Kevin

I didn’t really think this should be age restricted but whatever. Gives a timeline from Saturday.

8 minutes ago, Taylor said:

We're stopped in Utah right now and got DQ for dinner (don't hate). My wife tried the fry sauce. She was not impressed.

I don’t get fry sauce either. But then again, I’m not from here so I escaped the fry sauce indoctrination. To each their own.

15 minutes ago, St1ck said:

All religious beliefs should be scrutinized.

Oh I know. 

I live in Utah.

Depending on the type of rhetoric, let’s remember you can be critical of Israel and not be anti-Semitic, especially being called a Nazi. Same with Islam and religion in general.

No one should be above reproach.

12 minutes ago, Blarg said:

@Redondo are you on drugs? Your headline and link are two completely different stories and you even pulled an excerpt. Also, an old pair of smelly shoes is not a political story.

I think he just just needs to be reprogrammed. He had a circuit short when it came to his article topics.

13 hours ago, Redondo said:

Miss the cheap gas, low interest rates and lower prices for everything 

The economy is a major part of what is driving the support forTrump 

Dems have ruined it along with other issues

Meh. Gas was cheap before Trump came to office but he likes to take credit for it. Average cost of gas starting in 2015 when the oil market took a hit

2015: $2.43

2016: $2.14

2017: $2.41

2018: $2.74

2019:$2.60

2020:$2.17

Obviously covid impacted demand and sent prices plummeting. And while that was great for many Americans, let’s not forget how many in the oil industry lost their jobs and how many companies went out of business. I can name one AW poster that lost his job but I prefer not to drag  him into this shit does show.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-north-america-oil-bankruptcy/wave-of-north-american-oil-and-gas-bankruptcies-to-continue-at-40-bbl-crude-report-idUSKBN24A2U1

As for oil production currently, you can’t say we aren’t producing. 2022 was the second best year on record and looks like we’re about to pass that sometime this year or next.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRFPUS2&f=W

As for interest rates, those should have started being raised back in 2014 or 2015 with the economy doing well. Powell tried raising them in 2018 but a certain someone threw a fit because the stock market freaked out and told him to stop and even suggested rates go negative which is asinine in a great economy. Powell for some reason listened even though the Fed is independent. With the economy humming along, rates should have started being raised in a healthy manner to stop the economy from overheating. But they were kept in an artificially low state.  And now you have one of the reasons why we are in the mess we are today with interest rates not being at the proper level for so long. Although I will say my savings accounts have been loving the interest rates so at least with that, no complaints.

16 minutes ago, St1ck said:

With a clever name like that they'll never be able to find it. 

Judge issues order to prevent Trump from hiding money after he started "Trump Organization II"
https://news.yahoo.com/judge-issues-order-prevent-trump-165117507.html

Trump created "Trump Organization II" on same day the lawsuit was filed, raising concerns he may move his funds

3 minutes ago, Redondo said:

Still relevant today as they are still trying to rid of him

 

Nah you just craiged yourself.

But feel free to donate to his defense fund.

On 8/4/2023 at 7:23 AM, Redondo said:

You’re getting old Redondo.

Or Branco is hard up for material and hoping you won’t recognize he’s regurgitating cartoons.

13 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

There’s a difference between jokes and statements like “men can be pregnant” and “white supremacy is the greatest threat to this country.”

Agreed. But I think we both know there are a lot of people that talk about the Clintons murdering people, Michelle Obama being a man or that the 2020 election was fraudulent and repeat it over and over again believe it to be true. Some might make jokes out of it while others are die hard believers in it.

Rally posted a joke about Matt Gaetz and underage girls. A joke as you implied is different but you assumed the person really believes it. Maybe they do or maybe they don’t but you made the comment that they keep saying it as if it is true. Maybe it’s just a joke that’s been around for a few years.

Anyways let’s get back on topic.

Just now, Lhalo said:

Do tell.

The right doesn't repeat shit over and over? While its entertaining to talk about suicides with the Clintons or Big Mike, in the end, its just repeated talk over and over again. 

Just now, RallyMo said:

 

If it makes you feel better, there is a lot of irony in Larry's post. 

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

Do it for $50,000.

https://www.mlb.com/brackets/postseason?affiliateId=psbc-headline-mlb-2023

9 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Ok I mean that's fine. I respect that.

I want to forget this season like the black midget I drunkenly fucked in an Arby's bathroom. 

No argument about the season itself. Just not having baseball for the next six months always sucks. No matter how comical and pathetic the franchise is, it’s good to have it around with the team playing (or whatever is left of the team by June).

As dreadful as this season has been, I’ll miss it because in the end, it’s baseball.

Oil is currently up $3 as of today so expect prices to climb even more. The good news is oil production is looking to exceed 2019 levels soon. So what's with the prices? Is it the number of active rigs as the article states? Shale? Oil is being produced so that isn't the issue despite the political talk these days. Does it really just come down to supply and demand? With summer ending, this is when you usually see a fall in prices but no luck so far. 

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/OPEC-Cuts-Offset-By-Booming-US-Oil-Production.html

54 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

He has lost a comma

But we all become richer when he "tweets" about it later. Buck up!

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

Canada has a really loud Ukrainian population that showed up after ww2.  I’ll let you take some guesses at who those people were and why they have Nazi monuments up around Canada and why this old man is there at all.  
 

we’ll just say.  They really needed to not be around once the Soviets drove the Nazis back west.  

If I remember correctly from a documentary I watched a while back, there were some Russians and Ukrainians that saw the Nazis as liberators from Stalin when operation Barbarossa commenced and welcomed them with open arms. So I’m not surprised by this. Just had no idea there were that many in Canada.

20 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Never argued that they were angels! But as you said, nobodies hands are clean.  Certainly not theirs.  But the Nazis were on a substantially different plane.  Imo.  
 

also, this seems like some “victims of communism” type stuff which I’m going to be completely honest with you.  Is an organization that I regard as deeply dishonest and not worth taking seriously.  
 

If we’re going to expand out all the crimes committed during world war 2 are the Dresden firebombings fair game? The Tokyo fire bombings? I mean let’s at least call spades spades. 

Oh I agree. I was just more focused on Germany and Russia due to Canada clapping for a Nazi tweet Geoff posted.

I’ll alter my original point. Really shitty terrible bad people fighting less shitty questionable people.

There that aught to do it.

38 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I get where Kevin is coming from. But yeah I mean when we talk about war in the context of WWII, it can't really be a "both sides" thing. Without Stalin and Russia, do the allies win the war? I think it's a question worth considering.

And yes, Stalin was also a piece of shit.

Possibly but that really depends what Russia would be doing. If they remained neutraL, I think the Allies could still defeat Germany but it would take a lot longer and the death toll would be a lot worse. The industrial capability of the U.S. could have been the trump card. During Germanys invasion of Russia, they were still using horses in part to help move supplies. But “what if” history is tough because the assumption is events would turn out to be the opposite of what actually happened. But there’s no knowing.

20 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Ok you’re making it about these two individuals.  As I said, im not going to debate you about Stalin.  But I will strongly disagree that the Soviet Union was the same kind of evil that Nazi Germany was.  The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were at war.  Not just Stalin and Hitler. 

Germany takes the cake. We both agree on that. But the Soviets were no angels either. Since we’re talking World War II, I’m just sticking with that specific topic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes

I just think Russia was less shitty than Germany but still shitty nonetheless during the 30’s and 40’s.  

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

Ok, I think I understand your view a bit more.  I don’t think we agree entirely but it’s fine.  Close enough.  
 

I will say though, people often talk about the Soviets expansionist ambitions.  I think historical fact counters this argument almost entirely after Lenin’s death.  Global revolution was Lenin’s dream - and the dream of many western communists  (this is an interesting and vast topic and also really not the same as Nazi Hegemonic ambitions but we can leave that where it is) - but it mostly died with Lenin.  Stalin turned inward.  He had no interest in it and for the rest of its existence the Soviet Union didn’t really.  We can look at conflicts all over the globe during the cold war and while the Soviets would support communist movements in terms of aid (military and various other economic means) they very rarely committed militarily. A great example is in Korea where they genuinely could have gone in but in the end refused.  The truth of it is that the USSR global hegemony thing was mostly unfounded and false.  It’s certainly true that this was misunderstood and perceived as a real threat to the west during the Cold War years.  But today we have the Soviet archives and we know it was never something they were serious about pursuing. 

My main point, when it came to Stalin vs Hitler, it was pretty much bad fighting bad. Murderous dictator fighting murderous dictator. Stalin killed millions of his own people along with who knows how many outside his country and we all know what Hitler did.

I just used Poland as an example.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

6 minutes ago, Spirit said:

 

They were cheering a Nazi

 

I saw. Which is why I said the idiots didn’t do their research because if they had, they would have known to cancel their embarrassing event.

3 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

In my opinion this is a substantially incorrect understanding of the history.  The USSR did seek to avoid war with the Nazis and proposed treaties to that end but surely you understand that the communists and fascists were ideologically mortal enemies.  The Soviets certainly did understand this. In the years prior to WW2 they fought each other in the Spanish civil war.  Anyways I think that implication that the Soviets were an ethical equal of Nazi Germany is a really rough one.  
 

also, you should check out Winston Churchill and Bengal famine.  Not substantially different from what Stalin is often held totally responsible for. 
 

to be clear, I’m not going to defend Josef Stalin, who I think was a bad guy in history.  But I think that it goes a bit far to equate the Nazis and the red army.  

Russia knew they were going to end up in a war with Germany because Hitler talked about it in Mein Kamph. But they did agree to carve up Poland. And Stalin did attempt to join up with the Axis powers but Hitler ignored him. I think that’s what Stalin was trying to do to prevent a war with Germany.
 

Russia then goes after Finland who then teamed up with Germany in some aspects. Europe was pretty much a shit show.

I know the communists and fascists were mortal enemies (which is why it’s funny when some on the right call others communists and fascists. They obviously don’t know those two don’t mesh). Which is why they both ended up in war with one another eventually.

But both had aspirations for bringing Europe and other parts of the world under their sphere of influence through whatever means necessary. Even if that meant for awhile they were cordial with one another, knowing it wouldn’t last. That’s why I don’t think they were different from one another in that sense. Politically they might have been different but that’s about it in my opinion.

No argument from me on Britain as well as the U.S. No country has clean hands.