AngelsFanSince86

Maybe that’s why pitchers don’t want to sign with the Angels. They either die, get TJ, and/or disappear into the ether.

You guys suck at syllables 

This makes it so much worse honestly. On the Angels, not you. Word was that Ray wasn't going to sign, but Mariners pushed hard for him and so he signed. That deal was not crazy money and if that was their guy they should have done whatever it takes to get him. This just goes to show "they" aren't actually willing to pay for the "right guy". 

During the season I've become pretty ambivalent about them, but every offseason it somehow still drives me nuts even though I know it's coming

This makes it so much worse honestly. On the Angels, not you. Word was that Ray wasn't going to sign, but Mariners pushed hard for him and so he signed. That deal was not crazy money and if that was their guy they should have done whatever it takes to get him. This just goes to show "they" aren't actually willing to pay for the "right guy". 

Yeah I'm just not the type to like watching other teams play each other outside of October. If I stopped watching the Angels and started focusing on another team in time I would develop the same love. 
The problem is they need more than just one more arm. So trading for Castillo isn't it and it's going to cost them the future. Free agency costs money, but allows you to develop the farm which long term will save you money. Trading the farm away now just means they will be in a worse position than they are in now if those trade targets don't pan out or leave for free agency.

During the season I've become pretty ambivalent about them, but every offseason it somehow still drives me nuts even though I know it's coming

This makes it so much worse honestly. On the Angels, not you. Word was that Ray wasn't going to sign, but Mariners pushed hard for him and so he signed. That deal was not crazy money and if that was their guy they should have done whatever it takes to get him. This just goes to show "they" aren't actually willing to pay for the "right guy". 

I think this offseason is just gonna be Dipoto and Eppler teabagging Arte at every turn.

This one came from a high Angels executive. So as sure as he was about Ray, I was comfortable sharing the info with you all. 
Oh well. I'll just PM a few of our longtime members the next time I get some info rather than posting it publicly. Sorry it didn't happen guys. I'm just as disappointed as you are. 

I had to post this. It's sad, but so true to witness.

Doesn't matter who the GM is. This team will suck until Arte sells. I've slowly but surely had my love for watching MLB fade away and I'm at the point where I'm likely to switch my favorite team. I'll give it the rest of the offseason, but honestly we've seen it all before. Angels are the biggest joke in baseball and I'm starting to agree they should trade Ohtani. If they really don't get a top tier pitcher, which at this point is just Stroman, they need to trade Ohtani (which I know they won't do because of marketing) because he'll just be wasting away here. 
I've always scoffed at people with the stances I've just taken above, but I'm done with it. Sick of constantly being let down by an owner who can't get out of his own way. Sick of spending time and money giving a shit about a team that doesn't give a shit about it's fans. 

Doesn't matter who the GM is. This team will suck until Arte sells. I've slowly but surely had my love for watching MLB fade away and I'm at the point where I'm likely to switch my favorite team. I'll give it the rest of the offseason, but honestly we've seen it all before. Angels are the biggest joke in baseball and I'm starting to agree they should trade Ohtani. If they really don't get a top tier pitcher, which at this point is just Stroman, they need to trade Ohtani (which I know they won't do because of marketing) because he'll just be wasting away here. 
I've always scoffed at people with the stances I've just taken above, but I'm done with it. Sick of constantly being let down by an owner who can't get out of his own way. Sick of spending time and money giving a shit about a team that doesn't give a shit about it's fans. 

Doesn't matter who the GM is. This team will suck until Arte sells. I've slowly but surely had my love for watching MLB fade away and I'm at the point where I'm likely to switch my favorite team. I'll give it the rest of the offseason, but honestly we've seen it all before. Angels are the biggest joke in baseball and I'm starting to agree they should trade Ohtani. If they really don't get a top tier pitcher, which at this point is just Stroman, they need to trade Ohtani (which I know they won't do because of marketing) because he'll just be wasting away here. 
I've always scoffed at people with the stances I've just taken above, but I'm done with it. Sick of constantly being let down by an owner who can't get out of his own way. Sick of spending time and money giving a shit about a team that doesn't give a shit about it's fans. 

I think it ends up being Syndergaard

It's almost like...something was preventing them from doing that here. 

I'll be happy if they get Stroman, but if they don't I'm done with the Angels until Arte is gone
 

I'll be happy if they get Stroman, but if they don't I'm done with the Angels until Arte is gone
 

I'll be happy if they get Stroman, but if they don't I'm done with the Angels until Arte is gone
 

Honestly though, that's how most of these things play out. When was the last time someone said, "hmm... Thought he would have signed for more" about a top tier pitcher. If you want one you need to overpay. 
I've been a little iffy on Scherzer because of his age, but if you were confident in him and he was your top target then you should absolutely overpay if it gets him to sign. 

I have to say, I never refer to him as Thor in person.  However, the temptation to call him Thor here over having to spell out his whole last name is pretty tempting.

I have to say, I never refer to him as Thor in person.  However, the temptation to call him Thor here over having to spell out his whole last name is pretty tempting.

I have to say, I never refer to him as Thor in person.  However, the temptation to call him Thor here over having to spell out his whole last name is pretty tempting.

I'm hoping that they are willing to go over this year. On a one year deal it means $50M is coming off the books between Syndergaard and Upton next year. They are going to need more than the $30M or so left to get another starter and still fill all their other needs.