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Might get him for five years and move him to second when Paris or others are ready.  Five years $125M or six $138?  Fletch can super sub once Semien moves to second.

You do that . . . 
and I'll tell you what a vagina feels like. 

The most similar team to 2002 in energy was the 2019 Nationals.
I hope we get some of this in 2022.

There's no way they get three guys over $5M annually for the Pen. That's not the way they build successful pens in Anaheim.
 

Jeremiah Jackson? Seriously? He’s played 45 games at low A Ball.. he’s probably three years away minimum. Probably ETA 2024. Full time in 25 or 26. 
 
We had the worst offense in baseball in the second half. They will be better with Trout Rendon and Upton being healthy but they need to add a MINF bat. 
 
Out pitching was middle of the road. They need to add an ace. And some depth pieces.

They’ll 100% be non tendered. You gonna pay a reliever with a 6 ERA nearly 2 M when you can pay Herget 590k? What about a lefty bench guy when they’ve got Thaiss who is almost out of options? Also, Jeff’s payroll number is 109.95. I had 8-10M call it $9. That’s why I say they’re at 123-125 before they sign anyone. Leaving a bit over $55-57 to get where they were last season.
I don’t add in extra 0-3 league salaries as then you’d have to take them away whenever they sign a free agent. It’s too easy to double count.
But to compete, they need to spend more than that or get really really creative.
Both infield and outfield defense was terrible so I don’t see how they can go with internal options at short. Rendon should solve that issue at 3rd. Adell and Marsh in the OF regularly should greatly improve the defense there as well as with Trout, of course, in left or Center.
Offensively, a guy who can steal bags would be nice. Fletcher doesn’t steal enough.

 

Can I just remind everyone of the near two decades of issues at 3B?
Glaus' last good year was 2003. He played full seasons though from 1999-2003. Glaus had 22.6 WAR in 7 seasons with the Angels. Since then.
In 2004, Figgins played the most 3B. Figgins has 22.4 WAR with the Angels in parts of 8 seasons.
in 2005 it was Dallas McPherson for 60 games. 1.0 Career WAR with the Angels over parts of three seasons.
In 2006, Maicer Izturis played 87 games at 3rd. Maicer had 12.5 WAR in his time with the Angels, mostly as a utility guy.
In 2007-2009 Figgins played the most there. Only one year was a full-time year at 154 games.
In 2010 Brandon Wood played the most games there. Negative -3.1 WAR in parts of five seasons.
In 2011-2013 Alberto Callaspo played the most games at 3rd. 7.6 WAR in parts of 4 seasons for the Angels.
In 2014-2015 David Freese was at the hot corner. Freeze had 4.5 WAR in two years with the Angels.
In 2016-2017 it was Yunel Escobar. 1.6 WAR in parts of two seasons.
In 2018 it was Luis Valbuena. (RIP) Negative -1.0 WAR in parts of two seasons.
And in 2019 it was David Fletcher. 9.5 WAR in four years. Mostly at 2nd and SS though.
TOTAL post Glaus and pre-Rendon is 55 WAR in 16 seasons, or 3.4 WAR on average. This is just the primary starter, there are too many names who've played here part time at third. If you take 58% of Figgins (540 of 936 games, you get 12.9 WAR) of 38% of Izturis (290 of 759 games -- 4.75 WAR), and 27% of Fletcher (2.56 WAR) though, you drop to 30.8 WAR. 
1.9 WAR.
Rendon was worth 2.2 WAR in 52 games of his one healthy season. That would've been around 6 WAR.
Yes he struggled in 2021, with injuries, and ended up right a 0.00 WAR in his 5.8 Games.
I am very happy knowing Anthony Rendon is an Angel for 5 more seasons.
 

Can I just remind everyone of the near two decades of issues at 3B?
Glaus' last good year was 2003. He played full seasons though from 1999-2003. Glaus had 22.6 WAR in 7 seasons with the Angels. Since then.
In 2004, Figgins played the most 3B. Figgins has 22.4 WAR with the Angels in parts of 8 seasons.
in 2005 it was Dallas McPherson for 60 games. 1.0 Career WAR with the Angels over parts of three seasons.
In 2006, Maicer Izturis played 87 games at 3rd. Maicer had 12.5 WAR in his time with the Angels, mostly as a utility guy.
In 2007-2009 Figgins played the most there. Only one year was a full-time year at 154 games.
In 2010 Brandon Wood played the most games there. Negative -3.1 WAR in parts of five seasons.
In 2011-2013 Alberto Callaspo played the most games at 3rd. 7.6 WAR in parts of 4 seasons for the Angels.
In 2014-2015 David Freese was at the hot corner. Freeze had 4.5 WAR in two years with the Angels.
In 2016-2017 it was Yunel Escobar. 1.6 WAR in parts of two seasons.
In 2018 it was Luis Valbuena. (RIP) Negative -1.0 WAR in parts of two seasons.
And in 2019 it was David Fletcher. 9.5 WAR in four years. Mostly at 2nd and SS though.
TOTAL post Glaus and pre-Rendon is 55 WAR in 16 seasons, or 3.4 WAR on average. This is just the primary starter, there are too many names who've played here part time at third. If you take 58% of Figgins (540 of 936 games, you get 12.9 WAR) of 38% of Izturis (290 of 759 games -- 4.75 WAR), and 27% of Fletcher (2.56 WAR) though, you drop to 30.8 WAR. 
1.9 WAR.
Rendon was worth 2.2 WAR in 52 games of his one healthy season. That would've been around 6 WAR.
Yes he struggled in 2021, with injuries, and ended up right a 0.00 WAR in his 5.8 Games.
I am very happy knowing Anthony Rendon is an Angel for 5 more seasons.
 

Adell played.. he’s not proven and neither is Marsh.
They will not go into a season relying on injured players to come back and with 4 questionable spots in the lineup. RF/LF/2B/SS

Jeremiah Jackson? Seriously? He’s played 45 games at low A Ball.. he’s probably three years away minimum. Probably ETA 2024. Full time in 25 or 26. 
 
We had the worst offense in baseball in the second half. They will be better with Trout Rendon and Upton being healthy but they need to add a MINF bat. 
 
Out pitching was middle of the road. They need to add an ace. And some depth pieces.

Then you didn’t watch Suarez this year. 

OK, so maybe, and it could just be a sophomore slump, but they can't ignore that.
And good anecdote but it was in 2001...Eckstein started at SS the vast majority of the 2001 season. Kennedy was acquired prior to 2001 as well, and started the vast majority at 2nd. Benji Gil was the primary backup at both spots and at 1st actually in 2001, because Speizio would go across the Diamond for Glaus occasionally. Anyway...
I'm all for giving Davis a shot, but I still think they will get a solid MINF on a 1 year deal. And I still think they're gonna be in on Semien and Story. And others.
There will certainly be upheaval on the SS market in MLB this year. 
 

Agreed. I just meant as a full time starter. His season last year was way down. They're definitely looking at adding. Had he performed to 2019 and 2020 level in 2021, this would be less of a concern. But they're not going into next year with two positions with no offense.

Is he a lock? I mean he was the second worst full time hitter in baseball last year. And the second to worst hitter with more than 100 PA on the Angels by this stat.
To put this in perspective...
Rengifo 51 OPS+ 
Fletcher 71 OPS+ 
Lagares 72 OPS+ 
Suzuki 74 OPS+
Rojas 82 OPS+
Iglesias 82 OPS+
Gosselin 85 OPS+
Marsh 84 OPS+
Mayfield 87 OPS+
Adell 90 OPS+
Upton 90 OPS+
Pujols 67 OPS+ with us 101 OPS+ with Dodgers for a 91 OPS+
Rendon 94 OPS+
Stassi 104 OPS+
Ward 108 OPS+
Walsh 128 OPS+
Ohtani 158 OPS+
Trout 195 OPS+
 
 
 
 

Thats a lot of data to take in.
The important part to take from it is that the Mariners were hot as hell down the stretch, and we ruined their dream on the last day of the season.

Is he a lock? I mean he was the second worst full time hitter in baseball last year. And the second to worst hitter with more than 100 PA on the Angels by this stat.
To put this in perspective...
Rengifo 51 OPS+ 
Fletcher 71 OPS+ 
Lagares 72 OPS+ 
Suzuki 74 OPS+
Rojas 82 OPS+
Iglesias 82 OPS+
Gosselin 85 OPS+
Marsh 84 OPS+
Mayfield 87 OPS+
Adell 90 OPS+
Upton 90 OPS+
Pujols 67 OPS+ with us 101 OPS+ with Dodgers for a 91 OPS+
Rendon 94 OPS+
Stassi 104 OPS+
Ward 108 OPS+
Walsh 128 OPS+
Ohtani 158 OPS+
Trout 195 OPS+
 
 
 
 

I'm not saying he should be a lock, I'm just saying he is a lock to be on the roster at the very least.
Maddon loves him, especially because of his defense.
Despite being a horrendous hitter, he'd still be a better option than Mayfield or Rengifo as a utility infielder. Also, he has a guaranteed contract, so he isn't going anywhere.

was added to the 40 man today. 

People are mad the Braves won with a 88 win record in the NL East, but it's interesting to note they were 44 and 45 at All Star Break, Angels were 45-44.
They went 8-9 the rest of July to be two games under .500 at 52-54.
Angels went 7-8 to finish July at 52-52. 
Braves bought at deadline. Angels mostly stood pat, and even sold a bit.
Braves went 36-20, including 18-8 in August and 16-10 in September.
Angels went 25-33 down the stretch. Including a terrible 9-17 September.
I'm not saying that they should've bought with Trout and Rendon on the shelf, not to mention Sandoval, Canning, Upton, etc. But they aren't as far away as some think.
 
 
 
 

Braves had third best record in NL in last two months at 36-20.
Giants were 57-32 at the break, 65-39 at end of month, and went 42-16 in last two months.
Dodgers were 56-32 at the break, 63-43 at end of month, and finished 43-13 in last two months.

Astros were at 55-36 at the break, 11-5 rest of July, but then went 28-25 down the stretch.
Red Sox were also 55-36 at the break, 8-7 rest of July but only went 29-27 down the stretch.
Mariners went 48-43 at the break, and 8-6 rest of July. At 56-49 they then went 34-23.
Yankees were 46-43 at the break, 9-5 rest of July. Then went 37-22 down the stretch.
Rays were 53-37 at the break,  10-5 rest of July. Then went 37-20 down the stretch. 

People are mad the Braves won with a 88 win record in the NL East, but it's interesting to note they were 44 and 45 at All Star Break, Angels were 45-44.
They went 8-9 the rest of July to be two games under .500 at 52-54.
Angels went 7-8 to finish July at 52-52. 
Braves bought at deadline. Angels mostly stood pat, and even sold a bit.
Braves went 36-20, including 18-8 in August and 16-10 in September.
Angels went 25-33 down the stretch. Including a terrible 9-17 September.
I'm not saying that they should've bought with Trout and Rendon on the shelf, not to mention Sandoval, Canning, Upton, etc. But they aren't as far away as some think.
 
 
 
 

There's no way they get three guys over $5M annually for the Pen. That's not the way they build successful pens in Anaheim.
 

Yeah, Mayers is not going to be non-tendered. He didn't have as good of a year as his stretch in 2020 was, but he was still solid.
They have a lot of young guys, but you can't rely on them. But Bullpen is unreliable.
I'd resign Iglesias to 4/60.
9/14/15/16 with a 3M buyout of a 5th year option / or a 17M team option and a 3M signing bonus.
I'd resign Cishek to 2 years, 3M contract. 1.25 M in 2022, 1.75 M in 2023. I'd sign Watson to the same deal if he'd take it.
I'd sign Richards/ Lorenzen to one year flyers or minors deals. Or I'd sign Yusmiero Petit to 2 year deal at 4M. Or Blake Parker. 
I'd end up with a BP of Iglesias, Mayers, Watson, Cishek, Petit/Parker, with Warren, Quijada, and Herget rounding out the pen. Ortega, Richards or Lorenzen can have final spot.
It's not the best BP, but it will cost you around $9+$1.75+$1.75+$2M+2M = $16M for Pen.

and that's where they'll fail.  They'll get a couple of good starters and ignore things that are as important if not more so.  Like having a legit backup for a guy that finished 125th out of 132 in value as an everyday player.  Or rolling into the season with your primary SS being a guy who's had -0.9 WAR the last couple years with his only replacement being a minor leaguer who progressed 3 minor league levels this year.  Or ignoring the fact that half of the value of your entire bullpen came from one guy that.  
The only reason this team didn't lose 100 games last year is because of some decent starter depth and a couple young guys that did well out of the pen.  
I literally can repeat myself enough.  They had the worst offense/defense in all of baseball in the second half of last year.  2.5 WAR for half a year.  And Ohtani and Stassi weren't that bad.  You're never going to win when you lose two of your best players but the lack of position player depth is absolutely scary right now.  
who's gonna play 2b if Fletcher does what he did last year?  
who's gonna play SS.  Just in general. 
what if Marsh and Adell struggle? do you put Upton out there and his -0.1 WAR for the last three years?  
what if Rendon has a setback?
what do they do with Walsh and his 48 wRC+ vs. lefties?
Stassi had an 84 wRC+ in the second half last year.  Not that having a light hitting C is that big of a deal but it matters when you have 4+ other positions of uncertainty.  
Don't ignore the lineup.  In any given season, about 1/4th to 1/3rd of a team's at bats will be from guys who aren't your primary starters.   Roster major league players.  Or guys that have the potential to be.  Don't waiver wire the lineup any more than you would your rotation.  

Guys I would think the Angels would be interested in.