Kevin

6 minutes ago, mypillow.com said:

Whose funeral did I send flowers to, then?

Anthony Rendon's Angels career. 

Still alive and well my fellow dumbasses.

1 minute ago, Jason said:

The folks that run our state are bigger idiots than the ones that run yours. Advantage goes to Kevin

We have our share of problems such as a one party state (no gridlock), certain taxes and of course when the Mormon church has hands in politics but for the most part it is a decently run state.

Love California but don't forsee myself ever moving back. 

2 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

Oil plunged today, down 13%.

So does this mean gas prices will also drop by a significant amount, and soon?

LOL. 

Gas in my area has been dropping as price of oil has been dropping. 

So here's hoping. 

28 minutes ago, cals said:

Shut down travel for something that’s as dangerous as a cold?  That’s preposterous.

I agree. The cognitive dissonance is not lost on me.

Sorry cals I'm with Larry on this one. I'm not critical of Fauci like some in here are. Having said that, you can shut down travel from South Africa while at the same time gather data on it. Both can be accomplished. Since this is the path they are taking, better make a decision quick. 

Biden shut down travel from India back in April. No reason why he can't make the right move again.

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

As a Libertarian, I agree that they have spent far too much on nation building, and need to get out of that business.

Afghanistan lasted probably at least 15 years too long.   That one is of course on both parties.   Bush’s Mission Accomplished in 2003 was of course B.S.

I do believe that Trump did want to do the Afghan withdrawal the right way, all American civilians and then the military leaving WITH the military equipment and not just leaving it in the Taliban’s hands.

The Republican Party has its’ share of people who need to go, like the neutered Mitch McConnell.

It is much more though the party of common sense, than the now leftist Democratic Party.  There is a reason the #walkaway movement is gaining momentum.

Afghanistan was already failing no matter who was in office (the Taliban had been taking over territory for awhile) . The Afghan army wasn't being paid and they weren't going to fight for a corrupt Afghan government. They abandoned much of what we gave them and we destroyed vital components of what we left that made equipment operable. 

People were given two deadlines (one by Trump and one by Biden) so it was no mystery when we were leaving. The embassy even told people to get out in the weeks before. Hanging out in Afghanistan till the last second wasn't a good idea. 

The collapse we saw was going to happen regardless because the Afghan government wasn't taken seriously.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/national-security/568154-trumps-deal-with-the-taliban-set-the-stage-for-the-afghan-collapse%3famp

And when you have hundreds of thousands of people trying to get out and not enough people to organize an orderly withdraw, chaos ensues. Biden was the guy in charge so I'm okay with him getting most of the blame but I understand history and events are more complicated than what snippets we see. 

In the end I'm glad Trump started the process of withdrawal and Biden finished it. 

23 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Uhh Biden, you’ve had almost a year to address this issue.

Hello, McBiden?   Drop that ice cream cone and get to work.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/11/24/california-docks-see-significant-progress-with-supply-chain-backlog-port-chief-says.html

"Since the announcement of the new fees, which have yet to be imposed, both ports have seen lingering cargo containers reduced by 33%. Cordero says there are still approximately 61 cargo ships off the California coast waiting to unload. That compares to a record 111 ships just two weeks ago, according to data from the Marine Exchange."

Sixth person dies. Eight year old kid. Twelve year old brother was also hit. 

https://www.cbs58.com/news/8-year-old-boy-dies-from-injuries-in-waukesha-holiday-parade-tragedy

Gas station I use was at about $3.89 a gallon at the end of August and has been going down super slow over the past couple months. It is around $3.66 now and we'll see if it drops some more in the coming months due to demand dropping (the usual seasonal changes). Biden releasing for the oil reserves won't do much. I'm not an expert of on this but I just keep an eye on the price per barrel and a few weeks ago it was around $84 a barrel. Currently sitting around $78 a barrel. 

My parents are in town and my mom showed me the break down of what you're paying for gas in California. Holy hell you guys are getting screwed. I love California (at the least the one I grew up in) but just glad I have moved on.

25 minutes ago, cals said:

Speaking of sticks, where is @St1ck?

Hasn't logged in since November 1st. Hopefully he's okay. 

47 minutes ago, Jason said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/attorney-for-ahmaud-aubrey-suspect-kevin-gough-compares-case-to-public-lynching
This deserves a thread. If you ask me, Arbery was the one who had a right to self defense against three dudes chasing him. He tried to defend himself and they shot him. 

This comes at an interesting time with the Rittenhouse case and the topic of self defense. If these guys are found not guilty, shit might be worse that 2020.

18 minutes ago, Jason said:

I can’t find anything about the suspect but the fact they have him in custody and aren’t saying anything is a little odd 

The event is a little twelve hours old and of course it happened late in the day so you’re dealing with an overnight situation. If you didn’t have information by the beginning of this afternoon, I’d agree it’s odd but I think it’s pretty standard not to have a lot of information released right about now. My guess is we’ll have it this morning but I could be wrong.

I don’t care what race he is. Guy is a fucking piece of shit and should die.

1 hour ago, Redondo said:

Nordstrom ransacked by 80 looters with crowbars, weapons: Witness

About 80 looters in ski masks ransacked a Nordstrom location outside of San Francisco, in a scene described by witnesses as "insane" and like something "out of a movie."  

"We probably saw 50 to 80 people in ski masks crowbars a bunch of weapons. They were looting the Nordstrom's right here. And I thought they were going to start beating cars. I had to start locking doors lock the front door lock the back door," local PF Chang's manager Brett Barrette told KGO.

"There was a mob of people," Barrette added to CBS SF. "The police were flying in. It was like a scene out of a movie. It was insane."

The incident unfolded before 9 p.m. on Saturday evening in Walnut Creek, which is about 25 miles outside San Francisco. A local reporter tweeted footage of the scene and said about 25 cars pulled up outside of the Nordstrom before running in, grabbing merchandise and fleeing. 

 

That's what happens when you don't make crooks accountable for their actions

Right in Nancy's backyard

Expect to see more of this happening

Coordinated crimes with groups of crooks

I grew up in the east bay right next to Walnut Creek. Really nice area so sad to see it there.

This isn't Pelosi's district and the article does say they arrested two people so I expect more to follow once names are given up. 

But I agree, shooting them on the spot would go a long way. 

Just now, Jason said:

That’s the thing, there are real injustices out there (South Carolina cop incident) yet they choose any of them where the cop is white and the other guy is black. Some people are so fixated on race that it they pretty much have blinders on. 

Imagine losing your life over Jacob Blake. 

18 minutes ago, Jason said:

I believe Blake was also accused of molesting her daughter too or something like that. Thankfully he’s paralyzed and can’t sexually abuse anyone else now

People in life just don't know how to pick the right battle to fight (because there are some worth getting upset about). 

Luckily they dropped their initial outrage about the teenage black girl that lunged at someone with a knife a few months back, forcing a cop to kill her. 

14 hours ago, Jason said:

I can't believe that they are sticking with the lies and false narratives of this story, even though all the evidence was just brought forth in a trial for the world to see. Anyone with a functioning brain will see through this nonsense. 

So I watched the video for the first time in over a year. The video clearly shows self defense but something I missed was apparently the first shooting isn't caught on camera (the molester guy). Am I incorrect and there is a video? Or is it in this one?  The video starts off with him being chased and people saying to stop him because he shot someone. And then proceeds to show him killing skateboard guy and wounding bicep dude. 

If not, my gut tells me Rittenhouse probably acted in self defense with regards to that first shooting but there is no definitive evidence that I'm aware of. 

4 hours ago, Redondo said:

Brazen suspects fill cars with stolen household goods outside store

 

 

It's great that they recorded this but maybe next time call the cops while it's happening. Maybe someone did but from the short clip, didn't appear anyone outside did. 

1 hour ago, Lhalo said:

The libs always bail from this place. It's kind of like real life. Now that their president is shown to be a complete retard they can't the heat and they leave.

Meh. The last remaining ones have pretty much left but the core group left during Trump. Any time a thread got bumped from five plus years ago just reminded me how much more fun this forum was back then with a whole lot more people contributing. Pretty boring now compared to back then.

St1ck hasn't logged in since November 1 and Rico only makes periodic appearances. Oh well. 

2 hours ago, Jason said:

Not at all but I take full responsibility for the direction of my life.

Seriously. Not sure why mmc is waiting for Joe to improve his life. You never know when things can turn on a dime but like I have said before, my life has been pretty good with Obama, Trump and Biden as President. I'll attribute that to myself.

If I read and understood this article (from July) correctly, Biden has been approving new leases on drilling. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/u-s-drilling-approvals-increase-despite-biden-climate-pledge

With the keystone pipeline being only eight percent complete when Biden nixed it, I don't think that was much of a factor but I could be wrong. 

Gas actually started to rise in December of 2020 when things started to open back up. 

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-inflation-consumer-prices-prices-economy-f12aae35ce29cf65debeb09050f2b651

A big part (but not all) of this is supply and demand it would seem but I'm no expert. I would defer @mtangelsfanif he cares to come back to the cesspool known as the spin forum.
 

1 hour ago, Tank said:

I’d sure like to hear the activists call out other countries. They have a way of making this sound like it’s only and exclusively a US problem.

I believe when Biden woke up from his nap, he did call out China and Russia. Mainly for not attending the summit in person (which people will argue was better for the environment) but apparently they just did pre-recorded videos of something. 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/02/cop26-joe-biden-lambasts-china-absence

Arch originally posted the actual quote  and not the “paraphrase” from Jason.

Before he did that, I thought what Jason had been saying was the actual quote. I feel slightly betrayed. 

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

We need to stop paying our fair share to the rest of the planet 

Agreed. We should be consistent with everyone we give money to and what we complain about.

Unfortunately listening to Trump or any other politician though is not going to help because it’s all about the talking points and therefore the inconsistency of what people get upset about.

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

I don't believe Israel is a part of NATO so I'm not sure what they would be paying into. 

Also lol at how much the US spends 

NATO Spending by Country (worldpopulationreview.com)

Top Countries Contributing To The United Nations - WorldAtlas

I didn’t say Israel was part of NATO. I’m talking about how people complain about NATO not paying their fair share but don’t seem to speak up about how much we give for Israel’s defense.