ScruffytheJanitor

I think they will and it's going to be Blake Snell. Something like 6/180 with opt outs coming in years two and four.
He gets paid the money that he's clearly worth while also scoring opt outs for a better situation every other year. There might even be a spoken deal that has Minasian dealing him away if they aren't competitive. 
It's an imperfect yet decent enough fit. First things first, I think he's the only pitcher in baseball that has three offerings with a 50% whiff rate, which is just unheard of outside of very specific Cy Young types. The Angels definitely need more swing and miss. Second, I think being left handed really protects him from the short porch in RF moreso than most. Third, the bullpen depth works to his advantage. Fourth, I don't think he gets too bent out of shape over contract negotiations or not having a team before ST. He's very even keeled. He'll just keep playing his video games until it's time to show up and pitch.

I don't care what other teams will or will not do.  I care that the Angels could improve themselves without blowing their wad on Snell/Bellinger and aren't doing it. 
I agree it seems pointless to invest so heavily in the pen and then pin their hopes on health and in house improvement, but that's exactly the sort of thing the Angels under Moreno have been known for.  They have a chance to create depth in the rotation.  They could improve their depth at MI.  They still may, I hope they do but I'm no expecting it.
I'm not as down on them as most, but they are the closest they have been to being truly irrelevant than at any point prior to 1995.

Well shit then the coaches will get us a 90 win season with that Ron Washington attitude!!! 
JK we will be a 70 win team.

Bottom line -- I'm hopeful that we AT LEAST have risen to the level of having merely a "bad" bullpen instead of catastrophic. I even have some hope of getting to below average. 

Honestly, after the past few years, I'd almost rather go 50-112 with no hope and no goals then go 75-87 with 20 logic-defying bullpen collapses. I'd rather be bad throughout the roster then have one more f'n year of having an otherwise decent club that is sunk time and time again by terrible bullpen play. I swear -- every year we go into June thinking "Man, all we really need is a top-end starter, one starting-caliber infielder, a little health luck.... and, oh yeah, we need to burn down and replace the entire bullpen except the one competent guy that we really should probably trade because there's no fucking way we get the four or five competent relievers we need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot."

And on top of that better coaching for the relievers in 2024

I think Scruffy was being facetious.

Typical doomcuck response. We had and have a top-26 bullpen in the majors. 

It looks like they tried to build a delorean in minecraft.  

It looks like a Nintendo 64 polygon ass car.

Our bullpen was pretty damn bad. 

That will prove to be one of the worst trades that Minasian will make.

then don't shop there.  5-6 year deals because 'there isn't much else' is a horrible way to run a baseball team. 

Looking back at the 2017 draft in the second round, Griffith Canning is of three players to have any success in the majors out of 39 picks. The other two guys are catchers. 

There are a lot of junk names on the 40. The first three candidates in my opinion are all relievers, in Quijada, Warren, and Herget. Two of these guys are out for 2024 with TJ, and havent been that successful in their major league careers so probably would clear waivers.
If they add another reliever, they could also lose another one of these three or go with guys like Suarez or Rosenberg...who may be why they haven't signed another lefty pen arm, they could be envisioning one of them in that role. Suarez is out of options, so he is either cut or makes the major league team. 
They can shift guys to the 60-Day IL as soon as pitchers and catchers report, though the 60 days don't start until Opening Day.
 

I am comfortable being optimistic about Adell for 2024.  I think he has figured out enough to have an acceptable floor.
If Adell settles into an everyday job, signing Bellinger could really be a boost.  
I like the insurance of Bellinger and Ward both being capable of playing some first in case Schanuel struggles.

Nearly every post in this thread could be rephrased to “I am so fucking bored by the lack of moves.”

So Anderson and Sandy need to pitch every 7 days and canning needs to go every 4!

They sign Plesac and reports have interest in Kike Hernandez and Adam Duvall. The writing is on the wall and it's a duck.

From everything I've gathered over the past couple weeks, Arte Moreno is still reeling from losing Ohtani as he seriously thought the two-way sensation was going to stay. Losing him to the cross town rival Dodgers was just a dagger to his side and he's been disenchanted since. 
While butthurt and without any direction, he's stuck in that where the F do we go next mode while unwilling to overpay for Bellinger, Snell, Hader (at this time), since he's been burned by Hamilton, Pujols, Rendon's contracts in the past.
Arte is also stalling to move on anyone significant due to the pending Ballys TV deal in court. As are other teams.
Meanwhile Perry Minasian has been trying to add some mid-tier pieces and has even went to Arte about a certain starting pitcher some of us have wanted on here but Arte told him NO WAY. Didn't want the PR nightmare attached to the player, but it was interesting that Perry approached him and views him as top of the rotation arm, solid #2 on a good team. 
The thought is that Arte is bag of emotions & at a crossroads with the TV deal in play, but at any time he could just say F it and go big or just roll with what they currently have and let Perry fill in some voids in the mid-tier market. 

When you need to distill your argument just give us a DM. 

So because you got burned by Pujols, Hamilton and Rendon all your choices. The fans need to pay.
Sell the team please.  Give Perry a raise for dealing with your mess as well.
 
 

I assumed he'd pick it up from Plesac himself when he's DFA'd in June. 

At kohls for $9 in the clearance section?