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This is pretty rich coming from the guy who’s constantly crying about the way Blum does his

Jeff is on Twitter. He's probably used to that.

Ugh! No way perry spends 12m on Stephenson and not 12m on Martinez. He quite literally got bamboozled and he will make an excellent GM for another team.

Arte ain’t spending a penny

Spending your entire budget on the bullpen seems rather nonsensical to me.

Spending your entire budget on the bullpen seems rather nonsensical to me.

The draft pick/Opt out was at the root of the Snell thing.  As far as the others go, I agree they were about as cheap as we could expect and the reality that they didn't sign any of them is very telling.

I think it can be safely said there really isn’t one.

Yeah… Arte seems to be completely checked out. Just enjoying whatever checks he can still cash 

Then trade Ohtani
 
Dumbass not to do so 

I don't think it will happen with Montgomery but Martinez' value might drop to the point that, even if we prefer to rotate Trout, Rendon and others through the DH spot, you just can't not sign him. 🤷‍♂️

So, if Arte knew he wasn't going to re-sign Ohtani, then WTF did he not allow Perry to trade him?
 
Fucking Arte...

I don't think it will happen with Montgomery but Martinez' value might drop to the point that, even if we prefer to rotate Trout, Rendon and others through the DH spot, you just can't not sign him. 🤷‍♂️

Yeah, I bet they have a feeling he's out longer than the 1-2 months they originally came out with.

You would think so.   Saw a report that the Yankees are back in on Montgomery. The repercussions of Cole being out may be sinking in. 

I understand not getting Snell, passing on guys like Urshella, Lorenzen, etc have the possibility of exposing our lack of depth. 

That has always seemed pretty obvious….yet Arte screwed it up…

Signing Ohtani was probably never a good baseball decision for the Angels. Not trading him wasnt either.

Trevor Bauer and Shohei Ohtani are going to be teammates, in Japan. 

this story doesn't smell right

Bro, you could make a comment about liking McDonald's egg McMuffins and it will turn into some inane argument about Arte, Rendon, or some other Angels hot topic if for no other reason because the entire fan-base; die-hards and bandwagon types alike are frustrated with the team and looking to vent. People are antsy AF, and yet the fan-base has probably never been more united on a lot of things, mostly that things need change. 
You say Arte could have been a great owner had he hired a great GM ect.. That's part of the frustration, most everyone here either remembers when or lived through the era of Angels baseball were they were considered an elite team with one of the best front offices in baseball so the current shit show is even more annoying. I seriously have come to wonder if part of why Stoneman retired was due his having grown weary of Arte trying to interfere.  It's not like he wasn't out in front with his opinions in those days too, the dude loved Tejada, openly sang his praises to the point where the A's at one point had the Angels looked at for potential tampering charges. Most of MLB believed the Angels would be all over him and yet when they had the chance Stoneman said nope -- we have a couple guys we like.  
For whatever reasons, Stoneman managed to keep Arte in check...  it's been very different ever since.  IMO, Arte went off the rails the winter Reagins showed up late to the winter meetings.  It's been stupid ever since.
 

Yeah, that was IMO again Bill Stoneman.  Stoneman had to have been a difficult guy to bargain with, he essentially drew a line in the sand and wouldn't cross it.  I think his tendency to know when to say "no", is why Arte didn't try his usual BS on him.  
The thing that set Stoneman aside from the guys that followed him was his absolute commitment to the farm system. People forget or maybe just don't know how much money Stoneman dumped into the system -- he consistently spent first round money on guys taken in the middle of the draft and on draft and follow types. Mark Trumbo was taken in the 18th round because of signability concerns and a college commitment to USC. Nick Adenhart was taken in the 14th or 15th round after having been considered a potential 1-1 pick. Adenhart's selection raised eyebrows because he had gone down to Tommy John surgery in HS but Stoneman convinced the family that his best shot at making a full recovery was to have him be taken care of by the Angels medical staff.  Weaver, Adenhart, Trumbo were all taken in 2004.   
Stoneman swung and missed on other guys but at least they tried. Chris Davis, Buster Posey, Kyle Hendricks, Brian Matusz, Matt Harvey, Brandon Morrow, were all HS guys Stoneman attempted to throw money at, as were touted college FB guys Patrick White and Jake Locker. Some have attempted to lay the blame on Arte for not allowing him to offer more, but the reality is Stoneman was able to take more of those risks and offer more under Arte than he had at any point under Disney.
Stoneman is the single most impactful person in Angels history other than the guy that set out to get the radio rights to an expansion team and ended up a MLB owner.

If the report was accurate, the Yankees offered Snell 6/150 in January.....what are the odds that Blake Snell makes 150 million before he retires?  If the report was accurate, the Blue Jays offered Chapman 6/120 last year.  Same question.  Not Boras' best work for sure. He doesn't always read the market correctly.

Have a feeling we roll with this rotation.