trouble competing.  Yes, I know Oakland managed it this year, but I suggest that is an outlier. I think it's amazing how Sosh developed quality bullpens despite significant injuries over the years.  Last year, Street basically missed the entire season.  This year, Kenyon Middleton  missed the season.   His players love the guy, his peers respect the guy as as very knowledgeable, and the Angels fans have, by and large, ripped him since I have been on this site.  I really don't get it.  When he had talent, the team won.  When his team was destroyed by injuries they often were still in the hunt late in the season.  And most importantly, to me, it speaks volumes that in 19 years he never list the clubhouse.  That is very rare.
    It's not his fault the club signed Josh Hamilton, Pujols and Vernon Wells.  He and the entire club suffered as a result.  It's not his fault that Dipoto savaged the farm system , leaving the Angels with little talent to draw on for years. 
    Of course, I hope the Angels select a great manager and I am confident they will.  They should be much improved next year, as many of their pitchers are set to return (Ramirez, Shoemaker, Bridwell, Middleton, Meyer).
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    Dear Fellow Angels Supporters:
    Under the heading, be careful of what you ask for, as you may get it, Mike Scioscia is gone, just as many of you have been so anxious to see for years.  
    I recognize that I may receive hate mail, but I believe Mike was a really good manager.  Here are my reasons (not in any particular priority order):
     
    His players loved him, even when they had losing seasons.  In 19 years, he never lost the club house.  That is amazing.  Orlando Cabrera said he was the best manager he ever played for.  Torri Hunter,  Juston Upton,   Garrett Anderson, Mike Trout, Otani, etc, --they all loved playing for Mike.  Lots of manager lose the clubhouse when seasons go south.  That never happened with the Angels under Sosh.  To me, that says something about his ability to manage the clubhouse. You can't blame Mike for the past 3 seasons,  How can a team win when four fifths of their starting rotation is gone for the season.  I think it's incredible that the team was as good as it was last year and this year they projected a rotation of Richards, Otani, Skaggs, Ramirez, and Shoemaker.  Basically, except for Skaggs, the rest were out for the year and Skaggs had at least 3 stints on the DL.  You take 4 starters out of most teams, and I think they may have trouble competing.  Yes, I know Oakland managed it this year, but I suggest that is an outlier. I think it's amazing how Sosh developed quality bullpens despite significant injuries over the years.  Last year, Street basically missed the entire season.  This year, Kenyon Middleton  missed the season.   His players love the guy, his peers respect the guy as as very knowledgeable, and the Angels fans have, by and large, ripped him since I have been on this site.  I really don't get it.  When he had talent, the team won.  When his team was destroyed by injuries they often were still in the hunt late in the season.  And most importantly, to me, it speaks volumes that in 19 years he never list the clubhouse.  That is very rare.
    It's not his fault the club signed Josh Hamilton, Pujols and Vernon Wells.  He and the entire club suffered as a result.  It's not his fault that Dipoto savaged the farm system , leaving the Angels with little talent to draw on for years. 
    Of course, I hope the Angels select a great manager and I am confident they will.  They should be much improved next year, as many of their pitchers are set to return (Ramirez, Shoemaker, Bridwell, Middleton, Meyer).
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    Dear Fellow Angels Supporters:
    Under the heading, be careful of what you ask for, as you may get it, Mike Scioscia is gone, just as many of you have been so anxious to see for years.  
    I recognize that I may receive hate mail, but I believe Mike was a really good manager.  Here are my reasons (not in any particular priority order):
     
    His players loved him, even when they had losing seasons.  In 19 years, he never lost the club house.  That is amazing.  Orlando Cabrera said he was the best manager he ever played for.  Torri Hunter,  Juston Upton,   Garrett Anderson, Mike Trout, Otani, etc, --they all loved playing for Mike.  Lots of manager lose the clubhouse when seasons go south.  That never happened with the Angels under Sosh.  To me, that says something about his ability to manage the clubhouse. You can't blame Mike for the past 3 seasons,  How can a team win when four fifths of their starting rotation is gone for the season.  I think it's incredible that the team was as good as it was last year and this year they projected a rotation of Richards, Otani, Skaggs, Ramirez, and Shoemaker.  Basically, except for Skaggs, the rest were out for the year and Skaggs had at least 3 stints on the DL.  You take 4 starters out of most teams, and I think they may have trouble competing.  Yes, I know Oakland managed it this year, but I suggest that is an outlier. I think it's amazing how Sosh developed quality bullpens despite significant injuries over the years.  Last year, Street basically missed the entire season.  This year, Kenyon Middleton  missed the season.   His players love the guy, his peers respect the guy as as very knowledgeable, and the Angels fans have, by and large, ripped him since I have been on this site.  I really don't get it.  When he had talent, the team won.  When his team was destroyed by injuries they often were still in the hunt late in the season.  And most importantly, to me, it speaks volumes that in 19 years he never list the clubhouse.  That is very rare.
    It's not his fault the club signed Josh Hamilton, Pujols and Vernon Wells.  He and the entire club suffered as a result.  It's not his fault that Dipoto savaged the farm system , leaving the Angels with little talent to draw on for years. 
    Of course, I hope the Angels select a great manager and I am confident they will.  They should be much improved next year, as many of their pitchers are set to return (Ramirez, Shoemaker, Bridwell, Middleton, Meyer).
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    Dear Fellow Angels Supporters:
    Under the heading, be careful of what you ask for, as you may get it, Mike Scioscia is gone, just as many of you have been so anxious to see for years.  
    I recognize that I may receive hate mail, but I believe Mike was a really good manager.  Here are my reasons (not in any particular priority order):
     
    His players loved him, even when they had losing seasons.  In 19 years, he never lost the club house.  That is amazing.  Orlando Cabrera said he was the best manager he ever played for.  Torri Hunter,  Juston Upton,   Garrett Anderson, Mike Trout, Otani, etc, --they all loved playing for Mike.  Lots of manager lose the clubhouse when seasons go south.  That never happened with the Angels under Sosh.  To me, that says something about his ability to manage the clubhouse. You can't blame Mike for the past 3 seasons,  How can a team win when four fifths of their starting rotation is gone for the season.  I think it's incredible that the team was as good as it was last year and this year they projected a rotation of Richards, Otani, Skaggs, Ramirez, and Shoemaker.  Basically, except for Skaggs, the rest were out for the year and Skaggs had at least 3 stints on the DL.  You take 4 starters out of most teams, and I think they may have trouble competing.  Yes, I know Oakland managed it this year, but I suggest that is an outlier. I think it's amazing how Sosh developed quality bullpens despite significant injuries over the years.  Last year, Street basically missed the entire season.  This year, Kenyon Middleton  missed the season.   His players love the guy, his peers respect the guy as as very knowledgeable, and the Angels fans have, by and large, ripped him since I have been on this site.  I really don't get it.  When he had talent, the team won.  When his team was destroyed by injuries they often were still in the hunt late in the season.  And most importantly, to me, it speaks volumes that in 19 years he never list the clubhouse.  That is very rare.
    It's not his fault the club signed Josh Hamilton, Pujols and Vernon Wells.  He and the entire club suffered as a result.  It's not his fault that Dipoto savaged the farm system , leaving the Angels with little talent to draw on for years. 
    Of course, I hope the Angels select a great manager and I am confident they will.  They should be much improved next year, as many of their pitchers are set to return (Ramirez, Shoemaker, Bridwell, Middleton, Meyer).
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