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David Vaseugh is the dumbest most homer reporter I have ever heard. Knows a lot about the Dodgers and literally nothing about baseball or the rest of MLB.

MadBum average fastball velocity by season is: 91.7 in 2019 91.4 in 2018 91.3 in 2017 91.7 in 2016 93 in 2015 92.8 in 2014 92.5 in 2013 92.2 in 2012 92.5 in 2011 92.0 in 2010 This “declining” is a false narrative.

The Fast and the Furious reference, nice... nvm that’s Spilner.

What about the 19 year old with the K name? Kochanwicz

If Cole doesn’t come home to the Angels, I honestly wouldn’t be upset with Bumgarner and Keuchel.

Let’s see if he signs. And I think it’s possible they sign Cole and Bumgarner, FYI. Say Cole gets 35.5 and MadBum gets 22. That’s 57.5, so the rotation of Cole, Ohtani, MadBum, Heaney, Bundy, and Canning then is paid roughly 69. Add the OF at 36 for Trout, 21 for Upton, and 1 for Goodwin, plus 550k for Adell /Hermosillo who is your 4th guy until Adell comes up...And you’ve got 58 more. Add 1 for Calhoun’s buyout. Add the infield at 15 for Simmons, 29 for Pujols, and 13 for Cozart, plus the small amount for 550 for Fletcher, 1.5 for LaStella, and 550 for Rengifo/ Thaiss. 60 more. Add the Pen at maybe 8 M combined. Gotta do something at Catcher but that’s a real payroll of roughly 195. Luxury tax would be about the same. You may have trouble bringing back Simmons in 2021 without going over the tax, because Ohtani would have to be paid that year.

If he signs with us, I’ll take that bet.

10 bucks says Bumgarner and his 3.13 career ERA ends up out performing Wheeler over the next 5 seasons.

If the Cubs would take Cozart and we were willing to take Kimbrel, it would significantly lower the prospect cost for Contreras. I don’t think they’d part with Marsh or Adell. But Rengifo and a few of the top prospects other than Adell or Marsh makes a lot of sense. If it costs Adams, I’d hate to see him go, but I could see it.

Bumgarner is as good of a bet as Ryu to be a 1/2 starter. He’s one year and one month older than Cole, one year younger than Strasburg. You’re buying his 30-34 seasons with a five year deal. He’s 10 months older than Wheeler. He had a Freak shoulder injury, and then came back and threw 200 innings with a 3.9 ERA for a bad team. He’s a workhorse with a history of success. I’d love to have him on our team. One funny note, he’s actually started a game against every team in the league, except one...and beaten every NL team. He’s never started against the Angels... so if they sign him, he won’t likely ever do so.

If money is equal, it comes down to this.. 1) Yankees are always a winner 2) Angels have been a winner in the last, could be again soon 3) Angels play in his Hometown 4) Yankees have a great team 5) Angels have a good lineup, which will get better and they have the best player in baseball. Plus Ohtani, plus Adell, plus Maddon. Plus no trash can...

Cole, Bumgarner, and Bundy.

Cots baseball contracts has a very accurate spreadsheet for all 30 teams

Bumgarner really should be third behind Cole and Strasburg. If they have a chance to get both those guys to add to Ohtani, Heaney, Bundt, and Canning. I’d be elated.

Thaiss had a great September and hopefully he buildS on it.

I really want the Angels to do the Red tops and White Pants as their regular uniforms, with the all whites as the Sunday or alternates. Then they do the Red Tops and Gray uniforms as their road uniforms with Navy Blue tops and gray pants as their Sunday or Alternates.

I actually only think they need to add a bat if it’s an elite position player .... Unless they decide to bring back Calhoun to play some RF, and some 1B. I like Thaiss the most of the “reinforcements” and think he’ll end up getting most of the playing time at 1st, (say 75-80 games, while Pujols gets 65-70, and LaStella or someone else gets 12-22) and some at 3rd. Unless we sign or trade for a 3rd basemen.

They might prefer Heaney. Add in Kimbrel for Cozart and I’m sold.

Yeah but Donaldson’s commitment will be less and so will his money. In 3 seasons they can get another 3B via free agency or can draft a college hitter at the position this draft with an eye on the future, or Fletcher can end up at 3b too. Wilson / Jones at 2nd.

Let’s stop with the recency bias too guys... David has one year plus of experience, Simmons has 7? It’s far easier to predict what a player will do with experience than one without. Another example is La Stella, is he the new player we saw last year or a platoon player? Donaldson I felt was always a bit overrated, but he really hits and is a GG defender.

Simmons is a much better shortstop than Fletch. Simmons had a better bat but was a little off last year. No one wants to give value for a player off a down year so I doubt he’s traded.

I’ve never been a fan, but am now wondering if they sign Cole and fail to get Wheeler, would they be better off trying to get Donaldson or Rendon. With Fletcher and La Stella, along with Rengifo, Thaiss, Ward, Cozart, they have infield depth.... Signing a premier hitter (especially Donaldson, who would not require a long commitment) may be just the thing to put them over the top.

I don’t understand the Smith move unless they’ve already got something in the works. They definitely need a catcher now, perhaps two.

If they’re healthy Angels should take a flyer on one of these guys. Not claiming necessarily but trying to sign for a lower number than arbitration would’ve paid perhaps on a two year contract

Actually, it was close: Starters and Primary Pitchers accounted for 779.1 IP, and a 5.68 ERA. Bullpen and Openers were close to 656.2 IP, and an ERA of 4.40. I'd forgotten I did the spreadsheet. I am missing one start of 6.2, with 7 ER / 10 R but I don't know where I messed up. I must've just mistyped one, now I can't figure it LOL. Bottom Line is SP needs to be improved and BP should improve with less innings and the subtraction of the bad pitchers and a new pitching coach.