Kevin

14 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

It’s a sacrifice he’s willing to make praise be.

Wait, what about the general election?

3 hours ago, mmc said:

 

He should’ve just stuck to doing strikes on their tiny ass boats when they approached and attempted to attack ships. But they just can’t help themselves.
 

1 minute ago, Lhalo said:

I understand they’ve criticized Presidents in the past but 40% is fucking ridiculous. 

We are in agreement. Some would argue you can still be working while you’re on vacation. But I guarantee it’s not happening all the time or close to it when it comes to actual working vacations. 

16 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Making up Republicans not noting Trumps Mar Lago trips is partisan blinders, Kevin. Try not to fall down that crevice between reality and zealous defense of your party.

I called them ALL hypocrites. ALL of them. That’s not partisan. They are all criticizing each other for how often they are not working. Try not to fall down any crevice yourself. You might get stuck.

22 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

I don't think Obama took 40% of his time in office on vacation.

I’m not saying he did. But they went after him a lot when he took a vacation or if they felt the location was too extravagant (or the timing wasn’t good). Then the democrats did the same with Trump. And the cycle will continue to repeat itself, if it’s a two week vacation or 40% of their term. It gets to the point where it’s just noise.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/republican-gop-chairman-reince-priebus-condemns-obamas-vacation/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/08/08/obama-marthas-vineyard-clinton-bush-fdr-vacation/2632979/

https://theweek.com/articles/491621/obama-vacationing-much

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/04/10/politics/donald-trump-obama-travel-costs/index.html

And Republicans got after Obama for it is well and then had amnesia with Trump doing it. It’s just a carousel of hypocrisy with them all. The way I see it, bad things might not happen if they are distracted with a round of 18. Go for it.

Trump said he had nothing more to say back in December. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/10/trump-no-longer-plans-to-testify-in-civil-fraud-trial-on-monday.html

“I have already testified to everything & have nothing more to say other than this is a complete & total election interference (Biden campaign!) witch hunt that will do nothing but keep businesses out of New York,” Trump, who is running for president again in the 2024 elections, wrote in the social media post.

Personally I was interested in hearing more about magnets arch nemesis, water. So I'm a bit bummed. 

On 1/7/2024 at 11:03 AM, Lhalo said:

 

Someone went rouge or they are just backtracking.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4397448-penn-statue-remain-philadelphia-park/

13 minutes ago, Taylor said:

I thought it was all the meth dealers.

14 minutes ago, Lhalo said:

 

From what I understand, Penn had really good relationships with the Natives and wanted to create a colony that peace could exist between colonists and Natives. They could have just added a Native statue along with Penn if they wanted to have inclusion and teach history at the same time. 
 

Failure.

Maybe Trump was involved since he has such a stellar record with this type of situation.
 

Having said that, I think he was too focused on trying to bang Ivanka to sexually assault any other young girl.
 

Just now, Lhalo said:

You libs love to put words in other people's mouths and put weird shit in your own.

I'm not a lib. I'm just not a cuck for Trump. 

"Why would Trump steal from the charity money he raised that was intended for veterans? He's a billionaire!"

Larry

Regardless of how wealthy Trump is, he would steal the money out of your couch cushions if he could. He sells pieces of a cut up suit for thousands of dollars and wouldn't turn his nose up at the chance to make at least $8 million dollars if he could. 

He didn't divest from his business and put them into a blind trust.  But this is who he is and always has been. He wasn't an outsider like so many claim. He was someone that sees the bullshit in D.C. and wants to be a part of it. Simple enough. 

Per the article, they only had access to a couple years worth of information because that's all they could get their hands on once Republicans took over the House and ended the investigation. From what I understand at least.

But I think you missed the point. He didn't give up his business interests with the blind trust. Taking in money from foreign countries he has accused others of being beholden to while President. 

3 minutes ago, Tank said:

channel 5 news this morning mentioned Leonardo di Caprio was mentioned in the released documents. 

 

Aside from the sex, was Epstein doing any other kind of business with all of these influential people that they would've visited his island for other reasons? I had a discussion with someone who was suggesting that there were other reasons to be on the island and not everyone should be lumped in together/guilt by association thing. 

I could be wrong (I'm going on hearsay) but the most recent report doesn't provide a lot of details, just names for the most part. And some of those names we already had knowledge of like Prince Andrew, Clinton, etc. 

Some of this could be wealthy people mingling with wealthy people while others were involved in the actual crimes. Having said said that, regardless of what people did or didn't engage in, who had knowledge of what is hard to say. They might be completely innocent of anything but their name is now forever synonymous with Epstein. 

What will be interesting to see is when more documents are released in the coming weeks. This isn't everything. 

From this

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/donald-trump-business-conflicts-interest-233520

To this

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-foreign-payments-emoluments-clause-house-democrats/

7 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Texas cares. They put up walls and the feds tear them down from a ruling a judge makes outside of the state. They put a bouy fence along the Rio Grande and a judge from out of their state rules it must be removed. States that try to enforce the immigration laws are told they can't enforce the laws. It's fucked up but it isn't a both sides argument. 

I’ll say they care a little more based off your examples. I’ll concede that much.

But I still stand by if they can ship them to other parts of the U.S. they can ship them back to Mexico. 

This whole thing shows how both sides are the same when it comes to illegal immigrants. They don’t really care that they are here in the U.S. Just as long as they aren’t in their state. Democrats complaining they can’t handle the influx of people but oblivious how hypocritical that comes across. Republicans could put these people back on a bus or plane to Mexico but instead ship them to a blue city to prove their point but seem to forget there are still illegal immigrants in the country regardless of where they ship them to.

Oh and cheap labor and political narratives help as well.

8 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

You need to go to Floplag for this.  He has personally encountered incidence of voter fraud but has failed to report it.  Very sad imo. 

I didn’t believe you when you said Trump was the most betrayed man in history but now that this evidence isn’t being used to help Trump and vindicate his claims when it could easily be done, I’ve come around to your side. Thank you sir.

6 minutes ago, mmc said:

https://hereistheevidence.com/

Have you tried submitting this evidence yourself in court?

Well here’s hoping after more than three years, Trump can provide the evidence of mass voter fraud.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4385239-voter-data-expert-trump-campaign-2020-election-not-stolen/

I see it as providing context that neither side ever wants to give. 

I don’t have a dog in this fight. My guess is the truth always lies somewhere in the middle. 
 

I assume this article is accurate but have no idea.

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33DT3V4

9 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

It’s pretty incredible how successful the “lost cause” mythology has been.  To a great degree a great many elements of it are just mainstream talking points. 

The south lost on the battlefield but they pretty much won the narrative history with pen and paper in the years and decades that followed. And that reverberates even today.

16 minutes ago, Jason said:

You are correct. Trump’s base will never change their view of him as he is literally their Messiah. There are many other voters who really don’t have a “side” or usually don’t vote that could view him as a victim. Those are the people that are going to get him re-elected if they see this as playing dirty or trying to rig an election. I know you guys are good with what is happening here but there are many that will not be. I guess we’ll find out in about 11 months from now. 

If people are currently undecided but feel that Trump is having the 2024 election rigged against him and vote for him based on that, I would ask them how they feel about fake elector schemes, phone calls to election officials about finding votes, telling other officials not to certify the election “tonight”, telling them they’ll get them lawyers to help them out, etc. If that doesn’t bother them, then so be it. But again, it would just show double standard. 
 

One side is trying to use one of the amendments of the constitution to disqualify Trump, whether the interpretation is correct or not, while his side is having his lawyers plead guilty and admit the shenanigans they were up to.

I think we both can agree though, 2024 is going to make 2015/2016 look tame in comparison. Should be interesting.