Angelsjunky

As for the trade, I get that the offseason isn't over and that Dipoto can still (hopefully/somehow) pull a rabbit out of a hat and assemble a good pitching staff to complement the strong offense. I'm also happy that this strengthens Calhoun's place on the team; as far as I can tell, I was touting Calhoun back when you and Dave were saying that he wasn't much of a prospect. Whatever. But I see it as a bad trade, at least taken in a vacuum - and as the first move of the offseason. Bourjos and Freese are roughly equal, although Bourjos is three years younger and with more upside. Grichuk has some potential while Salas is another mediocre middle reliever with one good year a couple years ago. This trade could turn out well, but the consensus view of most fans and analysts is that the Angels got taken. This has been par for the course with Dipoto and Reagins, which is very, very discouraging.

As for the trade, I get that the offseason isn't over and that Dipoto can still (hopefully/somehow) pull a rabbit out of a hat and assemble a good pitching staff to complement the strong offense. I'm also happy that this strengthens Calhoun's place on the team; as far as I can tell, I was touting Calhoun back when you and Dave were saying that he wasn't much of a prospect. Whatever. But I see it as a bad trade, at least taken in a vacuum - and as the first move of the offseason. Bourjos and Freese are roughly equal, although Bourjos is three years younger and with more upside. Grichuk has some potential while Salas is another mediocre middle reliever with one good year a couple years ago. This trade could turn out well, but the consensus view of most fans and analysts is that the Angels got taken. This has been par for the course with Dipoto and Reagins, which is very, very discouraging.

As for the trade, I get that the offseason isn't over and that Dipoto can still (hopefully/somehow) pull a rabbit out of a hat and assemble a good pitching staff to complement the strong offense. I'm also happy that this strengthens Calhoun's place on the team; as far as I can tell, I was touting Calhoun back when you and Dave were saying that he wasn't much of a prospect. Whatever. But I see it as a bad trade, at least taken in a vacuum - and as the first move of the offseason. Bourjos and Freese are roughly equal, although Bourjos is three years younger and with more upside. Grichuk has some potential while Salas is another mediocre middle reliever with one good year a couple years ago. This trade could turn out well, but the consensus view of most fans and analysts is that the Angels got taken. This has been par for the course with Dipoto and Reagins, which is very, very discouraging.

Freese is coming off a terrible season in which he had back trouble and is on the wrong side of 30. Plus he's a terrible defender.
 
Bourjos is injury-prone, but still only 27 and one of he best defensive players in the game. When he's healthy he plays like a star.
 
Bad, bad trade. I've lost all faith in Jerry Dipoto.

Oh god, please not just Freese. If so, it confirms Dipoto's moron status.

I'm feeling pretty disheartened right now. Dipoto is not who we thought he was two years ago. He's more like Tony Reagins than Bill Stoneman. I'm wondering if he's proving to be a target among smarter GMs.

Read about it here.
 
Cameron nails it here:
 
"The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same."
 
Its almost embarrassing. I'd say that the Angels are on their way to becoming a joke of a franchise, but the thing is the last four years have been terrible so we're already there. This trade just confirms it. I was hoping that we'd see a shift in gears this off-season, but it looks like more Dipoto being Dipoto.

He's basically Darin Erstad without the 2000 season. He's about average as a hitter, maybe a bit above, and a great center fielder. And I mean great.
 
You guys won this, and it isn't even close. Enjoy him - he's a lot of fun to watch.

Read about it here.
 
Cameron nails it here:
 
"The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same."
 
Its almost embarrassing. I'd say that the Angels are on their way to becoming a joke of a franchise, but the thing is the last four years have been terrible so we're already there. This trade just confirms it. I was hoping that we'd see a shift in gears this off-season, but it looks like more Dipoto being Dipoto.

He's basically Darin Erstad without the 2000 season. He's about average as a hitter, maybe a bit above, and a great center fielder. And I mean great.
 
You guys won this, and it isn't even close. Enjoy him - he's a lot of fun to watch.

Read about it here.
 
Cameron nails it here:
 
"The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same."
 
Its almost embarrassing. I'd say that the Angels are on their way to becoming a joke of a franchise, but the thing is the last four years have been terrible so we're already there. This trade just confirms it. I was hoping that we'd see a shift in gears this off-season, but it looks like more Dipoto being Dipoto.

Read about it here.
 
Cameron nails it here:
 
"The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same."
 
Its almost embarrassing. I'd say that the Angels are on their way to becoming a joke of a franchise, but the thing is the last four years have been terrible so we're already there. This trade just confirms it. I was hoping that we'd see a shift in gears this off-season, but it looks like more Dipoto being Dipoto.

He's basically Darin Erstad without the 2000 season. He's about average as a hitter, maybe a bit above, and a great center fielder. And I mean great.
 
You guys won this, and it isn't even close. Enjoy him - he's a lot of fun to watch.

He's basically Darin Erstad without the 2000 season. He's about average as a hitter, maybe a bit above, and a great center fielder. And I mean great.
 
You guys won this, and it isn't even close. Enjoy him - he's a lot of fun to watch.

Read about it here.
 
Cameron nails it here:
 
"The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same."
 
Its almost embarrassing. I'd say that the Angels are on their way to becoming a joke of a franchise, but the thing is the last four years have been terrible so we're already there. This trade just confirms it. I was hoping that we'd see a shift in gears this off-season, but it looks like more Dipoto being Dipoto.

He's basically Darin Erstad without the 2000 season. He's about average as a hitter, maybe a bit above, and a great center fielder. And I mean great.
 
You guys won this, and it isn't even close. Enjoy him - he's a lot of fun to watch.

He's basically Darin Erstad without the 2000 season. He's about average as a hitter, maybe a bit above, and a great center fielder. And I mean great.
 
You guys won this, and it isn't even close. Enjoy him - he's a lot of fun to watch.

He's basically Darin Erstad without the 2000 season. He's about average as a hitter, maybe a bit above, and a great center fielder. And I mean great.
 
You guys won this, and it isn't even close. Enjoy him - he's a lot of fun to watch.

Petey just got a major upgrading, from our floundering team to one of the very best franchises in baseball. Good for him.

Don't mean to be critical Chuck, but just yesterday you were saying Shuck for Freese was fair. Bourjos >>> Shuck. Always going with the party line, buddy?

Don't mean to be critical Chuck, but just yesterday you were saying Shuck for Freese was fair. Bourjos >>> Shuck. Always going with the party line, buddy?

I'm feeling pretty disheartened right now. Dipoto is not who we thought he was two years ago. He's more like Tony Reagins than Bill Stoneman. I'm wondering if he's proving to be a target among smarter GMs.

Freese is coming off a terrible season in which he had back trouble and is on the wrong side of 30. Plus he's a terrible defender.
 
Bourjos is injury-prone, but still only 27 and one of he best defensive players in the game. When he's healthy he plays like a star.
 
Bad, bad trade. I've lost all faith in Jerry Dipoto.

LOL. This is a joke.

The point is that Bourjos had significant upside and would have made a great 4th outfielder for the Angels. You don't trade very talented players when they're coming off an injury-plagued season. You don't get a good return.