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Have any actual teammates come out and said this?  Any executives?   If you have any links or references id like to see it for my own knowledge.  I do know that many have supported him including Mookie Betts as i recall.  I think i put more credence in the word of guys that played with him than anything else personally 

Sure, he didnt fail us, we failed him. 
Had Arte made an actual effort to win none of this ever happens

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Itys a virtual guarantee that people/players you like are equally as potentially depraved, the only difference is you dont know about it. 
The man was proven innocent, he deserves a chance, the rest is nonsense. 

Shoulda woulda coulda... none of that happens without the teams putting them out there which is what we should have done. 
See it how you will, its moot now. 

Optimal point, OUT of a playoff spot, and looking up and teams that all had a better chance to improve than we did. 
The odds were long even then by any book or projection.
We all get optimistic but the reality of it was very different than the flowery picture you paint and you know that, or should. 

Optimal point, OUT of a playoff spot, and looking up and teams that all had a better chance to improve than we did. 
The odds were long even then by any book or projection.
We all get optimistic but the reality of it was very different than the flowery picture you paint and you know that, or should. 

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Itys a virtual guarantee that people/players you like are equally as potentially depraved, the only difference is you dont know about it. 
The man was proven innocent, he deserves a chance, the rest is nonsense. 

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Itys a virtual guarantee that people/players you like are equally as potentially depraved, the only difference is you dont know about it. 
The man was proven innocent, he deserves a chance, the rest is nonsense. 

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Itys a virtual guarantee that people/players you like are equally as potentially depraved, the only difference is you dont know about it. 
The man was proven innocent, he deserves a chance, the rest is nonsense. 

No, it isnt understandable at all, its cowardly.
ANY other plater, literally any one on the planet, in a walk year that your not sure you could sign you trade them, it happens every off season how many times?  its what should have been done with him.
Its a 30 second explanation, we werent sure we could resign him so we did what was best for the club.  Period, its over, move on. 
No one would have faulted him for it, no one. 

It isnt about faulting him for not competing with the Dodgers.. its about not knowing he could or what the situation was and acting accordingly. 
He should have known what it would take
He should have known if he was willing to do that
He should have  made differing choices if he wasnt completely aware of all those things. 
he should have sold the club last off season, he should have traded Ohtani at that same time.
He consistently made the wrong choice at every turn from a baseball perspective.
Yes i 100% can fault him for that. 
Hes the reason people dont want to come here going back to the last dodger trade fiasco.. hes looked like a monkey fucking a football ever since. 

so.. he wouldnt trade him, then wouldnt pay what it took?  either he was totally out of touch with the costs or just didnt have the balls 

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Itys a virtual guarantee that people/players you like are equally as potentially depraved, the only difference is you dont know about it. 
The man was proven innocent, he deserves a chance, the rest is nonsense. 

It isnt about faulting him for not competing with the Dodgers.. its about not knowing he could or what the situation was and acting accordingly. 
He should have known what it would take
He should have known if he was willing to do that
He should have  made differing choices if he wasnt completely aware of all those things. 
he should have sold the club last off season, he should have traded Ohtani at that same time.
He consistently made the wrong choice at every turn from a baseball perspective.
Yes i 100% can fault him for that. 
Hes the reason people dont want to come here going back to the last dodger trade fiasco.. hes looked like a monkey fucking a football ever since. 

so.. he wouldnt trade him, then wouldnt pay what it took?  either he was totally out of touch with the costs or just didnt have the balls 

so.. he wouldnt trade him, then wouldnt pay what it took?  either he was totally out of touch with the costs or just didnt have the balls 

so.. he wouldnt trade him, then wouldnt pay what it took?  either he was totally out of touch with the costs or just didnt have the balls 

Its passed.
Everyone wants pitching, hes arguably maybe the best available and should come cheaper and lower risk. 
Not everyone that plays the game is a great human being in every possible way, i dont care if hes a freak in the bedroom thats not my bussiness. 

Its passed.
Everyone wants pitching, hes arguably maybe the best available and should come cheaper and lower risk. 
Not everyone that plays the game is a great human being in every possible way, i dont care if hes a freak in the bedroom thats not my bussiness. 

i dont really care.. he failed us.  He came in all talk of taking over LA and in the end put business over results and fucked us out of a once in a lifetime player.
That having been said im glad we didnt do 70M AAV, but IMO it never should have come to that.  He should have been extended or traded a year ago and been done with it.
This embarrasses me as a lifetime fan of this franchise so youll forgive me if i dont care how Arte feels. 

i dont really care.. he failed us.  He came in all talk of taking over LA and in the end put business over results and fucked us out of a once in a lifetime player.
That having been said im glad we didnt do 70M AAV, but IMO it never should have come to that.  He should have been extended or traded a year ago and been done with it.
This embarrasses me as a lifetime fan of this franchise so youll forgive me if i dont care how Arte feels. 

Honestly, if im him, i ask for a trade.
If they dont pull miracles out of thier arse for the rest of this off season, come ST im asking out. 
I would not blame him at all for doing so. 

Well thats madness... as much as i wanted to keep him im glad we didnt do that and i want no part of a contract like that.
Im angry at how badly thing whole thing has been mismanaged, but not that we didnt pay that. I wish him luck.
Now we get to see what Arte and Parry are truly worth over the next couple months. 

Hes included as the PTBNL

This feels like the most halo deal ever... a signing a guy that had a worse year than what we already have and paying him more than what we pay the guys we have.
I dont see the sense in this one at all... whatever it is they think they see i hope it works out as thats a large chunk to pay for what could be a downgrade.