We got a mac desktop in the living room but it's such a pain in the ass to use. Something as simple as importing photos is a 500 step process because they try to force everything through iWhatever and trying to print out a set of photos is even worse. With Windows all you have to do is select, hit print, and choose your layout. What part of the Apple process is supposed to be easier and more intuitive? I don't get the hate for Windows 8 either. That tile layout is stupid and ridiculous but if you just take 5 minutes to install Classic Shell you get your old school start button back and it looks/feels just like Windows 7 with a few minor navigation changes.