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    The Angels Next Moves (Post-Lockout)

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

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    37 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

     

    Yes, this and this. It would be--and might still be--different if Jordyn Adams was studding it up in AA, but he's basically had two lost years and isn't at all where--after 2019--we'd hoped he be at this point: not far from major league readiness (after 2019, it was reasonable to expect that he'd spend 2020 in A+/AA, 2021 in AA/AAA, 2022 in AAA/MLB). Instead, Adams lost a year in 2020 and looked lost in A+ (again) in 2021. Right now the best-case scenario for him is that he starts strong in A+ and then spends the rest of the year in AA, with a major league ETA of late 2023 or 2024. So at the least, the Angels need Marsh and Adell for another two years, and then can re-consider if and when Adams looks ready for the bigs.

    The next two guys in the Angels once-plentiful minor league outfield train--Knowles and Deveaux--have also stagnated, and then the guys after them--Ramirez, Calabrese, Santana, etc--are years away. And none of these guys look as good as Adell and Marsh, or the rosy-colored view of Adams' upside (with the possible exception of Ramirez, who a few years from now could be anything from a bonafide elite power hitter on the cusp of the majors to a minor league wash-up).

    The point being, the Angels have two very valuable players in Marsh and Adell: cost-controlled talented position players, with a low likelihood of injury and a good chance of developing into at least above average regulars, and a not insignificant chance at stardom. You just don't trade away guys like that, unless you have more than you need, and until Adams takes a big step forward, they don't.

    Plus, I've been wanting to see that Trout-Adell-Marsh outfield for years. And as Blarg implied, don't fill holes by making new ones (gross).

    Honestly, the only way I'd consider trading one of Marsh or Adell is if the Orioles called, offering Adley Rutschman for Marsh or Adell and another lesser prospect or two. But that ain't happening. 

    I completely agree you on this. At this point why trade them now. I bet the stock value of both players are going to increase over the next couple of seasons.  

    It would be a shame to see either one of these guys having a productive MLB career in another uniform (like Carney Lansford or Jim Edmonds).   

    Our young starters

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

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    5 hours ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

    If Mathis is the best avaiable defensive catcher, grab Him! I do not want to watch Suzuki catch for us again!

     

    Whatever happened to Jose Briseno? really enjoyed watching him Catch for us! He can't hit for shit, but he can Catch! 

    Yep agree, we need a strong defensive - backup catcher really don't care how good his bat is just as long as he strong behind the plate.  

    Cubs sign Stroman

    in LA Angels | MLB Daily

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    1 hour ago, Duren, Duren said:

    Really long term deals for pitchers (more than four years) is insane. So many things can go wrong. When a pitcher gets into his thirties he is more at risk injury wise. The more wear and tear, the higher the risk. Stuff wise, velocity usually drops down. How he adapts depends on the individual. Many do figure out new ways to maximize their strengths and compensate for what isn't a strength anymore. Kershaw is a current example. But look at his medical history. 

    Better to put money and resources into scouting and development and hope for quality results at lower cost for half a dozen years. Veterans need to be part of the mix of course, but unless the team is a serious championship contender the risk may too severe long term. It's easy to lose rationality and fantasize about one player making a  monumental difference on a flawed team. It excites the fans and raises expectations. 

    Very well said, couldn't agree more with this statement. 

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