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I doubt the team ever learns Trout will not resign here, even if he reaches FA. No chance he is moved before the mid season 2020 trade deadline.

1. The Angels must make a strong playoff push this year. I would argue it is imperative we at least make it the WC game.

2. The relationship between Ausmus and Trout will be critical.

3. Other players and the union will put pressure on Trout to file for free agency. If healthy his deal would reestablish the top of the market. I expect the relationship between the union and MLB to deteriorate rapidly between now and December 2021, when the current CBA expires.

4. If I’m Trout I wait until after 2020 to sign. He will reestablish the top of the market. Pick who he wants based on who is best set-up to make multiple WS runs.

5. The new CBA may radically change how team’s can structure themselves for future WS runs. Will the current free agency service time rules continue? Will players automatically reach FA at age 28 or so? Ton of other unknown variables.

Free agency isn’t broken. The CBA is.

its absolutely ludicrous that teams are heavily incentived to have some of their best players in the minors due to service time manipulation.

Change FA to be 8 years after being drafted out of high school. 6 after college. 

Shows how much money MLB teams are making. Mid to small market teams make bank kids  

9 hours ago, floplag said:

I never said you didnt need decent regulars, i clearly said i wasn't knocking them.   But you are again assuming that when all that happens, assuming it does, that we still have Trout/Ohtani/Simmons, that is still not known.   If we do not, who puts up those higher WARs to make us competitive?

I thoroughly enjoy how this community now refers to WAR as a given when talking about value. That is all. 

15 hours ago, notherhalo said:

The off-season is boring, here's some:

Trading for Teixera and than NOT resigning him actually got us Trout. (The Yanks pick)

Trading with Toronto for Wells actually hurt us more by giving Napoli (and Vlad) to our rival at the time.  

There's gottoa be more 

This. It was a negotiating ploy to lower his bonus dollars. Trout was #2 on the Yankees and Angels board that year. Many Rockie scouts were super high on him yet that faction lost out on draft day. 

13 hours ago, AngelArcher said:

Krod signing with the Mets netted Trout. Unless you actually believe they had Grichuk higher on their board. From what I remember, it was an inside joke between Morhardt and Bane taking Grichuk first and possibly a negotiation tactic.

Will be interesting how catchers perform without Scioscia micromanaging them. 

Pujols took BP in a cage yesterday at Angel Stadium. He’s not going to retire just yet kids. 

I don’t understand the hate here. If he finds his stuff we let him walk and tag him with a qualifying offer. If he doesn’t work out it’s only a 1 year deal.

Dude has no problems pitching in a large market.

This offseason is getting better and better. 

7 minutes ago, VariousCrap said:

 

True, but I honestly think we will see Bour starting against righties, Pujols starting against lefties and Ohtani at DH.  

TheAlbertross would be an incredible waste of a roster spot in that case.

Looks like he’s going to be DFA’ed when Ohtani comes back if he doesn’t produce. Hallelujah!!!

2 hours ago, jordan said:

 

Ausmus for the win!

14 minutes ago, Lou said:

neither is a .246 BA 

Trolling at a late hour. You are better than that. 

Still can't believe we traded him for Too Blessed to be Stressed.

Would love it if the organization signed him as a minor league hitting instructor. Walks are not a false stat. 

Beltre wanted to sign with the Angels. Arte didnt want to negotiate with Boras. Rangers land Beltre. Great job Arte!

On 11/19/2018 at 9:33 PM, VariousCrap said:

 

If the Angels make the offer and Trout declines it, should the Angels at least start listening to offers for Trout?  I think that would make sense under that situation.

Absolutely. If Trout won’t sign an extension you must start listening to offers. 

On 11/10/2018 at 3:34 PM, Dochalo said:

I don't want to.  

Thankfully the Rangers stopped this from happening. 

Watch the team sign Mathis. 

TheAlbertross for Arod. Been saying this since we signed him. 

I’d be surprised if he lands another MLB managerial gig. He doesn’t fit the type FOs want to hire now. At all. 

2 hours ago, fanfromday1 said:

Just some 'Out-of-the-Box' thinking here, and I'm sure it won't be a popular idea, but what if the Angels offered Pujols a new contract with a '1' year extension. Something like they did with Upton last year. Give him a contract for an additional year at a very low amount that would lower his average salary over the next few years. Then just keep him on the team as a pinch-hitter only.  Would something like that offer the Angel sufficient salary relief ?

Why would we waste a valuable roster spot on a garbage hitter?

16 minutes ago, ettin said:

Madison Bumgarner will not cost us one of those two. He is not worth that much in trade. More likely to send one guy from our Top 8-20 or two guys even further back than that. This assumes the Giants are going to retool their roster, they may not and just continue trying to compete. Also they may extend him too although I doubt it.

Really? There are at least 10-15 other teams that will be in on him. He would cost far more than you think. 

Blaming Scioscia for the team’s perceived underperformance really lacks an understanding of the importance of a MLB manager. This isn’t the NFL - where a good coach can truly double a team’s win total. Or like Champions League futbol.

A MLB manager at most adds 5 wins over the course of a season. A bad manager (Mike Matheny) can cost you 20+. 

Scioscia was definitely heavily involved in the awful Vernon Wells trade. Ask Napoli his opinion on Scioscia...

i grew to respect MS more in the past few years. Despite being a stubborn man (how did Mickey Hatcher have a job as hitting coach for so long was beyond me) he had shown the willingness to take significant steps to be more evidenced based in using data to make decisions in the past few years - principally after Dipoto left. 

3 hours ago, Kody Mac said:

Shelby Miller and Sonny Gray

Agree here. Sonny Gray would be an excellent target.