EdmontonAngelsFan

If this ends up happening then it’s fucking retarded. Sure spend it all on the pen but don’t give out $33 million to one guy. Sign all the one year arms to move at the deadline. If Perry had a plan and then Arte pulled the rug out from him then Perry should resign. 

Hey Tennessee Angels Fans: I’m throwing an Angels Opening Day Watch Party at my house!
So far we have seven once California resident Angels fans now living in TN attending! Including once OC Register’s Senior Editor, Keith Sharon and his son!
From the website I’m stoked to finally meet @Make Angels Great Again who is attending as well. 
Smoked pulled pork, sides, appetizers, dessert & beer/booze on tap! 
DM if you’re interested in joining us!

I think we found Ippei's burner account...why else would anyone be bumping this thread back to the front page?

i wish we would have had at least one poster here who supported this idea and kept it fresh in minds multiple times each day.
oh, what might have been . . .

I don't think we talk enough about how good a signing Abreu was for the Angels.

Yeah, I bet they have a feeling he's out longer than the 1-2 months they originally came out with.

You would think so.   Saw a report that the Yankees are back in on Montgomery. The repercussions of Cole being out may be sinking in. 

Someone please do a welfare check on @Angels 1961.

I have it for you.  Here you go:

Yeah, that was IMO again Bill Stoneman.  Stoneman had to have been a difficult guy to bargain with, he essentially drew a line in the sand and wouldn't cross it.  I think his tendency to know when to say "no", is why Arte didn't try his usual BS on him.  
The thing that set Stoneman aside from the guys that followed him was his absolute commitment to the farm system. People forget or maybe just don't know how much money Stoneman dumped into the system -- he consistently spent first round money on guys taken in the middle of the draft and on draft and follow types. Mark Trumbo was taken in the 18th round because of signability concerns and a college commitment to USC. Nick Adenhart was taken in the 14th or 15th round after having been considered a potential 1-1 pick. Adenhart's selection raised eyebrows because he had gone down to Tommy John surgery in HS but Stoneman convinced the family that his best shot at making a full recovery was to have him be taken care of by the Angels medical staff.  Weaver, Adenhart, Trumbo were all taken in 2004.   
Stoneman swung and missed on other guys but at least they tried. Chris Davis, Buster Posey, Kyle Hendricks, Brian Matusz, Matt Harvey, Brandon Morrow, were all HS guys Stoneman attempted to throw money at, as were touted college FB guys Patrick White and Jake Locker. Some have attempted to lay the blame on Arte for not allowing him to offer more, but the reality is Stoneman was able to take more of those risks and offer more under Arte than he had at any point under Disney.
Stoneman is the single most impactful person in Angels history other than the guy that set out to get the radio rights to an expansion team and ended up a MLB owner.

I think the thing that bothers me the most is that we never know--and I mean never--what we're going to get. I truly thought Perry had a good offseason last year. Renfroe was a really solid slugger, Urshela was great depth, and Anderson just had a great year in 2022. He was allowed to navigate freely and did so with both trades and signings. This year, we had money to spend and holes to fill. And haven't at all, instead sitting $45 million under last year. But are we pushing hard to compete and win, or are we reloading and restocking the minors? There's just never any clarity. We have key guys on 1-year deals, 5 outfielders, the exact same rotation as last year, and didn't add a single hitter to our lineup. What's the plan? It seems like it's been this way mostly since 2016. Pitchers only to 1 year deals...just kidding Tyler Anderson, Iglesias, Aaron Loup, Tepera! Traded for Renfroe's contract, went all in at the deadline despite Trout and Rendon being hurt and a very unlikely chance at getting in. Not knowing what to expect is the most frustrating part. 
Even now. Trout and Washington have very clearly stated they want more guys. Perry too? Trout has been really, really vocal. JD Martinez apparently wants to be here. He has almost no other suitors. Why not sign him? Why not get another starter on a 1 year to have some depth, then possibly move someone at the deadline? It just doesn't ever follow any sort of pattern, and to be a fan with an owner like that makes it really hard when we are guessing all the time, and almost always end up doing a lot less than we hope for. 

I miss Bill Stoneman. 

Waiting for Heyman, I mean Boras, I mean Heyman to come out and announce what's next!

Waiting for Heyman, I mean Boras, I mean Heyman to come out and announce what's next!

Have a feeling we roll with this rotation. 

And Sosh.

I miss Bill Stoneman. 

I miss Bill Stoneman. 

I miss Bill Stoneman. 

Waiting for Heyman, I mean Boras, I mean Heyman to come out and announce what's next!

I miss Bill Stoneman. 

Waiting for Heyman, I mean Boras, I mean Heyman to come out and announce what's next!

I don't have any inside friends, but my suspicion is Arte has stepped in a few times. Pujols, Hamilton, Rendon, stopping  Rengifo to dodgers trade, and refusing to trade Ohtani would be some examples.
I asked because your language suggested Arte signed and drafted everyone. It sounds like you were more commenting on what the angels did under the ownership of Arte which makes sense.