GrittyVeterans

8 minutes ago, Fourts said:

That's not my point

What was it? That you think you’re better than people that don’t have a college degree?

9 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yes, but most hate him because of his political beliefs, which is dumb.  

His on field performance wasn’t good last year though. He’ll get another chance elsewhere. His prior 2 seasons were good enough for that and he still throws hard.

The Angels have enough hot and cold guys in the Pen with Robles, Buttrey, etc. 

they need to invest in someone more reliable. I expect that to be one of the many priorities for Minasian going into a complicated offseason 

Thank God

2 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Well, at this point it's hard to believe he was ever clean.   Dude was a non-prospect until he went absolutely apeshit at age 22 in AAA.  His MLB career OPS of .844 is over 80 points higher than his career numbers in the minors, and we aren't talking a small sample, he had over 2K minor league PAs

So taking Roids made him over 200 million dollars. Absolutely worth it

Just now, eaterfan said:

Is there a serious argument one can make that Torii Hunter should be in the HOF when Andruw Jones should not be? 

Nope. But there are worse players than both of them in the HOF so who knows 

4 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

I think his HOF chances are officially gone now 

They were already gone but yeah. Guys an idiot. I had a feeling he was on roids again when I saw the numbers he put up last year

Mets have a lot of money to spend now. It’s too bad that couldn’t have happened to Pujols...lol

The bottom line is the outfield is a total disaster defensively. Upton and Adell were liabilities and Trout has clearly lost a step and can’t cover for them. I don’t think the infield is going to be the issue...you’ve got Rendon, Fletcher, Rengifo and can add Wong or Simmons. That seems just fine to me

once again we have too many DH only guys on this roster in Upton, Ohtani, and Pujols. Minasian has his hands full with that

I like Hendricks’ track record and consistency a lot more than Darvish’s. Darvish is a frustrating pitcher and a bit of an enigma at times
 

But realistically the Angels need both if they aren’t getting Bauer. This team needs a #1 and a #2. I feel comfortable with Bundy-Heaney-Canning as the 3-4-5. If you are still counting on Ohtani I just feel sorry for you at this point

the only way I’m building a package around Adell/Marsh is if I’m getting both

I don’t see how you can be an Angels fan and NOT be concerned about Arte Moreno at this point. 
 

he is as incompetent as it gets

Moreno is a total disaster.

the issue was never Reagins, Dipoto, Scioscia, or Eppler.

I feel bad that I ever thought for a second it was

We need Arte to sell. 
 

And I don’t mean sell talent from the MLB club. I mean sell the entire franchise.

Guy isn’t cut out to be an owner. The good teams don’t have an owner that’s involved in decisions like he is

Eppler will be getting another chance at being a Gm in this league elsewhere just like Dipoto did

The Angels are in a situation with the pitching where they cannot afford to spend more than 3 or 4 million on a 2nd baseman this year. If they could afford more they would simply give Simmons a 3 year deal and keep Fletcher at 2nd.

It is what it is. 2B is going to be an unproductive position next season. You can thank the Upton and Pujols contracts for that one

Signing Rendon instead of Cole was never the issue with Eppler. 

My big concern is the lack of progression on the farm in the upper minors. The farm system he inherited sucked, we all get that. He wasn’t going to turn lemons into lemonade in a year. But 5 years later I was really hoping we’d have a solid amount of guys in the high minors ready to come up and make an impact. I’m not seeing the massive improvement in farm quality that some are stating, really. It’s clearly better than the Dipoto days. 5 years of losing you would think we’d have a top 10 farm at least. 
 

its true some of the reason why we don’t have a great farm is because we’re always trying to win with Trout and are never really being true sellers(not selling Simmons last year for example)

but why is it that certain teams that have been winning And looking to bolster their current team the last 4-5 years STILL have a better Farm than us.

to me that is an indictment on the scouting and the inability to evaluate and then develop talent, whether it’s from the draft or from the international pool

thats why I feel like we’re in purgatory right now as a franchise. The money is already spent so it’s impossible now to upgrade the team through free agency. And we don’t have the talent coming up through the minors to get better on our own. That’s the main reason why we’re in huge trouble the next 3-4 years I think

It’s too bad we’re too deep into the mess to just do a full rebuild. Watching the White Sox and Padres tear it up this year is frustrating

The #1 overall pick in the draft is the only possible remaining great thing to come of this shitty season. Hoping for that

Well we’re 12-24 now.

goal should be to go 8-16 the rest of the way and finish up 20-40. Would give us a realistic shot at Rocker if there’s no lottery

Hopefully the return is somewhat decent. Goodwin was solid here

2 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

I mean I’m pretty sure we all said the same when someone floated out the idea of signing Rendon...

I no longer put anything past this dumpster fire of an organization 

Rendon is a superstar in his prime and Simmons is kinda just an above average regular now. Big difference there but I get your point

There’s no way the Angels are actually going to give Simmons 10 million this offseason with their pitching situation the way that it is, right?

The only way standing pat today makes any sense is if Eppler isn’t the Gm come November.

if they stand pat today and then he gets a coNtract extension I will have lost the little remaining faith I had in Arte Moreno and the rest of the organization 

4 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

Bundy, Heaney have been good. Goodwin has been good as well putting up close to an 800 ops. Simmons was injured is a gold glove out of this world short stop who's putting up decent to good offensive numbers. 

Saying Heaney has been “good” is a stretch. He’s not the terrible but an ERA of 4.50 isn’t going to get much in a return

Just now, angelsnationtalk said:

Arte want him for the records. He will pay him whatever it takes for Pujols to do it in an Angels uniform. 

After passing Mays hopefully in September, what records are there for him to realistically get to now. He’s not passing Aaron on the RBI list and has no chance at Really getting to 700.
 

that was kind of my point of starting the thread: he’s mostly done or will have done the records Arte and him wanted. Where do you go from here?

The biggest indication that Eppler won’t be here is that his contract wasn’t extended during the coronavirus.

like him or not, I’m simply stating that you usually don’t see a Gm get to the end of their contract and then return to the same club I don’t think. Maybe there are a few examples of this that I’m unaware of though?

1 minute ago, Dtwncbad said:

There really isn’t an excuse to not make any more deals, is there?

Of course not. They should be getting what they can for anyone that’s an FA next year. They did it with La Stella and Castro so far and need to do it with at least Simmons still.

The issue is that the Gm is on his way out and might not have the leash to get creative