HaloBronco

2 hours ago, Warfarin said:

I know most people assume you have to spend a lot of money to win, but the Rays (and Guardians for awhile) prove every year that you don't.  A team with a strong analysis and scouting department can circumvent player payroll.  What we need Arte to do, beyond all else, is invest heavily in those areas.  It DOES seem like he is starting to, but that is only a fairly recent development.

We have some good young talent, but obviously need more.  What we CAN'T do, IMO, is start trading our young talent for "win now" type moves.  Keep developing players, see if you can overpay (within reason) for a player or two, and then keep building from within.

Yes this! spend the money/ invest in scouting and development by paying and getting the right people, maybe start with bringing back Victor Rojas as President of Baseball Operations.......

4 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

There are three areas, or at least three controllable areas (not counting luck/fate):

Health: I know, not fully controllable, but it isn't entirely outside of control, either. Trout needs to get on the phone with Novak Djokovic and find out some yoga moves and perhaps whatever alchemical concoctions Novak is drinking. Add in Rendon and Ward and the Angels got 222 games from those three, or an average of 74 games. That needs to improve, and almost certainly will. 222 games of Trout-Rendon-Ward yielded 4.7 WAR. With positive regression from all three and more games played, even just 350 games could give them 10+ WAR. The Angels were beyond even the worst-case reasonable scenario last year, so even if they still have injury issues in 2024, chances are it won't be nearly as bad. Meaning, they gain an easy 5 wins just through not having the worst injury-plagued season of all time, but the range starts there and could be +5 to 15 wins.

Player Development: Here's the good news: A larger number of Angels players are on the ascending arc: Neto, O'Hoppe, Schanuel, Moniak, Adell, Silseth, Detmers, even still Rengifo and Canning. Chances are there is overall improvement from this group. So again, a baseline +5 wins but with range being something like +5-10 wins.

Player Acquisitions: Many focus on this, and while it is obviously important, it is just one of three big areas of possible improvement - and I think probably less impactful than the other two. They need another starter or two and depth all around. +0-10 wins.

So a baseline of +10 wins from better health (it really can't be that bad again) and modest player development. But that is negated by the loss of Ohtani. 

So by my account, that's +10-30ish games...quite a range. Take away Ohtani and, at worst, they're around the same place, in the 70-75 win range. At best and they can win 90+, but...this is where luck/fate comes in, and the simple fact that they need someone to step forward and have a breakout/comeback year - and probably several players. Meaning, they really need Trout to return to being vaguely Trout-esque. They need one of Ward or Rendon to return to a better form of themselves and stay healthy. They need two or three of the young guys to grow up fast and be impact players. They need one or two of Sandoval, Detmers, Canning and Silseth to do more than be an erratic #3-4 and solidify as a strong #2. And they need some help from the outside.

 

 

Also add in the addition of what should be a Washington led coaching staff. 

Yep, absolutely love this place, thanks for everyone involved. 
 

just a great site.
 

Also at the point where I don’t want to hear about Ohtani anymore. 

8 hours ago, tomsred said:

In my mind, there will never be a better time to make make sweeping changes to the Angels organization.  Some of the things that pop into my mind are changing the name back to California Angels (just get rid of Los Angeles), changing the uniforms, redesigning the look of the stadium (inside and outside), put emergency emphasis on player development and the associated latest development tools, and hiring the best training staff possible.  With Ohtani gone for life, it's kind of a great time to step back and make calculated changes throughout.  I'm encouraged by the Arizona and Texas models, we can do that in short order.  Baseball is not about only one superstar on a team, if there was ever a total team game this is it.  I don't necessarily want any of the remaining high priced free agents, unless they are committed to this organization plan and are willing to be reasonable in cost.  I want the the overlooked and highly motivated young players.  High priced free agents are generally inefficient.  We have a great start with Washington and his staff for the time period we are currently in that includes important young players.

Tear down the hype in the stadium of individual players especially including the pictures on the stadium front.  I would use photos of team achievement over the years, especially 2002.  There are many great historical team photos as well besides 2002.  We will always have an affinity for the uniforms that were used in our first World Series win, but those could be used for many special occasions during the year, not the everyday ones.  I would incorporate some that had ocean blue and beach sand colors on a theme like the city connects.  I know you guys have some great ideas in your head, I would like to hear them voiced.  There will probably never be a better moment to make sweeping changes than now.   Done correctly, what a great way to bring back some of the excitement following the loss of the the greatest player to play this game to date.  It's time to bury grief and move on folks!

For those of you who want a new owner, I get it.  A lot of the above is what I would hope a new owner would do.  Embrace change, big change.  We have to ditch doing the same ineffective things.

 

 

Good post agree on most of it. Except the part about the city connect uniforms which I’m not a fan of (I’m most likely in the minority in that regard).  

Welcome aboard.

4 hours ago, Stradling said:

Philippe’s in LA. Place went crazy. 

Nice, Love that place.

Thanks guys, really appreciate you guys getting the urgency and getting this episode out to us.

100% agree I really want to see the Halos get back to the type of ball they played under Mauch/ Scioscia and get away from this station to station ball they been playing the last few years. 

It sucks losing Otani like this but at the same time I’m glad the Halos didn’t saddle the organization with that crazy contract. Clearly it’s easy to say they should have traded him last year. 
 

Now it’s time to move on. I would love to see them go after Yamamoto, Hicks and Solar. I think something like that would be a realistic possibility. 

Fingers crossed  
 

40 minutes ago, Tyler said:

I think he feels like he will sign Bellinger, Yamamoto, and Snell now. 

I hope out of those three it’s Yamamoto, I really hope they don’t target Bellinger or Snell.

15 minutes ago, Stradling said:

What’s the pivot?  

With the hiring of Washington, the team isn’t going to rebuild.  So what is the pivot? 

Is it Belinger and trade for Bieber?  

Is it all in on Yamamoto?  

Do they take on a bad contract to get an arm?  

I would hope it's all in on Yamamoto!

Also I hope they stay away from Bellinger.

Beiber depends on the price. 

32 minutes ago, Blarg said:

I really think the Angels need to let the unicorn go and build a conventional 5 man rotation. 

Regardless if they sign him or not I hope they go with a 5 man rotation this upcoming season.

The better baseball move would be to let him go and spread that capitol around to other players.

However emotionally it would be good to see him resign with the Halos and watch people melt down…..

1 minute ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Perry sounds a little too bullish on Stassi and Rendon. 
Just hope they aren't blinded with their decisions heading into this week.

As we know, nobody is going to be able to play every game so adding some quality depth is a must….

I predict people will complain and argue no matter what happens………..

I also think this has a 99.9% chance of happening…….

1 hour ago, Chuck said:

Why?

Montgomery was my pick in early Oct for the next manager spot for the Angels. I think this is a good move, though i would have prefered Clint Hurdle.

Disappointing.

I was hoping for Hurdle as well. Would have liked a clean slate (New voices), hopefully it will work out. 

11 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

If he signs here the shitshow on reddit and twitter will be legendary. Literally everyone is counting the Angels out. 

I want him back because obviously, but I also want him back simply to watch people lose their shit. 

Completely agree with you on that (Yes the fan side of me would like him back for obvious reasons but also the spiteful side of me would love to see everyone else losing their shit because he resigned with the Halos).

 Admittedly the better baseball move would be to not resign him and take that capitol and spread it around to other players.

26 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Ohtani goes to Blue Jays he will be own Canada. 

He's not going to Canada......

Here are my comps for the following players

Nolan Schanuel = Sean Casey

Zach Neto = Chase Utley 

Logan O'Hoppe = Lance Parrish

Ben Joyce = Todd Worrell

Mickey Moniak = Von Hayes

Jo Adell = Justin Upton (agree on that comp, if we're lucky)

My fear would be that there is some truth to this rumor….

Snell does seem like a poster child type of free agent (big splash mistakes that unfortunately the Halos have been known for under Arte).

Hoping there is no truth to this rumor……..

Thanks friends, another great show. Really appreciate all 3 of you guys taking the time over the holiday weekend to give us a show. Also loved the references in the show regarding Gene Mauch and then the speed teams from the 80’s Cardinals & Royals (loved how those teams played ball).

On 11/23/2023 at 7:52 AM, Stradling said:

Bobby Abreu is a HOFer.  I will die on that hill.  

Bobby Grich should be a HOFer. I will die on that hill…….

We all know nothing is happening with anyone till December….

The slow offseason continues, unfortunately……

Absolutely Love Victor, he absolutely needs to be part of the organization somehow…..

On 11/20/2023 at 2:35 PM, Roy Hobbs said:

Claudell will be a tough get, he died in 2020.

Bummer…

7 hours ago, Lazorko Saves said:

UL is the next Washington I want to see hired.

Hey while we’re scooping up Washington’s don’t forget about Claudell. 

Yep, Hot stove has been lame so far, hopefully it will change soon.